RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[zARRR]

I don't remember any secret tunnels/catacombs like you describe being in A Struggle with Sin!

Did I miss something?

Evangelion refers to some historical sources which show the unfaithfulness of the monks and nuns in said monasteries through bones of unborn children or dead enfants.

I don’t think ASWS is going to have that tho.
All nuns will probably be virgins, or victims who escaped scandal.
But to be honest even the old abbess could be definitely untouched.

 

[Ottoeight]

Evangelion refers to some historical sources which show the unfaithfulness of the monks and nuns in said monasteries through bones of unborn children or dead enfants.

I don’t think ASWS is going to have that tho.
All nuns will probably be virgins, or victims who escaped scandal.
But to be honest even the old abbess could be definitely untouched.

Everything is fine as long as MC's getting laid.

 

[RevGen10]

Evangelion refers to some historical sources which show the unfaithfulness of the monks and nuns in said monasteries through bones of unborn children or dead enfants.

I don’t think ASWS is going to have that tho.
All nuns will probably be virgins, or victims who escaped scandal.
But to be honest even the old abbess could be definitely untouched.

maybe not. from the pater's dialogue, it doesn't seem like you have to be celibate.

 

[TheGrandMasterCory]

Evangelion refers to some historical sources which show the unfaithfulness of the monks and nuns in said monasteries through bones of unborn children or dead enfants.

I don’t think ASWS is going to have that tho.
All nuns will probably be virgins, or victims who escaped scandal.
But to be honest even the old abbess could be definitely untouched.

The secret tunnels/catacombs filled with corpses of infants which never entered the monasteries tell a different story... you shouldn't buy the celibate lies they feed you dureing worship.

Huh, so I did a little digging cause this topic is super interesting to me.

And funnily enough, although there was a mass baby grave found in a care home run by nuns in Ireland (

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), the tales of secret tunnels/passageways between monasteries and nunneries are widely considered to be ahistorical myths (

You must be registered to see the links

).

The original source of these myths seem to be from a book called Awful Discourses of Maria Monk. But after numerous investigations, it turns out that Maria Monk had completely fabricated her entire story (

You must be registered to see the links

).

Super interesting stuff.


Now although such secret tunnels and passageways don't seem to have existed underneath real monasteries and real convents, it'd be a pretty neat concept to explore in A Struggle with Sin.

We already see something like it coming into play with the underground cult beneath Rick's house.

 

[Nemesis2play]

high tier, the lower tiers will get it with x.5 release

so the update is out but this guys dont upload for us , right?

 

[drakesang]

i am loving this game more every time i play it. all these diffrent paths you can take for each character and the animations are amazing i cant wait to see what the next city involves. i am really hopeing we get to go undercover at the school to learn diffrent forms of magic or what ever else they teach there and get involved with some of the students and teachers assumeing its like a college based on sabrina and the blacksmiths daughter age.

 

[Deleted member 1895633]

when will be the next update??

 

[Evangelion-01]

Huh, so I did a little digging cause this topic is super interesting to me.

And funnily enough, although there was a mass baby grave found in a care home run by nuns in Ireland (

You must be registered to see the links

), the tales of secret tunnels/passageways between monasteries and nunneries are widely considered to be ahistorical myths (

You must be registered to see the links

).

The original source of these myths seem to be from a book called Awful Discourses of Maria Monk. But after numerous investigations, it turns out that Maria Monk had completely fabricated her entire story (

You must be registered to see the links

).

Super interesting stuff.


Now although such secret tunnels and passageways don't seem to have existed underneath real monasteries and real convents, it'd be a pretty neat concept to explore in A Struggle with Sin.

We already see something like it coming into play with the underground cult beneath Rick's house.

Well all I can tell you that they actually found some of these Catacombs where I live... sure it's not a common occurence, but it happened... though there is no real prooof that those children/infants were born by the nuns it is known that it wasn't a holy graveyard for children or stuff... it's the most reasonable assumption so it sticks.

so the update is out but this guys dont upload for us , right?

If people ask like this I doubt anyone will

 

[Overlord070]

Well all I can tell you that they actually found some of these Catacombs where I live... sure it's not a common occurence, but it happened... though there is no real prooof that those children/infants were born by the nuns it is known that it wasn't a holy graveyard for children or stuff... it's the most reasonable assumption so it sticks.

Not like you need me to back you but I've heard stories like this since I was a kid, finding real evidence is hard and all that survives at this point is word of mouth so it's hard to differentiate from myth but considering what we know priests get up to it's not hard to believe.

 

[Gato21]

Not like you need me to back you but I've heard stories like this since I was a kid, finding real evidence is hard and all that survives at this point is word of mouth so it's hard to differentiate from myth but considering what we know priests get up to it's not hard to believe.

Do you know if they were cloistered or not? If not they could have been attending to the orphaned or sick. Child mortality was insanely high back in the day. If cloistered, yeah they're probably doin' the deed.

