homarkc

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For the new item "Claw of the black foot rabbit" from the nightmare rabbit, I noticed that you will get the item directly after the battle if Bianca is not in the team, but if she is in the team, you can only get this item by Bianca's pickpocket during the battle (I've tried replaying this many times, if you don't steal it during the battle, you will just get a message that you got an interesting trinket, but nothing actually being added to your inventory). Is that intended?
 

Messerah

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A couple of questions. I briefly glanced at the guide to love routes. Many require a lot of effort and money. Which love routes are worth the investment in terms of material profit (money, housework, resources, unique items, etc.?). And the second question. Pregnancy. Is it possible to send children to work, collect resources, etc. Is there any benefit?
 
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hiroyto

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Any way to progress Gwen's questline or story without boning her? Just found this game and enjoying it a lot but not really interested in being Gwen's plaything.
You can refuse to do her biding and work with Athia to come back at her, but not implemented yet.
But you do need to fuck her sometimes to give her a new form
 
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Pa3uk

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The game increasingly leans toward pushing players down the NTR path because, in reality, you’ll miss over 50% of the content otherwise—and the game doesn’t punish you for this choice. Meaning, everyone’s fine with it. The depraved village just turns into one big 'happy family' ^_^.

But if you play through the 'love' route—or as I call it, the 'ALL CHARACTERS BELONG ONLY TO ME' route—you run into a lot of 'problems' later on. Some seemingly minor decisions can have major consequences. For example, the fate of the queen’s daughter is unclear—what’s the best choice, and what happens to her?

Also, I still can’t figure out the correct sequence of events for the (SUCCUBUS) + CATHEDRAL storyline. Because if the MC sleeps with the Succubus, his girlfriend will start cheating on him. Plus, it’s unclear how to get ALL CHARACTERS for the MC in that same cathedral scene. It seems you have to sacrifice something, since the long-term consequences of bonding with the Succubus are unknown.

There’s also a long-standing rumor that if you perform the ritual successfully, the girlfriend might gain (POWERS—becoming a half-breed?), but even that part is unclear.

Long story short, the game heavily favors the NTR route, and it looks like that’s the better way to play (again -_-).
 

storm1051787

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A couple of questions. I briefly glanced at the guide to love routes. Many require a lot of effort and money. Which love routes are worth the investment in terms of material profit (money, housework, resources, unique items, etc.?). And the second question. Pregnancy. Is it possible to send children to work, collect resources, etc. Is there any benefit?

I can't really think of any love routes that requiremore effort or money than the corruption route. The vast majority of the time whether or not you started the love route or the corruption route just boils down to whether or not you used the cumwine to seduce them. It's not really any faster the game is just judging whether or not your affection level is high enough to move on or if your corruption level is high enough
The game increasingly leans toward pushing players down the NTR path because, in reality, you’ll miss over 50% of the content otherwise—and the game doesn’t punish you for this choice. Meaning, everyone’s fine with it. The depraved village just turns into one big 'happy family' ^_^.

But if you play through the 'love' route—or as I call it, the 'ALL CHARACTERS BELONG ONLY TO ME' route—you run into a lot of 'problems' later on. Some seemingly minor decisions can have major consequences. For example, the fate of the queen’s daughter is unclear—what’s the best choice, and what happens to her?

Also, I still can’t figure out the correct sequence of events for the (SUCCUBUS) + CATHEDRAL storyline. Because if the MC sleeps with the Succubus, his girlfriend will start cheating on him. Plus, it’s unclear how to get ALL CHARACTERS for the MC in that same cathedral scene. It seems you have to sacrifice something, since the long-term consequences of bonding with the Succubus are unknown.

There’s also a long-standing rumor that if you perform the ritual successfully, the girlfriend might gain (POWERS—becoming a half-breed?), but even that part is unclear.

Long story short, the game heavily favors the NTR route, and it looks like that’s the better way to play (again -_-).


Completely disagree there is no benifit to the ntr route on anything other than whether or not you like seeing other men sleep with the love interest. It doesn't effect any major part of any of their storyline. Even in the example you gave a lot of times the same thing happens regardless of whether you are in the ntr route or not. And in some cases you have actual less control over the story wth ntr vs ntr off like at he Rumah where the player doesn't really have control over much of anything with ntr on. V ntr off where you can choose whether or not to transform Umah or not amoung other things.


In most cases the ntr route is just clear hedonism and you're just basically telling the women to fuck anything that moves. Most of them clearly aren't ok with it at first either and you have to corrupt them far enough before they even consider sleeping with someone else or you have to piss them off in some way like having sex with the succubus in front of Mira. The ntr is by narrative unnatural because you're using Isha's curse to force the women into ntr for the sake of your own fetish. So no, the game does not really favor ntr and you pretty much have to push for ntr to happen.
 

