RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[Sinxflavio2]

OK i'm also gonna give my opinion about the church routes, here is my logic, if you go on the syfa path(like i did) eventually you gonna rise in the command chain, let me explain, when you meet the red demon at the ritual both, the MC and Syfa shows negative opinion towards him, eventually probably he'll become a Darsan 2.0 and we will get rid of him, assume a command post with the demons and after we'll see what to do about the demon master, that's what made me go with the syfa route

 

[52000758]

I hope you can get the option to beat both of the king and be the ruler yourself, I mean it was hinted at the beginning that you might be from royalty.

 

[zARRR]

When will new update be availble to poor people like us?

The usual shenanigans that we told you a bazillions of times “poor” guy.
Now have gay sex with Dasan in the new update.

It's a random occurring bug, not really sure what causes it, but I've had it block me a few times in the past. I will save it at that moment the next time it happens though. Btw how do I trigger the Tia finding out about mc having an affair with her mom scene? Do I have to finish the big orc base first?

Defeat Zorad and it will get unlocked

I hope you can get the option to beat both of the king and be the ruler yourself, I mean it was hinted at the beginning that you might be from royalty.

One day

 

[zARRR]

I play church quest 2time with syfa path but both time i unable to corrupt ritual?
anyone explain what happens when ritual fail?

You mean interrupt the ritual?
Have you took virginities and swapped out plugs?
Because when the ritual faile, Argan’as (or whatever he was called), rises up to poeer and takes Jorge’s appearances.
And in the future you’ll either dethrone him or get cucked by him Dasan style.

I dont know if this is a bug, but even after stopping Thomas from blackmailing Kate, she still gives the Blackmailed dialog when on her bed.

Also, do the items that you steal ever restock(like the logs and the bottles of wine)

Only money

 

[acowasto]

Ok, why does building a workbench give so much xp....juymped from lv8 to 13 in one go.....and is there anything else that gives a shtton of xp.

Because you can build it at low level. When it was introduced those already playing had way higher levels. Thus, you jumped five levels when, for example, I didn't even noticed I recived experience.

For a shit ton of experience... Well, I do not want to ruin your gaming experience, unless you don't mind spoilers, but the best reliable, in my opinion, way of gaining huge amount of experience is... killing every single thing that can be killed, because they respawn. Quest do give you sometimes way too much experience, but they can be done once. Those of repeated nature won't give you too much of experience points, but you still should do them, because EXP is EXP!

I hope you can get the option to beat both of the king and be the ruler yourself, I mean it was hinted at the beginning that you might be from royalty.

With the secret knowledge about the world and higer powers at the length of MC's dick, those two guys, who at this point are nothing more but a two retards bashing eachother with sticks, are just going to be defeated with snap of MC's fingers.

 

[zARRR]

Because you can build it at low level. When it was introduced those already playing had way higher levels. Thus, you jumped five levels when, for example, I didn't even noticed I recived experience.

For a shit ton of experience... Well, I do not want to ruin your gaming experience, unless you don't mind spoilers, but the best reliable, in my opinion, way of gaining huge amount of experience is... killing every single thing that can be killed, because they respawn. Quest do give you sometimes way too much experience, but they can be done once. Those of repeated nature won't give you too much of experience points, but you still should do them, because EXP is EXP!

But the question is: should it be reworked?
Should the tailor table give less exp? Or do we keep the exploit?

With the secret knowledge about the world and higer powers at the length of MC's dick, those two guys, who at this point are nothing more but a two retards bashing eachother with sticks, are just going to be defeated with snap of MC's fingers.

Weird that you didn’t talked about Eric’s 200 QI move to give his real daughter to the orcs to win the war

 

[Evangelion-01]

Because you can build it at low level. When it was introduced those already playing had way higher levels. Thus, you jumped five levels when, for example, I didn't even noticed I recived experience.

