RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.0.7] [Chyos]

[walkerjonny]

And here I just asked where the mine is located.

South from Arenfield

 

[Apartment817]

Indeed. But as I said, I put a lot of it down to it being a one man team or a very small team at most. When you're only going off your own input and then releasing it to the public, thats when you will start to get the 'why the hell is this tied to this or that?' comments. If I had any developer knowledge for this type of game where it's not purely about sex but an actual story/stories, then I would work towards getting the quests done and then once you have done all you can to help a character, thats when you can choose if you want a relationship with them.

But the MC house should have been the first thing you can do. Get tips of crafting from the smith and the furniture maker, then go about building your house. Then from there you work on individual character requests and then finally the romance stuff. For those that want the instant fuck stuff, just throw in a few prostitutes or something similar who aren't tied to quests and just throw in some sex scenes.

You start the game hungry, in debt, with no where to stay. It was how it was designed. Most games are like that. Take RDR2 for example. Your house in ASWS is a reward, designed to be a reward after you have built multiple relationships that benefit others. The cost of getting into your house is what it is. The cost to upgrade it is to upgrade Emily's first. The game was designed not to give you your own 3 star bed until you had satisfied Emily's needs. It's incremental. You work to get the place in Emily's storage, then into her bed, then into getting your own upgraded bed, with your own low quality bed somewhere in the middle.

You can not want to play that type of game, but Chyos deliberately designed house mechanic to be the way that it is. It wasn't an accident, or an oversight.

I am pretty surprised by your take on it. I can't think of any game where you can start working on your house right away. Peasant Quest is an example of a lewd game that doesn't. Breath of the Wild and Tears of The Kingdom are two that are the opposite of lewd that don't let you get a house until you have accomplished multiple unrelated quests.

 

[7empest5teele]

South from Arenfield

I have tried every south I can find in Arenfield including the windmill or granary area with the bandits, I still cannot find it.
Can you be more specific on where south please?

 

[Pocisk204]

been wondering is there a way to stop Mira from joining church?

and are there character that you can turn into ''slave'' and make money off it? pimp them out or something like that

 

[7empest5teele]

If you've hit the bandits you've gone to far. It's inbetween the village and that. You have to walk past the mine to get to the bandits

We might be thinking about different bandits then.
When I go south, by Anias' house, I get to the next area south, follow that river and you get to a mill of sorts, 4 bandits are sitting around a fire, 3 more inside the mill, and a scattered few around.
Thats South of Arenfield to me
EDIT: I was going south on the EAST side of the bridge that was my error, thank you very much for your help.

 

[7empest5teele]

How do I activate the tribute/ offering pedestals under the church.
There are statues beside them of different gods, needing different items, which I have, just cant seem to be able to place them on the offering plate/.
Edit, neither walkthrough I have found mentions HOW to place the items, just which items each god requires.

 

[FBRaW]

How do I activate the tribute pedestals under the church.
There are statues beside them of different gods, needing different items, which I have, just cant seem to be able to place them on the offering plate/.
Edit, neither walkthrough I have found mentions HOW to place the items, just which items each god requires.

It's outdated, but I think it's a useful guide for you..

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[7empest5teele]

It's outdated, but I think it's a useful guide for you..

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Now THAT is a fantastic walkthrough.
I always prefer seeing someone go through the steps so I can recreate them.
Alright to anyone needing to know THIS:
You have to click on the door with the 3 orbs on either side to ENABLE the MC to place the items required.
Thank you VERY much for this link, its extremely helpful, and one I will get to use in the future, which will stop me from posting shiit on here asking for help.

 

[FBRaW]

Now THAT is a fantastic walkthrough.
I always prefer seeing someone go through the steps so I can recreate them.
Alright to anyone needing to know THIS:
You have to click on the door with the 3 orbs on either side to ENABLE the MC to place the items required.
Thank you VERY much for this link, its extremely helpful, and one I will get to use in the future, which will stop me from posting shiit on here asking for help.

It happens that someone gets stuck in a game, you get stuck a little more often than others.
However, with half a minute of Google search you can find what you are currently lacking, + the webwalkthrough guides you through the game step by step. It also helps a lot if you read what and how the MC reacts in different situations. This is the BLUE text that you definitely have to read, it tells you what to do and when.

 

[Kvr64##]

Will version 6.00.be finish by the end of the moth, cause it seems he's doing holiday and bonus scenes from what he wrote in his recent post?

 

[Deleted member 8169219]

You start the game hungry, in debt, with no where to stay. It was how it was designed. Most games are like that. Take RDR2 for example. Your house in ASWS is a reward, designed to be a reward after you have built multiple relationships that benefit others. The cost of getting into your house is what it is. The cost to upgrade it is to upgrade Emily's first. The game was designed not to give you your own 3 star bed until you had satisfied Emily's needs. It's incremental. You work to get the place in Emily's storage, then into her bed, then into getting your own upgraded bed, with your own low quality bed somewhere in the middle.

You can not want to play that type of game, but Chyos deliberately designed house mechanic to be the way that it is. It wasn't an accident, or an oversight.

I am pretty surprised by your take on it. I can't think of any game where you can start working on your house right away. Peasant Quest is an example of a lewd game that doesn't. Breath of the Wild and Tears of The Kingdom are two that are the opposite of lewd that don't let you get a house until you have accomplished multiple unrelated quests.

