RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.0.0c] [Chyos]

[storm1051787]

Dudes, honestly, I've had enough of these incest delusions of yours.

S T O P I T

you will never meet MC's mother, even if she were alive

Reason why you will never meet her: we have so many unfinished quests and unfinished storylines and unvisited places that we should wait for 10 years before Chyos properly introduced her (IF she were alive).

Wanna see a MC banging his mom? you have THOUSANDS of games with an incest tag. Go, grab them and stop quarrelling over something that's never gonna happen.

Moreover we have Kirlik, Parakis, Varron, their neighborhoods, there is an island in the south. Visiting all these places excites me much more than having sex with mother.

I personally think it's unlikely to happen due to patreon but it's not as far fetched as your making it out to be. They mentioned in Mira's storyline that we can find clues about the players mother in Kiliric, it's not like she's going to randomly pop up at the village one day. And the identify of the player's mother IS a storyline that we've had teased for years and had not done anything with. It's one the same level as the cult. It's fine if it's not something your interested in, but it's also not something that people on this forum just invented because they wanted to see it happen. It's legitimately something the Dev previously had plans for and hasn't done much with in the past few years. And it wouldn't take precedence over adding a new location. If they did add the players mom it would most likely be DURING the Kiliric update or sometime after that. We've repeatedly got new npcs when new locations were added to the game.

You seem knowledgeable on the subject so I would like to ask for your opinion. Hypothetically if the Chyos made a incest patch but, only housed and mentioned it on sites like this would that allow them to entertain their original vision for the game while not threatening their establishment on Patreon?

Note: I would like to mention that I'm not saying this is something that they should do. I only desire to discuss it's possibility and potential effects. Since I have seen other creators do something similar if not the same as I've mentioned with seemingly no adverse effects to their standing on Patreon.

Mira's letter is the incest patch. Changing the relationship actives the variables that allow for incest, that's why it's not just Mira and the Mc's relationship that changes when you turn it on, but it also changes the identity of Frisha's father so that she's Giron's bastard. I think the way it is now is fine, it's probably one of the few games on this site where the story still makes sense whether the incest is turned on or not. Making a patch is just extra steps and probably wouldn't effect how Chyos writes their story.

 

[Chii]

but it also changes the identity of Frisha's father so that she's Giron's bastard.

Do you have a source for this?
I've changed the letter in the past and I never once saw Emily saying anything else other than Frisha's being the daughter of a merchant. Nor Frisha changing her dialogue when talking about sex before marriage in her questline while talking to Giron's son.

 

[Chii]

Never mind, it's been mentioned a few times in this thread already.
That said it's still weird, and it doesn't really make nearly as much sense story wise considering Emily's attitude towards her daughters love interests.

 

[storm1051787]

Do you have a source for this?
I've changed the letter in the past and I never once saw Emily saying anything else other than Frisha's being the daughter of a merchant. Nor Frisha changing her dialogue when talking about sex before marriage in her questline while talking to Giron's son.

Emily, literally tells you herself at some point after you sleep with her. It also changes in the relationship so that Giron took her virginity instead of the merchant. I'm not going to go look through all my older saves to try to get it to trigger again but I can show you that the relationship changed. I'm pretty sure it's just random dialogue that can show up one night after you get far enough in Frisha's, Mira's and Emily's stories.


I just saw your reply as I'm trying this, but Emily says something about how she didn't approve of Frisha seeing Dave for that reason. I can't remember the exact dialogue but I think it was something along the lines of her being afraid to reveal the identity and hoping that Dave would dump her before it got that far. I don't get how it doesn't make much sense

 

[Chii]

Emily, literally tells you herself at some point after you sleep with her. It also changes in the relationship so that Giron took her virginity instead of the merchant. I'm not going to go look through all my older saves to try to get it to trigger again but I can show you that the relationship changed. I'm pretty sure it's just random dialogue that can show up one night after you get far enough in Frisha's, Mira's and Emily's stories.


I just saw your reply as I'm trying this, but Emily says something about how she didn't approve of Frisha seeing Dave for that reason. I can't remember the exact dialogue but I think it was something along the lines of her being afraid to reveal the identity and hoping that Dave would dump her before it got that far. I don't get how it doesn't make much sense

Thank you for the reply.
I should at some point explore Emily's darker route/past.

 

[The_Dark_Army]

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[packor]

seems neat. Where's the breast size changer?

 

[Mr. Jekyll/Hyde]

Moreover we have Kirlik, Parakis, Varron, their neighborhoods, there is an island in the south. Visiting all these places excites me much more than having sex with mother.

I think that visiting new locations would be quite intersting as well. Since it opens up new possibilities for events, characters, and obstacles/enemies.

 

[wizardcock]

I think that visiting new locations would be quite intersting as well. Since it opens up new possibilities for events, characters, and obstacles/enemies.

Yeah, the new locations and enemies are an important part of the game for me. I would also like to see more strong raid bosses that can be encountered once, but not as part of a quest but specifically when you're just exploring the area: like the green plague demon (the Ancient).

 

[Demon Jhim]

By water... everywhere

What do you you mean next to the river? I have not played this game since May. By the way it keeps saying MC constitution decrease I check talent and its still the same and no heal decrease.

 

[caju]

What do you you mean next to the river? I have not played this game since May. By the way it keeps saying MC constitution decrease I check talent and its still the same and no heal decrease.

East of town along the river.
Between town and bandit camp.
Pond North of hunting area.
River to the East of Rumah.
Mill area along the river.
Literally by all water...

Constitution decrease is because "well fed" perk disappeared and you lost that bonus.
You dont suffer a penalty, you lost a bonus.