Messerah

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I can't really think of any love routes that requiremore effort or money than the corruption route. The vast majority of the time whether or not you started the love route or the corruption route just boils down to whether or not you used the cumwine to seduce them. It's not really any faster the game is just judging whether or not your affection level is high enough to move on or if your corruption level is high enough




Completely disagree there is no benifit to the ntr route on anything other than whether or not you like seeing other men sleep with the love interest. It doesn't effect any major part of any of their storyline. Even in the example you gave a lot of times the same thing happens regardless of whether you are in the ntr route or not. And in some cases you have actual less control over the story wth ntr vs ntr off like at he Rumah where the player doesn't really have control over much of anything with ntr on. V ntr off where you can choose whether or not to transform Umah or not amoung other things.


In most cases the ntr route is just clear hedonism and you're just basically telling the women to fuck anything that moves. Most of them clearly aren't ok with it at first either and you have to corrupt them far enough before they even consider sleeping with someone else or you have to piss them off in some way like having sex with the succubus in front of Mira. The ntr is by narrative unnatural because you're using Isha's curse to force the women into ntr for the sake of your own fetish. So no, the game does not really favor ntr and you pretty much have to push for ntr to happen.
I don't quite agree. Many paths lead to ntr if the player does not invest his efforts and money. The same example with the stepmother. She is weak to protect herself from bandits and cannot pay taxes herself (except for the vagina) by honest work.
 
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I don't quite agree. Many paths lead to ntr if the player does not invest his efforts and money. The same example with the stepmother. She is weak to protect herself from bandits and cannot pay taxes herself (except for the vagina) by honest work.
The Stepmom doesn't have ntr scenes if you can't pay taxes unless you corrupted her a ton first otherwise she wouldnt even coonsider it. And with the Bandits the only way ntr happens is if you outright ignore Emily and don't bother to rescue her. But it's not even an ntr route. It's a single ntr scene. Emily doesn't really have an ntr route. You do the exact same thing to continue her story whether you are corrupting her or not


Most of the love route vs corruption route is exactly what I said, you just visit and spend time with them each day and whether or not you tart their corruption route is only based on whether or not you decided to give them cumwine. The vast majority of the love interest will not do ntr unless you've corrupted them enough
 

Mirso

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i just realized you can see your enemies weakness under their name....i know the first one is sword but what is the second one ?? iam also seeing other different icons like something yellow with thunder blot and purple with circle blade, what are them??
dagger
 

Mirso

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How often those he update the game? know there was a update some week ago, just finished that part, still missing the new city where every char wanna go
 

Pa3uk

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I may have expressed myself incorrectly. In short, I meant that there is no point in avoiding NTR content, because there is no serious nonlinearity as such. That's what I meant by (PUNISHING) the player, that he will lose his scenes, but there will be scenes with other people, in fact this is not so. So the characters do not react (against) the fact that they are in the NTR branch. The player will punish himself by not seeing the content.
The maximum CHOICE (which is not to say that it depends on NTR) that I have encountered in the game is :
1) the queen's daughter - tell her what is happening or not. 2) If Dazan remains the Chieftain of the tribe, he will simply choose for you so that the orc girl becomes more like a human. 3) Events in the cathedral and the succubus - and what to do with all the characters. 4) Will girls come to Thomas at night, 5) betray the witch or not and what will happen to the one who was summoned (will she be like a servant or like a normal person) , 6) Release the Raven or capture him and 7) WHERE is it better to bring the princess - to the baron or to your camp.
In fact, this is the maximum branching in the game, and all the other events do not affect the relationship with the hero in any way.
 

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I may have expressed myself incorrectly. In short, I meant that there is no point in avoiding NTR content
That's subjective. People have a variety of reasons for avoiding it.

because there is no serious nonlinearity as such.
What do you think "nonlinearity" is, and how does it relate to avoiding any content/kink in the game?

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bebe33 Multi-quote is always better than multi-post...
 

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Jeferss12

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I may have expressed myself incorrectly. In short, I meant that there is no point in avoiding NTR content, because there is no serious nonlinearity as such. That's what I meant by (PUNISHING) the player, that he will lose his scenes, but there will be scenes with other people, in fact this is not so. So the characters do not react (against) the fact that they are in the NTR branch. The player will punish himself by not seeing the content.
The maximum CHOICE (which is not to say that it depends on NTR) that I have encountered in the game is :
1) the queen's daughter - tell her what is happening or not. 2) If Dazan remains the Chieftain of the tribe, he will simply choose for you so that the orc girl becomes more like a human. 3) Events in the cathedral and the succubus - and what to do with all the characters. 4) Will girls come to Thomas at night, 5) betray the witch or not and what will happen to the one who was summoned (will she be like a servant or like a normal person) , 6) Release the Raven or capture him and 7) WHERE is it better to bring the princess - to the baron or to your camp.
In fact, this is the maximum branching in the game, and all the other events do not affect the relationship with the hero in any way.
I personally think that there really is a point in giving the player the option to evade the NTR, in any story there are always a character or characters that the player or reader would not like to see in certain scenes, so it is the developer working to give players the freedom to choose a linearity in the story that is more to their liking, now in this game what would really make players miss most of the content is evading the corruption of the characters, that is really what cannot be evaded in this game the corruption if or if you will need a certain degree of corruption to access most of the content, since the content that is obtained only through the affection is really little compared to everything that the game covers, as for the NTR it is more to the personal taste of each player if they enjoy seeing sex scenes in which a love interest of the protagonist or a character who has a romantic relationship with the deceived party, gets involved with someone else, or if they enjoy sex with multiple participants then It allows them the option of sharing the girls with other male characters, such as Kate with the MC's best friend, Bianca with the goblin who appears after completing the goblin trouble quest, or the girls in the mercenary camp with the MC's mercenaries, or the women in the Rumah village with the other male members of the tribe. This is optional if the chief is the leader, but mandatory if Dazan is the leader.