 

[supernova25]

with the game getting bigger and bigger isn't it a good time to make a batter Walkthrough or why not a wiki with info about the npcs and their location and what route possible for them . idk what the future hold for this game but we are at a point where we can at least create a wiki i hope

 

[Evangelion-01]

Do you know if they were cloistered or not? If not they could have been attending to the orphaned or sick. Child mortality was insanely high back in the day. If cloistered, yeah they're probably doin' the deed.

The corpses were found in tunnels connecting the abbey of the males and the females... something that wasn't documented in the ground plan and denied by the responsible people.

with the game getting bigger and bigger isn't it a good time to make a batter Walkthrough or why not a wiki with info about the npcs and their location and what route possible for them . idk what the future hold for this game but we are at a point where we can at least create a wiki i hope

If only people had thought about that
Yeah they did and there are links in the OP

 

[zARRR]

If only people had thought about that
Yeah they did and there are links in the OP

Reading was never an option and so contributing to the wiki.
Although for some miraheze actions now only the owner can modify it, aka me, so send the info to me pm peopleee

Do you know if they were cloistered or not? If not they could have been attending to the orphaned or sick. Child mortality was insanely high back in the day. If cloistered, yeah they're probably doin' the deed.

That’s why MC is doing god’s work, pumping up the birth rates to fight child mortality

 

[Evangelion-01]

That’s why MC is doing god’s work, pumping up the birth rates to fight child mortality

I thought he did his public duty by following the Kings law of repopulating the country after his war with his brother killed most of the males?

 

[zARRR]

Huh, so I did a little digging cause this topic is super interesting to me.

And funnily enough, although there was a mass baby grave found in a care home run by nuns in Ireland (

You must be registered to see the links

), the tales of secret tunnels/passageways between monasteries and nunneries are widely considered to be ahistorical myths (

You must be registered to see the links

).

The original source of these myths seem to be from a book called Awful Discourses of Maria Monk. But after numerous investigations, it turns out that Maria Monk had completely fabricated her entire story (

You must be registered to see the links

).

Super interesting stuff.


Now although such secret tunnels and passageways don't seem to have existed underneath real monasteries and real convents, it'd be a pretty neat concept to explore in A Struggle with Sin.

We already see something like it coming into play with the underground cult beneath Rick's house.

Although that case is fairly recent and didn’t happen during medieval or modern times.

Also you forgot the most famous passage of them all, the one in Giron’s house.
Even Thomas’ inn could count but still

 

[Overlord070]

Do you know if they were cloistered or not? If not they could have been attending to the orphaned or sick. Child mortality was insanely high back in the day. If cloistered, yeah they're probably doin' the deed.

I've always heard they were dumped in secret tunnels or rooms.
If you google this there was an infamous case in Ireland IIRC.

 

[TheGrandMasterCory]

Well all I can tell you that they actually found some of these Catacombs where I live... sure it's not a common occurence, but it happened... though there is no real prooof that those children/infants were born by the nuns it is known that it wasn't a holy graveyard for children or stuff... it's the most reasonable assumption so it sticks.

Hmm, fair enough!

But catacombs (which are literally underground graveyards) aren't the same thing as "secret tunnels/passageways" supposedly connecting monasteries to nunneries.

Also, when you take into account that these catacombs were probably built and used during a time period where (1) most regular people had little else to do but have sex, (2) contraceptives and protection weren't widely available or probably didn't even exist, (3) having children out-of-wedlock was very stigmatized and heavily frowned-upon, and (4) child mortality was incredibly high, you realize that there could be other, more rational explanations for the many child-corpses found in these catacombs (aka underground graveyards) than priests clandestinely impregnating nuns.

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Also, this is my last post regarding this topic because I've already derailed this thread enough with this stuff.

Thanks for the interesting brain food though.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Hmm, fair enough!

But catacombs (which are literally underground graveyards) aren't the same thing as "secret tunnels/passageways" supposedly connecting monasteries to nunneries.

...Ok let's be completly accurate here... they are tunnels where they found skeletons embedded in the walls at some places they even masoned those tunnels with skeletons.
The design of those tunnels aren't matched by any other catacomb known in christian areas, but with that many corpses you'd even calll a tunnel a catacomb I am sure.

Also, when you take into account that these catacombs were probably built and used during a time period where (1) most regular people had little else to do but have sex, (2) contraceptives and protection weren't widely available or probably didn't even exist, (3) having children out-of-wedlock was very stigmatized and heavily frowned-upon, and (4) child mortality was incredibly high, you realize that there could be other, more rational explanations for the many child-corpses found in these catacombs (aka underground graveyards) than priests clandestinely impregnating nuns.

Again they were found in areas restricted to the public and well enough hidden that they likely were only known to a small number of people in the monastery or nunnary or what ever they were found at.
These aren't places you bury anyone unless you want them hidden or forgotten.
They were Catolic places so neither priests/monks nor nuns were even allowed adultery... children born out of wedlock was the smallest of their issue.
Yes we are speaking about the dark age... time of inquisitions, witch burnings and crusades... ever saw "The name of the Rose"?

 

[Ottoeight]

Honestly... what the damn fuck are you talking about?

please stop

 

[Yotetar]

Hank, they are talking about catacombs.

Don't be a dick Haank.