RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.6] [Chyos]

[Apartment817]

Explain to me one point related to the camp.
We can 1) Bribe the soldiers so that they work for us, 2) Persuade them, 3) Use MAGIC to enslave them.
I always thought that if we use (for example) magic, then regardless of the state of the camp, they will ALWAYS be loyal to the hero and will not leave, provided they have money - I thought that they will work as long as there is MONEY in the chest and if they run out, they will (for example) rape the Elf, if we tried to persuade them, then of course the morale drops and they will a) just leave, b) rape everyone who remained in the camp and leave. BUT none of the above happened, i.e. no matter which method you choose to recruit them, nothing happens. Did I understand correctly that this is not fully implemented and in fact there is no difference which option to choose?

I have never ran out of gold, so I have had them die on duty, but never leave.

Logistically speaking, I am not sure how rape would even occur. Like would you walk into camp, and they would be all raping away? You walk into camp and get an alert that it happened? Just be walking along out in the world and all of a sudden get the *meanwhile* cut scene? (Like you do with Emily being in the cave.)

It very well may be a real thing either implemented or intended to eventually be, but the logistics of it how it could happen have me doubtful.

 

[Monty10]

Is this game heavy NTR ?

 

[Monty10]

Yes, but it's all easily avoidable, can be turned off, and there is a lot of non ntr content. Ntr is this game is more of a punishment thing or something you have to pretty much force the LI to do and it takes a lot of effort for characters to do any actual ntr

So it's not focused NTR game?

 

[Apartment817]

So it's not focused NTR game?

I don't really play NTR, it's not my jam but I am not bugged by it. In various playthroughs of ASWS I have opened some paths, but I generally don't.


So if you are against NTR you can totally avoid it in ASWS.

But if it is your jam, strictly because of the amount of LI's in this game, there is a lot of NTR if you want there to be. For more detailed explanation of what's there, look at the online walkthrough, scroll to the NTR sections for Mira, Kate, Frisha, Penny, and Julia. There are a lot more than that, but that will give you a good sense of what is available.

So it is completely true that based on how you want to play, it can either by NTR heavy, or no NTR at all. Like Storm said, there is a option to turn it all off. And even if you leave it on (my playthroughs usually have the switch on, but no NTR paths explored), you have to actively choose to make the LI look elsewhere.

A couple of quick examples, after you have sex with the local baron's daughter, if you tell her that she is a bad fuck, she will go looking for a character that will give her practice. You can pimp out the local bar maids, (though I don't know if the second has scenes implemented yet), or you can force your childhood sweetheart to catch you fucking a girl in the next room, she will ask you if she can fuck around too, you can tell her yes or no. (Fucking her sister and mom doesn't make her want to fool around with the other guy though, just the one girl.)

 

[storm1105]

So it's not focused NTR game?

Um I'm not really sure if I'd say it is or not. The game is more of an rpg, characters have their own routes and how the ntr plays out for the characters is pretty different. Characters have a love route and a corruption route. For most of the characters the ntr basically you have to corrupt them enough for any ntr to happen in the first place, and a lot of the ntr is basically based on the mc intentionally making bad choices are willingly let other men sleep with the li. I know with character the mc's childhood friend her ntr only happens if you start a relationship with her then cheat on her right infront of her, her sister is also dating the Baron's son at the start of the game and at one point the Baron's son tries to rape her and the ntr will only happen if you just let it happen instead of coming to her rescue, which starts her love route.


Basically a lot of the ntr is essentially comes from the mc being a jerk and letting other men take advantage of them or doing something to upset the li, or pimping them out once they have high corruption. You pretty much have to force it to happen

 

[Monty10]

I don't really play NTR, it's not my jam but I am not bugged by it. In various playthroughs of ASWS I have opened some paths, but I generally don't.


So if you are against NTR you can totally avoid it in ASWS.

But if it is your jam, strictly because of the amount of LI's in this game, there is a lot of NTR if you want there to be. For more detailed explanation of what's there, look at the online walkthrough, scroll to the NTR sections for Mira, Kate, Frisha, Penny, and Julia. There are a lot more than that, but that will give you a good sense of what is available.

So it is completely true that based on how you want to play, it can either by NTR heavy, or no NTR at all. Like Storm said, there is a option to turn it all off. And even if you leave it on (my playthroughs usually have the switch on, but no NTR paths explored), you have to actively choose to make the LI look elsewhere.

A couple of quick examples, after you have sex with the local baron's daughter, if you tell her that she is a bad fuck, she will go looking for a character that will give her practice. You can pimp out the local bar maids, (though I don't know if the second has scenes implemented yet), or you can force your childhood sweetheart to catch you fucking a girl in the next room, she will ask you if she can fuck around too, you can tell her yes or no. (Fucking her sister and mom doesn't make her want to fool around with the other guy though, just the one girl.)

