RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.0.5] [Chyos]

[Pa3uk]

I need advice - What is the best way to handle Liandra? The first option is to leave her in the camp, and the second option is to return her to the baron. It seems to me that it's BETTER to return her to the baron. Additionally, if you return her, she might change, and a scene with Yasmine may open up, and the baron will approve of the alliance with Julia.
But I'm interested in the storyline where all the girls are mine. That is, WITHOUT NTR...
I don't know what will happen if I choose the camp.
Please advise on the best course of action and what the consequences of these two choices will be.

 

[Balduko]

I need advice - What is the best way to handle Liandra? The first option is to leave her in the camp, and the second option is to return her to the baron. It seems to me that it's BETTER to return her to the baron. Additionally, if you return her, she might change, and a scene with Yasmine may open up, and the baron will approve of the alliance with Julia.
But I'm interested in the storyline where all the girls are mine. That is, WITHOUT NTR...
I don't know what will happen if I choose the camp.
Please advise on the best course of action and what the consequences of these two choices will be.

You can take the body changing potion and Yasmine to the camp too, you'll also have other options to to marry Julia later. You can dance with her on the camp, giving her to the baron is only the best option if you're interested in the ntr scenes.

 

[Sovereign]

I need advice - What is the best way to handle Liandra? The first option is to leave her in the camp, and the second option is to return her to the baron. It seems to me that it's BETTER to return her to the baron. Additionally, if you return her, she might change, and a scene with Yasmine may open up, and the baron will approve of the alliance with Julia.
But I'm interested in the storyline where all the girls are mine. That is, WITHOUT NTR...
I don't know what will happen if I choose the camp.
Please advise on the best course of action and what the consequences of these two choices will be.

Think camp+capture Raven is the way to go. She has no NTR potential at camp and you can also get the expansion potion by spamming the party event a few times (Tia naked+lifting Lyvia's skirt with Liandra there), then spying on Giron and stealing a potion from his cabinet (though I recommend not doing that, her thicc form isn't particularly appealing to me at least, if you want to avoid expanding her, you probably want to tell her she's fine as she is at the party). By capturing the raven the baron insists you marry Julia even if you didn't ask for her hand.

Edit: There's also no NTR from capturing the Raven

 

[Evangelion-01]

Think camp+capture Raven is the way to go. She has no NTR potential at camp and you can also get the expansion potion by spamming the party event a few times (Tia naked+lifting Lyvia's skirt with Liandra there), then spying on Giron and stealing a potion from his cabinet (though I recommend not doing that, her thicc form isn't particularly appealing to me at least, if you want to avoid expanding her, you probably want to tell her she's fine as she is at the party). By capturing the raven the baron insists you marry Julia even if you didn't ask for her hand.

Edit: There's also no NTR from capturing the Raven

Though you can also let the raven go and will have a third and final chance to marry Julia once her Update comes around... it will be more tedious but atleast Giron won't actually profit the most from this choice.
Chyos mentioned that if your service to the community and your fame to the people is high enough Giron will still want you to marry her in order to capitalize of your support by the masses

 

[Necromant]

Though you can also let the raven go and will have a third and final chance to marry Julia once her Update comes around... it will be more tedious but atleast Giron won't actually profit the most from this choice.
Chyos mentioned that if your service to the community and your fame to the people is high enough Giron will still want you to marry her in order to capitalize of your support by the masses

Chyos mention another method one that involves taking girons title with the help of the raven without capturing him, but of course we have to wait for that update.

 

[Neon21312311]

I need advice - What is the best way to handle Liandra? The first option is to leave her in the camp, and the second option is to return her to the baron. It seems to me that it's BETTER to return her to the baron. Additionally, if you return her, she might change, and a scene with Yasmine may open up, and the baron will approve of the alliance with Julia.
But I'm interested in the storyline where all the girls are mine. That is, WITHOUT NTR...
I don't know what will happen if I choose the camp.
Please advise on the best course of action and what the consequences of these two choices will be.

Let Raven go + bring Liandra to camp is the best in my opinion. Letting Raven go would most likely help you with his wife and Yasmine at some point (kinda weird but that's just how the game goes) especially if you're on the evil route. Judging by the way the story is going Giron and Dave would also most likely die or be overthrown at some point. Most likely while you're dealing with the Cult so Julia would still be a possibility. In the event that Giron somehow stays alive until the end, he's an extremely powerhungry bastard so with you're connection to the queen + you're own growing forces you'd still have a shot with Julia

 

[Sovereign]

Though you can also let the raven go and will have a third and final chance to marry Julia once her Update comes around... it will be more tedious but atleast Giron won't actually profit the most from this choice.
Chyos mentioned that if your service to the community and your fame to the people is high enough Giron will still want you to marry her in order to capitalize of your support by the masses

Well that's good to know, but the fact that Julia kinda' gets pawned off to you when you don't even want her is a plus to me.

 

[Sovereign]

Oh no. Seems I got a bug where, when trying to go on Kate's trip, instead of (presumably) starting a cutscene, it just woke me up at 7 AM, rest of the town kept sleeping as though the day didn't get changed (people went back to normal after visiting Giron). I searched and saw someone else had this issue before, but didn't see a fix anywhere...

