RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.0.5d] [Chyos]

[Ottoeight]

Dudes, honestly, I've had enough of these incest delusions of yours.

S T O P I T

you will never meet MC's mother, even if she were alive

Reason why you will never meet her: we have so many unfinished quests and unfinished storylines and unvisited places that we should wait for 10 years before Chyos properly introduced her (IF she were alive).

Wanna see a MC banging his mom? you have THOUSANDS of games with an incest tag. Go, grab them and stop quarrelling over something that's never gonna happen.

 

[Webleten]

I think it should be done like this. She's the MC's mother no matter what. But in order to get any "content" with her you'll need to unlock it with some secret step or a patch.

 

[ximon]

good

 

[wizardcock]

Dudes, honestly, I've had enough of these incest delusions of yours.

S T O P I T

you will never meet MC's mother, even if she were alive

Reason why you will never meet her: we have so many unfinished quests and unfinished storylines and unvisited places that we should wait for 10 years before Chyos properly introduced her (IF she were alive).

Wanna see a MC banging his mom? you have THOUSANDS of games with an incest tag. Go, grab them and stop quarrelling over something that's never gonna happen.

Moreover we have Kirlik, Parakis, Varron, their neighborhoods, there is an island in the south. Visiting all these places excites me much more than having sex with mother.

 

[Chii]

Does anyone know by heart (or perhaps it's been compiled somewhere) all of the December related "easter eggs"/changes that can be found throughout the game?
Things like the special tree near Corven's tent, katie's special costume or Emily's house decorations.

 

[Apartment817]

Does anyone know by heart (or perhaps it's been compiled somewhere) all of the December related "easter eggs"/changes that can be found throughout the game?
Things like the special tree near Corven's tent, katie's special costume or Emily's house decorations.

There is a major one in Rumah, probably the lengthiest to date. You get it from Nyra, I think she has to be your wanita.

There are two tree things, one is getting a tree for your house, once you place it Athia will ask for money to decorate. I think that tree is pretty close to Corven, but I am guessing the tree you mentioned is the one that brings out Krampus if you cut it down.

I think patrons have access, or are just about to get access to a new winterhowl scene.

 

[storm1051787]

Dudes, honestly, I've had enough of these incest delusions of yours.

S T O P I T

you will never meet MC's mother, even if she were alive

Reason why you will never meet her: we have so many unfinished quests and unfinished storylines and unvisited places that we should wait for 10 years before Chyos properly introduced her (IF she were alive).

Wanna see a MC banging his mom? you have THOUSANDS of games with an incest tag. Go, grab them and stop quarrelling over something that's never gonna happen.

Moreover we have Kirlik, Parakis, Varron, their neighborhoods, there is an island in the south. Visiting all these places excites me much more than having sex with mother.

I personally think it's unlikely to happen due to patreon but it's not as far fetched as your making it out to be. They mentioned in Mira's storyline that we can find clues about the players mother in Kiliric, it's not like she's going to randomly pop up at the village one day. And the identify of the player's mother IS a storyline that we've had teased for years and had not done anything with. It's one the same level as the cult. It's fine if it's not something your interested in, but it's also not something that people on this forum just invented because they wanted to see it happen. It's legitimately something the Dev previously had plans for and hasn't done much with in the past few years. And it wouldn't take precedence over adding a new location. If they did add the players mom it would most likely be DURING the Kiliric update or sometime after that. We've repeatedly got new npcs when new locations were added to the game.

You seem knowledgeable on the subject so I would like to ask for your opinion. Hypothetically if the Chyos made a incest patch but, only housed and mentioned it on sites like this would that allow them to entertain their original vision for the game while not threatening their establishment on Patreon?

Note: I would like to mention that I'm not saying this is something that they should do. I only desire to discuss it's possibility and potential effects. Since I have seen other creators do something similar if not the same as I've mentioned with seemingly no adverse effects to their standing on Patreon.

Mira's letter is the incest patch. Changing the relationship actives the variables that allow for incest, that's why it's not just Mira and the Mc's relationship that changes when you turn it on, but it also changes the identity of Frisha's father so that she's Giron's bastard. I think the way it is now is fine, it's probably one of the few games on this site where the story still makes sense whether the incest is turned on or not. Making a patch is just extra steps and probably wouldn't effect how Chyos writes their story.

 

[Chii]

but it also changes the identity of Frisha's father so that she's Giron's bastard.

Do you have a source for this?
I've changed the letter in the past and I never once saw Emily saying anything else other than Frisha's being the daughter of a merchant. Nor Frisha changing her dialogue when talking about sex before marriage in her questline while talking to Giron's son.

 

[Chii]

Never mind, it's been mentioned a few times in this thread already.
That said it's still weird, and it doesn't really make nearly as much sense story wise considering Emily's attitude towards her daughters love interests.

 

[storm1051787]

Do you have a source for this?
I've changed the letter in the past and I never once saw Emily saying anything else other than Frisha's being the daughter of a merchant. Nor Frisha changing her dialogue when talking about sex before marriage in her questline while talking to Giron's son.