Thanks bro
The only thing i don't like in this game is RPGM not Ren'py

 

[storm1105]

Thanks bro
The only thing i dodn't like in this game is RPGM not Ren'py

The rpg aspect is probably the best thing about this game and would lose a lot in ren'py.

 

[Monty10]

The rpg aspect is probably the best thing about this game and would lose a lot in ren'py.

Because I do like to strict to the point not so much grinding

 

[Apartment817]

The rpg aspect is probably the best thing about this game and would lose a lot in ren'py.

Agreed, I am kind of the opposite of Ren'py over RPGM.

I like open ended stuff, I hate games on rails. Ren'py even when it is open, it is still just a series of flat screens, clicking one spot to get to another spot to click. I'd rather play with a controller any day.

 

[Apartment817]

Because I do like to strict to the point not so much grinding

There is a little battle grinding in ASWS, but most of it's grind is actually in building Affection / Corruption, which is the same kind of grind you would find in most Ren'py. And there is an in-game cheat book in ASWS that removes battle grinding if you choose.

 

[Lewdboyzzz]

Any compressed file for this new version ???

 

[Deleted member 6429793]

anyone has non-ntr save? i played the ntr version and im lazy to redo all the quest for the non ntr

 

[iamvqb]

Cant wait for the new update so i can start over. Reinstall windows since the last virus leak and lost the old saves.

 

[rennerd]

Did you get a black screen and had to restart your computer? if it is them maybe is the save file... man, what a shame, i will have to play it from zero again if save file corruption.

No, game just literally shut down. Didn't cause any issue with the computer. Sounds like a different issue then, sorry.

 

[rennerd]

The rpg aspect is probably the best thing about this game and would lose a lot in ren'py.

I think the rpgm mechanic is important. It really gives the feeling of the MC getting his crap together in a tangible way that Renpy would be hard to offer, though not impossible.

 

[XSelLint]

I think the rpgm mechanic is important. It really gives the feeling of the MC getting his crap together in a tangible way that Renpy would be hard to offer, though not impossible.

The real Ren'py advantage that it offers over RPGM is that the Player can Play the game with one hand just by holding a button skipping through dialogues/gameplay and Masturbate with the other hand without every needing to pull out vs RPGM which needs two hands to play the game.

 

[Apartment817]

The real Ren'py advantage that it offers over RPGM is that the Player can Play the game with one hand just by holding a button skipping through dialogues/gameplay and Masturbate with the other hand without every needing to pull out vs RPGM which needs two hands to play the game.

But then you end up just whirly past everything, I hate, hate dialogue and cut scenes, (even more so in AAA games), but you need some connection to the story. With Ren'py I end up fast forwarding all connections AND the actual sex scenes.

 

[harem.king]

Is this game heavy NTR ?

game is 50:50 NTR to not NTR.
you toggle it in setting.

The rpg aspect is probably the best thing about this game and would lose a lot in ren'py.

RPGM is trash. this game would be 10x better without it

 

[frostpaw]

game is 50:50 NTR to not NTR.
you toggle it in setting.

RPGM is trash. this game would be 10x better without it

I see this somewhat different than you.
1) The NTR-aspect isn't that easily described as you said. There are NTR-scenes for many different things and events, BUT: Many NTR-scenes get reused and recycled. They have the same animations for the same person. The vanilla ones with the MC get new animations and slightly different variations. Chyos said it was a ratio of 10:1. I just feels like there are more NTR-scenes, because they come from different events (but, as I said, use the same animations).

2) It's right, that often RPGM games feel like a huge waste-of-time and grinding. This is one of the only games, that has it's own graphics and is really well put together. So ASWS really delivers well with the engine. There is some grind, but it is used for creating an atmosphere. You often need to do some repetitive tasks, but you get new dialogs with the girls and you can feel progress. If you just play for the h-scenes, you won't get as much out of it.
And let's be honest, this game wouldn't work well with RenPy, because the graphics (and models) aren't the best as they come from VaM (Klub17).

 

[Pa3uk]

I think I found a bug:
It's related to the camp, or more precisely, Imawyn. During the party quest, she says -Why should I care.... The hero wants to raise her trust, but it's not possible, in the tent she says I want to sleep -_- . Maybe it's because I FAILED the Dismantle Bandit camp quest, i.e. Lyvia caught her, although my relationship with Imawyn is 10/10 and I don't know what to do. Maybe I should change the safe file so that the game considers this quest completed? Because otherwise I can't complete the party quest, I can't buy a lute and the guards' mood is always at its lowest...
Here is a save file for clarity, maybe someone understands and can help.