The main issue being I can't start the trip at all now (by any means I can think of).

Edit: OK, seems the issue is easy enough to fix (using an rpgm save editor that can change switches and variables). If this is the issue you are having, then Kate Progress should be 41 in the bugged save. Change it to 40 (I also reduced Kate Love and Kate Corruption back to 40 since they jumped to 41 and neither of these variables should exceed progress). Then load up and, at midnight, you will be able to talk to Kate and Claire about leaving again. Maybe also don't skip dialogue until you're in the clear.

 

[Sovereign]

How to activate Verena dinner event? I talked to Roderic and he invited me to dinner. I see dinner table and Rick is sitting there at dinner time, but I can't activate anything....

It was either walking into the room on them at 6PM, or the seat next to Arianna was interactable. I don't remember which, but definitely that easy.

 

[Oscarsz]

sharing my save so i dont lose it, heavy NTR almost at end of quests

 

[th3n]

Hey, don't want to bother. This game used to be my favorite, the top 1 and i loved it a lot. But after some time it's just ntr after ntr. And i personally want to know, just so i can fuck off and move on from this game. What porcentaje of ntr is the game? I just want to know, like 50/50, the actual data. I just want to know to move on from this...

 

[Adrian24]

Imawyn - such a magical character, that she can have vaginal sex and remain a virgin... Seriously, it's a bug - forced vaginal sex cut scene in the main tent does not count towards her virginity.

 

[SporkWitch]

Hey, don't want to bother. This game used to be my favorite, the top 1 and i loved it a lot. But after some time it's just ntr after ntr. And i personally want to know, just so i can fuck off and move on from this game. What porcentaje of ntr is the game? I just want to know, like 50/50, the actual data. I just want to know to move on from this...

In my experience, it's fairly well mixed, and all avoidable even if you don't disable it with the setting... That said, due to the brutally slow pacing of updates (one of many reasons I don't do subscriptions for development; you can have my one time purchase), I usually only catch up after a year or so (think it's actually been 2 or 3 since I last played this one, until just this past week). If you're playing every update, I could understand the complaint if it's been a lot of NTR in a row on recent updates.

 

[randomv]

Hey, don't want to bother. This game used to be my favorite, the top 1 and i loved it a lot. But after some time it's just ntr after ntr. And i personally want to know, just so i can fuck off and move on from this game. What porcentaje of ntr is the game? I just want to know, like 50/50, the actual data. I just want to know to move on from this...

I'd guess about 20% of the games sex scenes are NTR, assuming you mean NTR as any scene not involving the MC. And that's probably overestimating it. You can shut NTR off completely before you start the game and it's easy to prevent even if you don't. Not sure why you would complain so much about it's presence given that context. Are you upset that the dev is devoting time to it?

 

[th3n]

I'd guess about 20% of the games sex scenes are NTR, assuming you mean NTR as any scene not involving the MC. And that's probably overestimating it. You can shut NTR off completely before you start the game and it's easy to prevent even if you don't. Not sure why you would complain so much about it's presence given that context. Are you upset that the dev is devoting time to it?

You don't have to lie to me that way men, it's a LOT more.

 

[randomv]

You don't have to lie to me that way men, it's a LOT more.

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[Evangelion-01]

You don't have to lie to me that way men, it's a LOT more.

50/50 is about right (though it used to be FAR less originally)... the Bonus scenes always caused a drastic increase in NTR while story Updates normally focused more on the love part.
Chyos recently (as in the past year) established a new policy limiting the Options for Bonus scenes equalizing Love route and NTR choices

 

[th3n]

50/50 is about right (though it used to be FAR less originally)... the Bonus scenes always caused a drastic increase in NTR while story Updates normally focused more on the love part.
Chyos recently (as in the past year) established a new policy limiting the Options for Bonus scenes equalizing Love route and NTR choices

Thanks, that's what i wanted to know. It's not the real percentage but knowing that information make me fell better about dropping this game (that i used to like so much). I'm not going to bother more with this. A lot of thanks for the people that answered my question. Good luck you all!

 

[randomv]

50/50 is about right (though it used to be FAR less originally)... the Bonus scenes always caused a drastic increase in NTR while story Updates normally focused more on the love part.
Chyos recently (as in the past year) established a new policy limiting the Options for Bonus scenes equalizing Love route and NTR choices

Half of the scenes are NTR? The guide and changelog make it seem like a lot less.

 

[Pa3uk]

By the way, regarding the capture of the leader of the Ravens, it seemed to me that it would be better to let him go. As I understand it, his partner approves of this action and it is likely to lead to scenes with her + Boron's wife will approve of this action... But as I understand it, if he is NOT caught, there will be no wedding (approval)... a difficult choice.
Just as difficult as choosing the Church plot branch (murder) and how best to proceed so that the ALL CHURCH WOMAN belongs only to the hero + keeping the Succubus, but as I understand it, a choice needs to be made. If you keep the succubus (even if you corrupted everyone UP TO the last moment), the demon will possess and this can lead to NTR scenes... (but maybe I'm wrong)...