Emily, literally tells you herself at some point after you sleep with her. It also changes in the relationship so that Giron took her virginity instead of the merchant. I'm not going to go look through all my older saves to try to get it to trigger again but I can show you that the relationship changed. I'm pretty sure it's just random dialogue that can show up one night after you get far enough in Frisha's, Mira's and Emily's stories.


I just saw your reply as I'm trying this, but Emily says something about how she didn't approve of Frisha seeing Dave for that reason. I can't remember the exact dialogue but I think it was something along the lines of her being afraid to reveal the identity and hoping that Dave would dump her before it got that far. I don't get how it doesn't make much sense

 

[Chii]

Emily, literally tells you herself at some point after you sleep with her. It also changes in the relationship so that Giron took her virginity instead of the merchant. I'm not going to go look through all my older saves to try to get it to trigger again but I can show you that the relationship changed. I'm pretty sure it's just random dialogue that can show up one night after you get far enough in Frisha's, Mira's and Emily's stories.


I just saw your reply as I'm trying this, but Emily says something about how she didn't approve of Frisha seeing Dave for that reason. I can't remember the exact dialogue but I think it was something along the lines of her being afraid to reveal the identity and hoping that Dave would dump her before it got that far. I don't get how it doesn't make much sense

Thank you for the reply.
I should at some point explore Emily's darker route/past.

 

[packor]

seems neat. Where's the breast size changer?

 

[Mr. Jekyll/Hyde]

Moreover we have Kirlik, Parakis, Varron, their neighborhoods, there is an island in the south. Visiting all these places excites me much more than having sex with mother.

I think that visiting new locations would be quite intersting as well. Since it opens up new possibilities for events, characters, and obstacles/enemies.

 

[wizardcock]

I think that visiting new locations would be quite intersting as well. Since it opens up new possibilities for events, characters, and obstacles/enemies.

Yeah, the new locations and enemies are an important part of the game for me. I would also like to see more strong raid bosses that can be encountered once, but not as part of a quest but specifically when you're just exploring the area: like the green plague demon (the Ancient).

 

[Demon Jhim]

By water... everywhere

What do you you mean next to the river? I have not played this game since May. By the way it keeps saying MC constitution decrease I check talent and its still the same and no heal decrease.

 

[caju]

What do you you mean next to the river? I have not played this game since May. By the way it keeps saying MC constitution decrease I check talent and its still the same and no heal decrease.

East of town along the river.
Between town and bandit camp.
Pond North of hunting area.
River to the East of Rumah.
Mill area along the river.
Literally by all water...

Constitution decrease is because "well fed" perk disappeared and you lost that bonus.
You dont suffer a penalty, you lost a bonus.

 

[Ottoeight]

I think it should be done like this. She's the MC's mother no matter what. But in order to get any "content" with her you'll need to unlock it with some secret step or a patch.

I personally think it's unlikely to happen due to patreon but it's not as far fetched as your making it out to be.

It took him almost this whole 2024 to deliver 2 quests only: 0.5.8.0 (Kate & Claire visiting the Boar Inn) and 0.5.9.0 (Penny dealing with the Coldstones). Almost 1 year for 3 mere new locations: the Boar Inn + the mill + the Coldstones farm.

Just T H I N K A B O U T I T

So, it's not a question of Patreon and patches.

The point is that you will become an old grandpa before Mom (whoever she might be, if she's alive) enters the game.

 

[BGRW2020]

Will the walkthrough be updated?

 

[storm1051787]

It took him almost this whole 2024 to deliver 2 quests only: 0.5.8.0 (Kate & Claire visiting the Boar Inn) and 0.5.9.0 (Penny dealing with the Coldstones). Almost 1 year for 3 mere new locations: the Boar Inn + the mill + the Coldstones farm.

Just T H I N K A B O U T I T

So, it's not a question of Patreon and patches.

The point is that you will become an old grandpa before Mom (whoever she might be, if she's alive) enters the game.

You do realize that which quests get updated are based on what people voted for right? It very much is a question of Patreons because the Patreons are literally the ones who decide what's getting updated. Kiliric has been on the polls for a while and a lot of quests lead to there including answers about the mc's mom. And that's going to be a thing whether there is actual content with her or not. And yeah 1 year for 3 locations is actually quite a lot.

 

[harem.king]

The MC was a bum that can be Mira's half-brother, but by default they are not related.
His Mom could be alive, his default Dad is dead.

IIRC dad explicitly said in his letter that your mom died. which is why he took MC and escaped to a village in middle of nowhere.

Also, the "default" is just the bullshit censored for shitreon version that makes very little sense.

And also turns your dad from chad to cuck.
An odd cuck at that, as he didn't step in to acknowledge and raise his real biological daughter.
While at the same time raising you, who is not really his son. But actually the son of a woman he had an unrequited crush on.
Yea the censored plot makes little sense. you are obviously supposed to de-censor it.

I think they went about this censorship completely the wrong way.
Instead of toggling whether or not Marcus is your father.
It should have toggled whether or not Mira is his daughter.
Censored for shitreon version? some rando (or maybe one of the local bulls like Giron) is Mira's father.
Uncensored version? Marcus is Mira's father.