RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.0.7] [Chyos]

[Apartment817]

doesnt work either
tried to sell 1 each day / same day
tried selling all each day / same day

There are like three different chains of discussion that Dave and Giron have. (Frisha, Liandra and the Queen). Triggering the specific event with Frisha can be tricky.

Frisha just because she is just so damn thirsty (I actually name her Thirsty) is one of my favorite characters, and I still get hung up on the chain sometimes, especially if I don't target freeing her from Dave early on. (NTR doesn't bother me, I just prefer the loyalty to the MC.)

Anyways. When I am stuck somewhere in that chain unable to find the trigger, I listen in Giron's study from 9 am to Noon, every Wednesday, Thursday, Saturday and Sunday. (Being the days Frisha comes over, and the day after.) I focus on being at Dave's door after dinner every Wednesday and Saturday. I seem to have better luck having sold Lucien potions, but having switched the cumwine to regular wine in Dave's room. There are like three or four different discussions for both Dave + Frisha and Dave + Giron for you to eavesdrop before you get the option to intervene. The intervene happens after the time you interrupt by knocking over a vase in the hallway.


This is a great game but it is a maze of triggers, triggered by triggers. Sometimes it can be tricky to locate the trigger you are waiting for. Freeing Frisha from Dave and getting Penny to give up the V are the trickiest for me. Sometimes you just have to repeat the exact same actions a couple of times to get the outcome that is supposed to happen.

 

[packor]

I didn't really have a problem with it. No potion selling required. Biggest problem is probably figuring out the walkthrough more than it is figuring out the game. The very, Very first step is hiding at the dining room at dinner time(evening), after that you just have to listen at upstairs door(no more dinner required, but it happens After dinner time), and after That, ANY next day, hide in the hidden office space in the day time When Giron Is In The Office(just ignore the time, it can be day, afternoon, ANY time he is in the office and Dave is in His room). Conversation will trigger. Then you just repeat Door listening and Office a few times. The First time they talk about the wine, you probably have to go in DAVE's ROOM at night and check out the wine bottle, after that it probably doesn't matter.

I don't know, maybe there is some conflict with step 2 and 3 also if you're there, because I never even got to those steps yet.

 

[Pocisk204]

Can you say specifically which step in the walkthrough you are stuck at? You mentioned 14 and 15, but looking closer it sounds like you meant you are stuck at an earlier step. It would be helpful to know the correct number step you are stuck at.

using the web walktrough

So i got a save just after first time spying on dave and frisha in his room

i go unlock the hiding spot in bookshelf wait till noon spy on dave and giron and he gets the ''potion''
after that i leave it there let spy on dave and frisha again
again hide in bookshelf spy on giron and dave
then spy on frisha and dave and interrupt them no kissy kissy
after that in walktrough it says im sup to get a cutscene when entering the arenfield but i aint getting any + my quest book under ''J'' it still says i have to find a way to spy on dave and giron like it didnt trigger something to check that
idk what im sup to do
tried skipping cutsecene step and doing next but nothing realy happens

questlog doesnt go past step 10
but following walktrough i get to step 14 fine and step 15 doesnt trigger

 

[Pervy Sensei]

using the web walktrough

So i got a save just after first time spying on dave and frisha in his room

i go unlock the hiding spot in bookshelf wait till noon spy on dave and giron and he gets the ''potion''
after that i leave it there let spy on dave and frisha again
again hide in bookshelf spy on giron and dave
then spy on frisha and dave and interrupt them no kissy kissy
after that in walktrough it says im sup to get a cutscene when entering the arenfield but i aint getting any + my quest book under ''J'' it still says i have to find a way to spy on dave and giron like it didnt trigger something to check that
idk what im sup to do
tried skipping cutsecene step and doing next but nothing realy happens

questlog doesnt go past step 10
but following walktrough i get to step 14 fine and step 15 doesnt trigger

Very strange, especially that the quest log hasn't moved on. Are you using some kind of cheat mod or save editor?