So, it really is a fundamental point to avoid certain routes in order to give each of the characters a proper and logical ending.

What I do think the developer should change are the dialogues in swinging, when the MC allows the girls to have sex with other men besides him, since from the dialogues it really appears that the girls are cheating on him with others, as is the case of Mira when you are in the route where you have a romantic relationship with her, and she sees you having sex with Heater and after that she asks you if it would be okay for her to have sex with other men without any commitment, in the dialogues that she has with Adalain, it is mentioned how the two are in love and supposedly have planned to get married all this while having sex, which is not logical given that the MC allowed her to have sex without any commitment, so an adjustment for the dialogues in that route would be convenient to avoid confusion and make it agree with what would be Sharing and not NTR
 
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Pa3uk

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Possibly found a bug that allows you to pump up your hacking skills+dex practically standing still at the start of the game. As soon as you get the Lockpick , you need to open INN, basically it's all. Repeat until you get bored or until the skill is upgraded. Regardless of 0 energy, the hero will continue to do this, and to all other doors he will say - I'm tired. ^_^
Although apparently karma punished me for this method and when I decided to CHECK and hack Emily's house at night, but as soon as I appeared on the threshold, I caught SOFTLOCK and could not move and the game menu did not respond The hero just got stuck, it's also funny that I turned off Autosave, because of which I threw away +- an hour of life ^_^
 
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Long story short, the game heavily favors the NTR route, and it looks like that’s the better way to play (again -_-).
No it doesn't, in fact the NTR doesn't even make sense for most characters.

Except for TIA and orcs (if you keep losing to them like a loser) and the goblins that apparently have some kind of aphrodisiac magic to them, the other NTR characters are just there for the sake of ntr patrons and the situations are entirely contrived. There is no reason why any LI would prefer them over the MC who is much better in bed and has a bigger dick.

The player will punish himself by not seeing the content.
For most people the punishment would be to see the MC as a cuck.
It depends on if you enjoy cuck content or not.
 

Nihlos

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Nope. Her only way to transform is sex, and without her transformation there is no way to learn dark magic.
At some point there will be possible Sabrina futa content and you can get some rest if you choose it.
Got it, thanks. Unfortunate but understandable from a story perspective. May just avoid it for now. Plenty of other great content in the game.
 

Pa3uk

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No it doesn't, in fact the NTR doesn't even make sense for most characters.
Well, that's more or less what I was talking about, in fact, the NTR tag doesn't work in the game because if you're picky, it means when your other half is fucked WITHOUT your knowledge, i.e. you shouldn't know about it, and the fact that the hero watches or knows is already a cuckold, and such a one can even (passively) participate. And in the game, these tags don't work because there are no people CLOSE to the main character, well, yes, Tia becomes (supposedly a wife), but she doesn't voluntarily cheat on the hero so that he doesn't find out, the same applies to Emily(who we learn is a nobody to the hero, because the FATHER killed at the beginning is not his biological father and therefore she is a stranger to him), even taking into account that we marry her, the hero can still find out that she goes to the baron. So. the use of these tags is still in question and that's why I called the walkthrough a) Love line, when I tried to persuade ALL the characters to be as close as possible to the hero, b) Cupid line, this is when everyone knows about each other and consciously fucks everything that moves (here they call it NTR, although I don't agree with this).
The maximum that is in the game and this needs to be taken into account is BRANCHES in the plot, which (for now) are not entirely clear what they can lead to and I have already voiced some of them.
If I repeat quickly, then:
1) our main quest is to REVENGE (i.e. KILL Gurtak), but we can not kill, but enslave - with a spell and therefore the quest will not be complete, but the ORC can become a leader.
2) What to do with the queen's daughter (let her eavesdrop on the conversation or not).
3) What to do with the princess who was kidnapped (take her to the baron or to the camp).
4) What to do with the RAVEN (let him go or take him prisoner).
5) What to do with the CUP (drink it, do not touch it or bring it).
6) Agree with the succubus and corrupt the cathedral or not...
7) Interfere in Ophilia's conversations or leave her alone.
8) Be faithful to the Witch or betray her.
9) The best outcome with Penny's sister.
10) The best outcome with Anya and the resistance.
11) Who will become the leader of the village and if NOT to kill Dazan and let him escape...
In fact, these are all the moments (at the moment) that raise questions because the moments are not obvious. And everything else is absolutely unimportant.
 
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