Just because of lot games use the exact same method doesn't mean it's right. Just like many people can be wrong about something until someone points out the right way to them. It was a major reason I stopped playing the actual video games ages back due to how crap and samey they all were. So I don't understand why you're surprised by this.

 

[Deleted member 8169219]

basically, I guess you're asking for "sandbox", but this is a rpg. I don't believe it's supposed to be a sandbox.

No I wasn't. I was asking that things make sense.

And role playing has nothing to do with a structure system. This is something devs and gamers have gotten very wrong for a very long time.

 

[VirtualElf84]

-_- I swear no matter how many times I see "Penny wasn't able to fully pay her taxes, so she had to dip into her personal amount" it physically pains me, especially after already dropping over 300 into her chest! either way this is just a personal issue I keep having because it's easy asf for me to keep getting gold to donate, but I really do hope we can do something about the Mayor and his brat son soon! At the very least that'd at least make it a little bit less annoying.

 

[Budman 1959]

It should be on the walkthrough. You basically have to upgrade Emily's house first than upgrade your own house. Then you can deignate a room for athia and ask the carpenter to set things up for you

not there

 

[Budman 1959]

not there

now i have athia asking me to renovate house but how any idea chios

 

[Chii]

-_- I swear no matter how many times I see "Penny wasn't able to fully pay her taxes, so she had to dip into her personal amount" it physically pains me, especially after already dropping over 300 into her chest! either way this is just a personal issue I keep having because it's easy asf for me to keep getting gold to donate, but I really do hope we can do something about the Mayor and his brat son soon! At the very least that'd at least make it a little bit less annoying.

Have you increased all of the farm, chicken house, mill and continue giving her vegetables?
I'm pretty sure I was making a profit by the second month in game

 

[Chii]

Just because of lot games use the exact same method doesn't mean it's right. .

This is something devs and gamers have gotten very wrong for a very long time.

Rights and wrongs are relevant when you're discussing facts, not opinions. You liking/disliking something doesn't make it wrong or vice versa.
The dev envisioned a MC who gets the idea to renovate his house (which is a whim) after seeing that he was able to upgrade Emily's (which was a necessity). This is hardly the only situation, or even game where (sub-)quests are interlinked and based of of each other and I see nothing wrong with it.

 

[Apartment817]

Just because of lot games use the exact same method doesn't mean it's right. Just like many people can be wrong about something until someone points out the right way to them. It was a major reason I stopped playing the actual video games ages back due to how crap and samey they all were. So I don't understand why you're surprised by this.

You can't tell that you are wrong about this, even though it has been pointed out to you.

Look at the name of the game "a STRUGGLE with sin" Chyos doesn't want the player to have the benefits of a house without being heavily involved with both Emily and Mira. The MC has to chose between one or the other, or jump through more hoops to get involved with both. That entanglement happens through building Emily the orphanage. Getting involved with both is playing with the SIN aspect of it. You could complete remove any temptation of being entangled with Emily / Mira, Penny / Henry, or Kate / Claire if you could just concentrate on getting enough cash to get the keys to your house, then only have to worry about the coin needed for your house. Getting the need for the orphanage is related to the reward of having your own house.

You are literally crying about rewards in a game coming at a price. If you could just renovate your house right away, why even have to renovate it in the first place? Why not already have it with a good bed, bathroom, kitchen and maid quarters? Why stop there, why not just already have the Orphanage stocked with 20 beds from the very beginning?

You don't have to like the game, no one is saying that. But it is extremely laughable that you don't realize that it was thoroughly planned out. That it was just bad programmed without Chyos realizing at, but since you came along he will realize that error and fix it?

Have you played this game at all? Look at what it takes to get into Carmen's pants, or to complete the monastery, max out your Merc's, etc. This game is built on labyrinths of triggers that flip switches that are unrelated in the micro but fit together in the macro.

You don't have to like it, and you can keep not playing, this game is clearly not for you. But it really is wrong headed to think your complaints happened by accident. They are the game that Chyos is making. It is apparent in every aspect of the game. You can't get the mines open without having saved Emily from the bandits. You can't have sex with Verena without getting Corven a rabbit's foot. Hardly any reward happens without a whole bunch of unrelated things happening first.

 

[Apartment817]

-_- I swear no matter how many times I see "Penny wasn't able to fully pay her taxes, so she had to dip into her personal amount" it physically pains me, especially after already dropping over 300 into her chest! either way this is just a personal issue I keep having because it's easy asf for me to keep getting gold to donate, but I really do hope we can do something about the Mayor and his brat son soon! At the very least that'd at least make it a little bit less annoying.

Same for me, I have the chicken coop stocked. I keep her stocked in wheat, and she always has a full load of vegetables to take to Lucien, yet I still get that notice every other month or so... I ignore it, knowing her savings is full, but yet I feel that twinge as well.

 

[Ottoeight]

Same for me, I have the chicken coop stocked. I keep her stocked in wheat, and she always has a full load of vegetables to take to Lucien, yet I still get that notice every other month or so... I ignore it, knowing her savings is full, but yet I feel that twinge as well.

You have to sell eggs, bro. Every day.