 

[XSelLint]

using the web walktrough

So i got a save just after first time spying on dave and frisha in his room

i go unlock the hiding spot in bookshelf wait till noon spy on dave and giron and he gets the ''potion''
after that i leave it there let spy on dave and frisha again
again hide in bookshelf spy on giron and dave
then spy on frisha and dave and interrupt them no kissy kissy
after that in walktrough it says im sup to get a cutscene when entering the arenfield but i aint getting any + my quest book under ''J'' it still says i have to find a way to spy on dave and giron like it didnt trigger something to check that
idk what im sup to do
tried skipping cutsecene step and doing next but nothing realy happens

questlog doesnt go past step 10
but following walktrough i get to step 14 fine and step 15 doesnt trigger

Is Giron still in his room at noon?

 

[Pocisk204]

Very strange, especially that the quest log hasn't moved on. Are you using some kind of cheat mod or save editor?

i only use the ingame cheat but dont change the relations just lvls skills and items dont like farming to much

so i was playing with diffrent times and waiting on dinner and spying on frisha dave / dave giron
got to point where giron leaves his study at noon so i tried to spy on them earlier and that trigger a secene of them talking and being nobleman and trying to turn trisha in whore after that just spy on dave frisha and boom the quest finished and they nolonger dating so far atleast but still didnt get any cutscene for entering arenfield (is this cutscene meant as king coming over/queen later coming over?)

 

[Pocisk204]

Is Giron still in his room at noon?

no he wasnt i just figured that part out

 

[Jonson]

steps i did to frisha Quest no NTR Game v0.59.1
and works without trouble

1- First date Frisha and Dave i play = listen then after dinner in Dave room
2- Give 1 vial with my sperm to Lucius to part to quest " control your Lust"
3- Listen Giron and Dave and Giron give Dave the vial with my sperm for mix to wine
4- Listen Giron and Dave next day after Frisha Visit when Giron ask to Dave if the potion(Sperm)
works and Dave Mention he believed is works and ask if Lucius have more.
5- Listen Dave and Frisha again (sometimes need do 2x) if him try to kiss Frisha i Interrupt
6- Wait the king Show Up and Make Giron Baron
7- Listen Dave and Giron again and Giron mention to Dave to him make Frisha Concubine and have
another woman ( Liandra they no mention name but the history show that)
8- Listen Dave and Frisha in the first opportunity after the Dinner and kick he Ass and rescue Frisha.
9- Start corrupt and love point until fuck Her.

Maybe this can give Pocisk204 some light on the trouble.

 

[XSelLint]

no he wasnt i just figured that part out

He's at the Arenfield Church, go to Church and he will have a talk with Francis, then you can continue spying on Dave and Giron.

 

[Apartment817]

Very strange, especially that the quest log hasn't moved on. Are you using some kind of cheat mod or save editor?

My quest log always says " find a way to spy on dave and giron" for five or six steps of the process, pretty much from the very first time you listen and hear Giron give Dave the cumwine until I knock out Dave after the second post dinner interruption. Part of what makes the chain tricky is that it doesn't update after each needed step.

I mean I have done it 10+ times, but I am often being redundant because it's not clear what the next step is (go to Giron in the morning to noon, or Dave's door after dinner.)

It gets even more complicated if you got Henry going over to talk to Dave, and Dave and Giron talking about Henry.

 

[7empest5teele]

I need to try and recruit brigands.
How do I go about talking to them rather than insta killing them?
Maybe a method to nerf myself a few levels?

 

[Apartment817]

i only use the ingame cheat but dont change the relations just lvls skills and items dont like farming to much

so i was playing with diffrent times and waiting on dinner and spying on frisha dave / dave giron
got to point where giron leaves his study at noon so i tried to spy on them earlier and that trigger a secene of them talking and being nobleman and trying to turn trisha in whore after that just spy on dave frisha and boom the quest finished and they nolonger dating so far atleast but still didnt get any cutscene for entering arenfield (is this cutscene meant as king coming over/queen later coming over?)

It's the king one, it's pretty identical to the queen and Liandra's carriage, except that no carriage remains after it happens. It's just the King naming Giron as a baron which triggers his nobility needing Dave to marry nobility. So that in game Dave now knows there is no honest future with Frisha, she is just a side piece for him.