 

[Ottoeight]

I think it should be done like this. She's the MC's mother no matter what. But in order to get any "content" with her you'll need to unlock it with some secret step or a patch.

I personally think it's unlikely to happen due to patreon but it's not as far fetched as your making it out to be.

It took him almost this whole 2024 to deliver 2 quests only: 0.5.8.0 (Kate & Claire visiting the Boar Inn) and 0.5.9.0 (Penny dealing with the Coldstones). Almost 1 year for 3 mere new locations: the Boar Inn + the mill + the Coldstones farm.

Just T H I N K A B O U T I T

So, it's not a question of Patreon and patches.

The point is that you will become an old grandpa before Mom (whoever she might be, if she's alive) enters the game.

 

[BGRW2020]

Will the walkthrough be updated?

 

[storm1051787]

It took him almost this whole 2024 to deliver 2 quests only: 0.5.8.0 (Kate & Claire visiting the Boar Inn) and 0.5.9.0 (Penny dealing with the Coldstones). Almost 1 year for 3 mere new locations: the Boar Inn + the mill + the Coldstones farm.

Just T H I N K A B O U T I T

So, it's not a question of Patreon and patches.

The point is that you will become an old grandpa before Mom (whoever she might be, if she's alive) enters the game.

You do realize that which quests get updated are based on what people voted for right? It very much is a question of Patreons because the Patreons are literally the ones who decide what's getting updated. Kiliric has been on the polls for a while and a lot of quests lead to there including answers about the mc's mom. And that's going to be a thing whether there is actual content with her or not. And yeah 1 year for 3 locations is actually quite a lot.

 

[harem.king]

The MC was a bum that can be Mira's half-brother, but by default they are not related.
His Mom could be alive, his default Dad is dead.

IIRC dad explicitly said in his letter that your mom died. which is why he took MC and escaped to a village in middle of nowhere.

Also, the "default" is just the bullshit censored for shitreon version that makes very little sense.

And also turns your dad from chad to cuck.
An odd cuck at that, as he didn't step in to acknowledge and raise his real biological daughter.
While at the same time raising you, who is not really his son. But actually the son of a woman he had an unrequited crush on.
Yea the censored plot makes little sense. you are obviously supposed to de-censor it.

I think they went about this censorship completely the wrong way.
Instead of toggling whether or not Marcus is your father.
It should have toggled whether or not Mira is his daughter.
Censored for shitreon version? some rando (or maybe one of the local bulls like Giron) is Mira's father.
Uncensored version? Marcus is Mira's father.

 

[tretch95]

You do realize that which quests get updated are based on what people voted for right?

The dev decides the options for the votes, though.

And these options are always: Another new side story, or addition / remake for an old story.

So it's exclusively him who keeps the story threading in a very small circle for so many years now.

 

[Matiur13]

IIRC dad explicitly said in his letter that your mom died. which is why he took MC and escaped to a village in middle of nowhere.

Marcus's letter:

The woman is probably dead. The question is why her family or herself was in danger. Politic reasons? Money?
At some point it should be discovered through some NPC or a document, even if noone blood related to the MC is alive.

 

[The Senior Perv]

Release 0.5.9.6 (Winterhowl Special 2024)

Good... uhm morning it is already.

So this is just in time for christmas!
In the end it wasn't possible without some crunch on the finishline, but it was definitly worth it! In the last hour I added another animation which I just HAD to add... totally worth sleeping one less hour for it. - In case you wonder, yes the title image has nothing to do with the current scene, that's from Athia's christmas special 2022.

Ok I'm not going to spoil anything about the scene other than you already know... Only that to start the little quest you must have had Sex with Helena and Yasmine then the quest should start when you are in Arenfield and it is either December ingame or December in Real life (so just now). The scene has a repeatable option, but it currently isn't available as a dream scene... I might add that in the future, but for now it isn't planned. Krampus now also has a new reward if you haven't slayn him this year already (If you did you must pass another ingame year to kill him again).

Here the links:

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As always: Old save files work as always. I've written a guide how you can transfer them. You can find it here: How to transfer saves

Should you run into any bugs, please report them via pm or by using the #bugreport channel on discord (Click + to create a new thread there) Thank you to anyone who takes the time to report bugs! All hotfixes will be listed below the links.

If there are bugs then I hope they aren't gamebreaking, after now working through Saturday and the whole day today I will take 3 days off for christmas to celebrate with my family.
But if you report any bugs until tomorrow morning (ETC) I will fix what ever bugs there are reported.

These last days were intense, but I wanted this scene done badly and now it's a huge relief to have acchieved that. So this is now my present to you for the holidays... I hope you like the new scene with Helena & Yasmine and there are no problems with it. I also want to thank you all at this point for your support through this year!
It had it's ups and downs and I hope we can now all have quiet, enjoyful days to relax.

That said, merry christmas/happy holidays to all of you!

 

[harem.king]

Marcus's letter:

The woman is probably dead. The question is why her family or herself was in danger. Politic reasons? Money?
At some point it should be discovered through some NPC or a document, even if noone blood related to the MC is alive.

Mom was a high ranking noblewoman.
Dad was ONE of her many guards.
Nobility always murder each other. its in the job description.

I mean, in this game there is a civil war between the two princes over the throne of the current nation.

 

[exazubi]

That is not so. You can attach in a variety of formats. I have uploaded pdf's and even a zip file.

Thank you. That's very good to know. I was probably not up to date. That makes it easier for me in the end. Not only can every PC read PDFs, my formatting is also preserved. That's really good, then the disaster with my german MOTH walkthrough on Steam won't repeat itself.

But before I look at it, I have to at least finish my outdated version of the game. And there is still so much to do!

But I'm going on. The game is just too good to stop