RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.0.7a] [Chyos]

[zARRR]

However since patreons control the majority of the games direction

Yeah trust me I know

Its become a full second route but Chyos has still stated on the discord that he still intends for the NTR route in the game to end as a bad ending, there wont be a happy ever after on that route.

It is better like this, either failure equals hard punishment (and for those who don’t want it makes the gameplay more challenging) or deal with the devil.
It is pretty clear that Dasan’s reign or Dave’s winning won’t bring to a good ending where everyone is happy (except the bad guy).

From how Chyos is going with Melissa’s development, he is still following this path if design

 

[Velsomnia]

Yeah trust me I know

It is better like this, either failure equals hard punishment (and for those who don’t want it makes the gameplay more challenging) or deal with the devil.
It is pretty clear that Dasan’s reign or Dave’s winning won’t bring to a good ending where everyone is happy (except the bad guy).

From how Chyos is going with Melissa’s development, he is still following this path if design

Yeah ive been a patreon for over 3 years now and hes always stuck to the idea that while the route is fun and full of content its still a route which does not end well for the MC, hes never changed his stance on that.

 

[zARRR]

Yeah ive been a patreon for over 3 years now and hes always stuck to the idea that while the route is fun and full of content its still a route which does not end well for the MC, hes never changed his stance on that.

When he gets stubborn on something he rarely changes his mind, for the better or for the worse

 

[nieli]

Church Path or Syfa Path?

 

[zARRR]

Church Path or Syfa Path?

Frank path

 

[hoshimota]

Tho if MC accepts Thomas proposal can it be considered NTR anymore?
Is more like pimping/sharing if he actually agrees to let Kate be slowly molested.

So I am not really into NTR but this comes up a lot on the forum, my understanding is there are several different types of NTR with different names like neotarare, neotarase, etc. The one everyone always defaults to seems to be the maximum cuck variant, i.e. guy is harmed by woman's cheating actions, often either he is unaware and is a naive chump or it is blatantly happening and he is aware but is a little bitch about it and does not / cannot stop it. However there is another type where the guy is in on it or is even the one initiating it (such as, pimping out.)

Anyone feel free to correct me, not an area I am that well versed on.

 

[zARRR]

So I am not really into NTR but this comes up a lot on the forum, my understanding is there are several different types of NTR with different names like neotarare, neotarase, etc. The one everyone always defaults to seems to be the maximum cuck variant, i.e. guy is harmed by woman's cheating actions, often either he is unaware and is a naive chump or it is blatantly happening and he is aware but is a little bitch about it and does not / cannot stop it. However there is another type where the guy is in on it or is even the one initiating it (such as, pimping out.)

Anyone feel free to correct me, not an area I am that well versed on.

If you are new to the forum, prepare thyself to see the everlasting war of NTR vs Vanilla,
It’s the fundamental of F95 zone
Here is a little image that perfectly sums up the deal.
View attachment B260D040-25C8-4761-B8EB-C1DDC849433F.webp fucking tongue twisters

In ASWS we have:

Netori: Like Liandra x MC or Hiba x MC, where the girl is stolen from their partner by the protagonist.

Netorare: the classic, most of the bad guys in ASWS, want your girl or will try to steal it.
Thomas, Dasan, Orcs, bandits and so.

Netorase: Kinda, some cases of surprised MMF threesomes and pimping. (like Kate).

(And of course Netorazu but no one talks about it)

There are other swinging and sharing cases. (like anya).
But 3/4 of ASWS consist in hard NTR, you fail, you get cucked.
In any case if you turn off the NTR switch, the only male dick present is yours.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Is more like pimping/sharing if he actually agrees to let Kate be slowly molested.

Just the way i like it. Kate is one magnificent slut once you train her enough.
When i become king, i'm turning this kingdom into a massive whorehouse. (Hopefully that will be possible.)
And me and a certain fallen goddess will be enjoying the show while fucking like rabbits. Or maybe even participating.
The future looks bright, and very fuckable.

 

[zARRR]

Just the way i like it. Kate is one magnificent slut once you train her enough.
When i become king, i'm turning this kingdom into a massive whorehouse. (Hopefully that will be possible.)
And me and a certain fallen goddess will be enjoying the show while fucking like rabbits. Or maybe even participating.
The future looks bright, and very fuckable.

Oh hello there, what brings you here coffee man

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Oh hello there, what brings you here coffee man

Maybe i dropped by just to annoy you.
Or maybe i'm just here to keep an eye on your favorite game.
Or maybe i'm just bored.
Pick whichever sounds good.

 

[zARRR]

Maybe i dropped by just to annoy you.
Or maybe i'm just here to keep an eye on your favorite game.
Or maybe i'm just bored.
Pick whichever sounds good.

Too hard, can I pick the phone call option?

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Too hard, can I pick the phone call option?

It will cost you.

 

[BroembroemBoris]

MC promised Heather he will take her with him. Is that really an option in the game or a fake promise?

 

[zARRR]

It will cost you.

Fine, here is a cup of coffee

MC promised Heather he will take her with him. Is that really an option in the game or a fake promise?

How should we know?

The real question is: “When is Chyos bringing them to Arenfield?”

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Fine, here is a cup of coffee

Do you even know how much of it i got stashed in my house?
Ah well, i'll make this the discount.