(Which means she is now free for the MC to make her a side piece. )

 

[Apartment817]

I need to try and recruit brigands.
How do I go about talking to them rather than insta killing them?
Maybe a method to nerf myself a few levels?

You have to defeat them first, then you can only recruit one post battle. There is no ability to recruit all three that you battle, just the one that survives after the battle. It's designed to only be able to pick up three to five every three days.

 

[7empest5teele]

You have to defeat them first, then you can only recruit one post battle. There is no ability to recruit all three that you battle, just the one that survives after the battle. It's designed to only be able to pick up three to five every three days.

I cannot even get into the battle screen, I always just wipe them outside combat, same with orcs and Boars.

 

[Apartment817]

I cannot even get into the battle screen, I always just wipe them outside combat, same with orcs and Boars.

Same here, click on the body after. I think it's the same way even if you get the battle. You'll get told one is alive and ask if you want to recruit. You have choices of how. Easy to miss if you didn't know that was the process.

 

[7empest5teele]

Same here, click on the body after. I think it's the same way even if you get the battle. You'll get told one is alive and ask if you want to recruit. You have choices of how. Easy to miss if you didn't know that was the process.

10 brigands later and I cannot click on the body, just 1000 XP and a trinket.

 

[packor]

steps i did to frisha Quest no NTR Game v0.59.1
and works without trouble

1- First date Frisha and Dave i play = listen then after dinner in Dave room
2- Give 1 vial with my sperm to Lucius to part to quest " control your Lust"
3- Listen Giron and Dave and Giron give Dave the vial with my sperm for mix to wine
4- Listen Giron and Dave next day after Frisha Visit when Giron ask to Dave if the potion(Sperm)
works and Dave Mention he believed is works and ask if Lucius have more.
5- Listen Dave and Frisha again (sometimes need do 2x) if him try to kiss Frisha i Interrupt
6- Wait the king Show Up and Make Giron Baron
7- Listen Dave and Giron again and Giron mention to Dave to him make Frisha Concubine and have
another woman ( Liandra they no mention name but the history show that)
8- Listen Dave and Frisha in the first opportunity after the Dinner and kick he Ass and rescue Frisha.
9- Start corrupt and love point until fuck Her.

Maybe this can give Pocisk204 some light on the trouble.

yep, it was number 6. There's no "16. Enter Arenfield in between 8:00-16:00 to see a cutscene", it didn't happen. It was just king showing up Later, but don't know When exactly that happens, but that it has to happen first.

 

[lenny007]

Can anyone please explain me, how save transition happens from old version to newer version. Because when I load older save and make a new save - it still writes that game-version is old. Does it mean that I wont see new content?

 

[Deleted member 8169219]

I personally decided not to press, decide for yourself

Yeah I left it too. I screwed up my save by overwriting it with a choice I wanted to be able to change so I got rid of the game. Will wait for more updates now to see if some of the content gets finished.

One major problem I have with the game is how too many requirements are mixed between characters. Staring one quest but then having to stop to do someone else's and stuff like that. I also hate how developing the home is attached to Emily's quest which involves getting a majority of her quest done first. I don't doubt at some point the dev will realise the current build is a structural mess and way to linear and so will probably need a complete rebuild, or he could just think fuck it and leave it as it is. I wouldn't normally criticise so much, but the game has so much potential. It already feels like a lot of effort has been put in, it just feels like a mess at the moment is all.

 

[Prayer2009]

Yeah I left it too. I screwed up my save by overwriting it with a choice I wanted to be able to change so I got rid of the game. Will wait for more updates now to see if some of the content gets finished.

One major problem I have with the game is how too many requirements are mixed between characters. Staring one quest but then having to stop to do someone else's and stuff like that. I also hate how developing the home is attached to Emily's quest which involves getting a majority of her quest done first. I don't doubt at some point the dev will realise the current build is a structural mess and way to linear and so will probably need a complete rebuild, or he could just think fuck it and leave it as it is. I wouldn't normally criticise so much, but the game has so much potential. It already feels like a lot of effort has been put in, it just feels like a mess at the moment is all.

I'm not 100% sure on this but I remember said Chyos said he made it where your able to do the developing of the home through penny's latest update, not sure how since I haven't had time to do a do over save.