Overlord070

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Got it, thanks. Unfortunate but understandable from a story perspective. May just avoid it for now. Plenty of other great content in the game.
She's tied to a few other characters and plot points, I'd advise just spamming sex with her and pressing the pagedown button (massively speeds up dialogue) and getting it over with until she transforms.

Then later on there is a route to "conspire" against her by siding with Athia (this route is only at the begining for now).

Well, that's more or less what I was talking about, in fact, the NTR tag doesn't work in the game because if you're picky, it means when your other half is fucked WITHOUT your knowledge, i.e. you shouldn't know about it, and the fact that the hero watches or knows is already a cuckold, and such a one can even (passively) participate. And in the game, these tags don't work because there are no people CLOSE to the main character, well, yes, Tia becomes (supposedly a wife), but she doesn't voluntarily cheat on the hero so that he doesn't find out, the same applies to Emily(who we learn is a nobody to the hero, because the FATHER killed at the beginning is not his biological father and therefore she is a stranger to him), even taking into account that we marry her, the hero can still find out that she goes to the baron. So. the use of these tags is still in question and that's why I called the walkthrough a) Love line, when I tried to persuade ALL the characters to be as close as possible to the hero, b) Cupid line, this is when everyone knows about each other and consciously fucks everything that moves (here they call it NTR, although I don't agree with this).
Yeah it's being a cuck and until they rework the tags (sometime never) that is the NTR tag.
On this website, NTR tag = Netorare [Designed to cause jealousy by having the romantic interest involved with someone other than the MC.]
 

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Well, that's more or less what I was talking about, in fact, the NTR tag doesn't work in the game because if you're picky, it means when your other half is fucked WITHOUT your knowledge, i.e. you shouldn't know about it, and the fact that the hero watches or knows is already a cuckold, and such a one can even (passively) participate. And in the game, these tags don't work because there are no people CLOSE to the main character, well, yes, Tia becomes (supposedly a wife), but she doesn't voluntarily cheat on the hero so that he doesn't find out, the same applies to Emily(who we learn is a nobody to the hero, because the FATHER killed at the beginning is not his biological father and therefore she is a stranger to him), even taking into account that we marry her, the hero can still find out that she goes to the baron. So. the use of these tags is still in question and that's why I called the walkthrough a) Love line, when I tried to persuade ALL the characters to be as close as possible to the hero, b) Cupid line, this is when everyone knows about each other and consciously fucks everything that moves (here they call it NTR, although I don't agree with this).

Ntr just means other men have sex with your love interests. It doesn't matter if the mc is into it or of they only did it because the mc told them too. The problem is really with you saying the game favors ntr more than vanilla. There are a lot of ntr scenes sure, but the vast majority you have to pretty much force it to happen with no real reward or benefit to doing so. Like there is no benefit to starting the ntr for anyone in Rumah or for starting Mira's ntr. It exists solely for people who like that fetish
 

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1) our main quest is to REVENGE (i.e. KILL Gurtak), but we can not kill, but enslave - with a spell and therefore the quest will not be complete, but the ORC can become a leader.
2) What to do with the queen's daughter (let her eavesdrop on the conversation or not).
3) What to do with the princess who was kidnapped (take her to the baron or to the camp).
4) What to do with the RAVEN (let him go or take him prisoner).
5) What to do with the CUP (drink it, do not touch it or bring it).
6) Agree with the succubus and corrupt the cathedral or not...
7) Interfere in Ophilia's conversations or leave her alone.
8) Be loyal to Velma or betray her.
9) The best outcome with Penny's sister.
10) The best outcome with Anya and the resistance.
11) Who will become the leader of the village and if NOT to kill Dazan and let him escape...
In fact, these are all the moments (at the moment) that raise questions because the moments are not obvious. And everything else is absolutely unimportant.
Doesn't this go against your own view that the game is for ntr route? None of the options you mentioned require ntr.

Also we CAN kill gurtak and no clue who velma is I'm guessing you gave an LI a custom name.
 
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If I repeat quickly, then:
1) our main quest is to REVENGE (i.e. KILL Gurtak), but we can not kill, but enslave - with a spell and therefore the quest will not be complete, but the ORC can become a leader.
2) What to do with the queen's daughter (let her eavesdrop on the conversation or not).
3) What to do with the princess who was kidnapped (take her to the baron or to the camp).
4) What to do with the RAVEN (let him go or take him prisoner).
5) What to do with the CUP (drink it, do not touch it or bring it).
6) Agree with the succubus and corrupt the cathedral or not...
7) Interfere in Ophilia's conversations or leave her alone.
8) Be faithful to the Witch or betray her.
9) The best outcome with Penny's sister.
10) The best outcome with Anya and the resistance.
11) Who will become the leader of the village and if NOT to kill Dazan and let him escape...
In fact, these are all the moments (at the moment) that raise questions because the moments are not obvious. And everything else is absolutely unimportant.

Most of these don't even have anything to do with ntr and the ones that are don't really provide much benifit to actually agreeing to ntr. Letting Dasan become chief is 100% the worse option from a practical standpoint as it actively gives the mc less interest and less options for how to handle certain situations. Like with Umah you get to make the decision on what to do with her if you're chief, if your not Dasan makes it for you. But other stuff like siding with Isha or not isn't about ntr, it's just about the players morality and siding with Isha is the evil choice
 
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I have a questions:

When the MC gets acquainted with Melissa she mentions a popular girl from the Kirlic's University. Could this person be Coldstone's daugther?
 

al.shm

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its just confuse me more the choice paths are way to lot and with diffrent outcomes dev is so fucking talented its very rare in type of games
 

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its just confuse me more the choice paths are way to lot and with diffrent outcomes dev is so fucking talented its very rare in type of games
Yea, that's what makes this game special. Also, the dev pays attention to little details. Like MC making his house bigger, Rick will come over and ask if MC is settling down to start a family. If you haven't done Arianna Quest to the point that she is no longer grounded, he will assume it's Mira that MC is settling down with. If you done Arianna Quest to the point that she is no longer grounded, Rick will assume that MC is settling down with Arianna, and you get a little funny dialogue in exchange. It's nothing important but little details like this makes a difference for playing and enjoying.
 
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Yea, that's what makes this game special. Also, the dev pays attention to little details. Like MC making his house bigger, Rick will come over and ask if MC is settling down to start a family. If you haven't done Arianna Quest to the point that she is no longer grounded, he will assume it's Mira that MC is settling down with. If you done Arianna Quest to the point that she is no longer grounded, Rick will assume that MC is settling down with Arianna, and you get a little funny dialogue in exchange. It's nothing important but little details like this makes a difference for playing and enjoying.
Thats why i try use walkthrough to not screw the choices :LOL:
 

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A small question. I have pumped up the minimum necessary skills with quests, etc. Theft remains. But as I understand it, Bianca will help. So I still have a lot of skill points left and as I understand it, in the future they will only grow with level, etc. What is better to focus on and pump up to the maximum? I saved Sabrina, I will soon learn magic. How strong is magic, compared to weapons? Does it make sense to pump up intelligence to the maximum? Or dexerity better? Or other?
 
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