 

[The_Dark_Army]

In the rumah storyline I chose to show evidence and Dasan ran away. Later there is an option to find him and challenge him Madrag Kaz. How will this affect the story ? I have chosen to the love route with nyra. Will killing him affect that ? Also what happens if I just leave him alone and do nothing. Will he appear again at a later point in the story ?

 

[acowasto]

If you are new to the forum, prepare thyself to see the everlasting war of NTR vs Vanilla,
It’s the fundamental of F95 zone
Here is a little image that perfectly sums up the deal.
View attachment 2979583 fucking tongue twisters

In ASWS we have:

Netori: Like Liandra x MC or Hiba x MC, where the girl is stolen from their partner by the protagonist.

Netorare: the classic, most of the bad guys in ASWS, want your girl or will try to steal it.
Thomas, Dasan, Orcs, bandits and so.

Netorase: Kinda, some cases of surprised MMF threesomes and pimping. (like Kate).

(And of course Netorazu but no one talks about it)

There are other swinging and sharing cases. (like anya).
But 3/4 of ASWS consist in hard NTR, you fail, you get cucked.
In any case if you turn off the NTR switch, the only male dick present is yours.

I still don't get it why people are using hentai terms of Netori/Netohentai/Netorare/Netokyo/Netorase/etc. or, in shot, NTR and thus making this so complicated, forcing people to ask which kind of NTR game has instead of using plain and simple words.

1. Normal Sex - your dick inside your girl.

2. Cheating - not your dick inside your girl and you don't know about it.

3. Cucking - as cheating, but you know about it and like it.

4. Sharing - sometimes your dick and sometimes not your dick inside your girl and you know about it.

Also... Thomas, Dasan, Girion, Dave, Orcs, Bandits, etc. can't steal your girls if they're all dead

The real question is: “When is Chyos bringing them to Arenfield?”

The answer is rather simple. To have your whorehouse in one place or at least close proximity instead of whole kingdom.

 

[Lukee1234]

In the rumah storyline I chose to show evidence and Dasan ran away. Later there is an option to find him and challenge him Madrag Kaz. How will this affect the story ? I have chosen to the love route with nyra. Will killing him affect that ? Also what happens if I just leave him alone and do nothing. Will he appear again at a later point in the story ?

Nyra will never know

 

[hoshimota]

I still don't get it why people are using hentai terms of Netori/Netohentai/Netorare/Netokyo/Netorase/etc. or, in shot, NTR and thus making this so complicated, forcing people to ask which kind of NTR game has instead of using plain and simple words.

1. Normal Sex - your dick inside your girl.

2. Cheating - not your dick inside your girl and you don't know about it.

3. Cucking - as cheating, but you know about it and like it.

4. Sharing - sometimes your dick and sometimes not your dick inside your girl and you know about it.

Also... Thomas, Dasan, Girion, Dave, Orcs, Bandits, etc. can't steal your girls if they're all dead




The answer is rather simple. To have your whorehouse in one place or at least close proximity instead of whole kingdom.

First, you left a lot out. Cucking is not always the guy knows about it and likes it, it also could be he knows about it but is a bitch and is afraid to do anything about it. Similarly, plenty of guys know (or highly suspect) their girl is cheating yet do not risk a confrontation. Crazy to me but more common than you would think.

Also, where on your list is pimping out?

Then there are all these other important details like does the girl want it to happen or not? Because that basically adds another version to each of the above scenarios.

The conversation always gets so complicated because unfortunately it's a very nuanced and complicated subject. Life was simpler when most people fundamentally agreed that no sharing of women was permissible lol.

And regarding bringing all the girls to the main town, I AGREE.... I don't get wtf the point of building your stupid house up is as it stands now. You should be able to invite X number of girls to come live in a room in your house and have your own little harem.

 

[zARRR]

I still don't get it why people are using hentai terms of Netori/Netohentai/Netorare/Netokyo/Netorase/etc. or, in shot, NTR and thus making this so complicated, forcing people to ask which kind of NTR game has instead of using plain and simple words.

Because using Japanese instead of simplifying everything in an understandable english is cooler YEAH

In spite of that, there are some terms which show their raw meaning in the original language, like ύβρις in Greek, or merely cannot be fully translated from a language to another without a periphrasis, like the notorious Nalaasaarusuummerujussuaraluarpunga in Greenlandic.
So the Japanese have a large showcase of sexual terms which most of the times cannot be filly translated in one word.

3. Cucking - as cheating, but you know about it and like it.

The last one mostly never happens, at least in English, it is a complete negative word.
But your list is oversimplify things, what if you the player is cheating instead?

Also... Thomas, Dasan, Girion, Dave, Orcs, Bandits, etc. can't steal your girls if they're all dead

Giron and Thomas soon tm, I can give you some previews but only for lamb sacrifices at Moloch

In the rumah storyline I chose to show evidence and Dasan ran away. Later there is an option to find him and challenge him Madrag Kaz. How will this affect the story ? I have chosen to the love route with nyra. Will killing him affect that ? Also what happens if I just leave him alone and do nothing. Will he appear again at a later point in the story ?

After Dasan escapes his story is done, revealing his crimes will let you have a love route with Nyra, but after that he won’t return not even if you lose to him.
He is just there to be killed and maybe buried, Chyos doesn’t want more Dasan paths.