For a shit ton of experience... Well, I do not want to ruin your gaming experience, unless you don't mind spoilers, but the best reliable, in my opinion, way of gaining huge amount of experience is... killing every single thing that can be killed, because they respawn. Quest do give you sometimes way too much experience, but they can be done once. Those of repeated nature won't give you too much of experience points, but you still should do them, because EXP is EXP!

I'd rather say the exp. reward shows the importance of the task... there are Quests like killing Gurtak with an equal ammount of exp. (and I think resolveing the Rumah situation by standeing their ground against the forward camp).
The workbench unlocks armor crafting for most recipes and MC requires better armor in the short and middle term to stand his ground... alte term not so much for now

With the secret knowledge about the world and higer powers at the length of MC's dick, those two guys, who at this point are nothing more but a two retards bashing eachother with sticks, are just going to be defeated with snap of MC's fingers.

The Problem is "if rich men war it's the poor that die!"

 

[Arisato Minato]

I sided with Syfa but double-crossed her by not taking the virginity of any Nun yet the ritual still fail.

 

[Samsul Hidayat]

But the question is: should it be reworked?
Should the tailor table give less exp? Or do we keep the exploit?

Rework it, if Chyos actually cares about balance. It's an exploit after all.

I remember that cleaning the storage room in Emily's house gives you a fuckton of Love points. Not sure if it's still in the game.

 

[zARRR]

I sided with Syfa but double-crossed her by not taking the virginity of any Nun yet the ritual still fail.

Do you have the save for the exact event so I can send it to the man?

Rework it, if Chyos actually cares about balance. It's an exploit after all.

I remember that cleaning the storage room in Emily's house gives you a fuckton of Love points. Not sure if it's still in the game.

You can still clean it and it still gives love points, but not as many as before

 

[sleumas]

You mean interrupt the ritual?
Have you took virginities and swapped out plugs?
Because when the ritual faile, Argan’as (or whatever he was called), rises up to poeer and takes Jorge’s appearances.
And in the future you’ll either dethrone him or get cucked by him Dasan style.

Only money

preistess virgin or not same scene will be showed to me
Taking virginity and talk to syfa is criteria for tampering ritual?
save 4

 

[acowasto]

But the question is: should it be reworked?
Should the tailor table give less exp? Or do we keep the exploit

The problem is fixed experience. No matter if it's player on level 10 or on 69, the number given is the same. If it was % of max player experience, then it would be far more fair. Because everyone would get, for example, 5% of thier max experience. On the other hand, min-max player would probably abuse that, leaving easy quests and tasks to do it later for faster experience gain.

Weird that you didn’t talked about Eric’s 200 QI move to give his real daughter to the orcs to win the war

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To be honest I connected the dots and made not so wild guess he will do something like that and the talk MC listen to just confirmed it.

I mean, sure, marry your daughter for an ally who will not only offer you military aid but also manpower is something to consider, if not, I don't know.... orcs were not so much of a decimated pussies already?
Does king's Intelligence sleep or something? Oh, right... Of course they do. They couldn't discover a damn spy cell in Arenfield! They know only of MC and his mercenary group because they work in a plain sight!

Sadly, they don't know about MC few 'umiez and handful of halflings hunters beat the orcs. And not only at the gate of thier village, but also at thier outpost too. Then MC casually walked into a orc stronghold just to beat up thier leader and force him to peace treaty. Afer a while, he did it again! Casually walked into Calan's Rest, that moutain strongold and killed all the orcs, because they took one of his pussies! That's a person, with power and manpower to consider ally yourself with.

Or maybe Eric's intelligence knows everything but... is working for the other side.

 

[zARRR]

preistess virgin or not same scene will be showed to me
Taking virginity and talk to syfa is criteria for tampering ritual?
save 4

Taking virginities and swapping the butt plugs is the criteria to boycott the ritual

 

[Samsul Hidayat]

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To be honest I connected the dots and made not so wild guess he will do something like that and the talk MC listen to just confirmed it.

I mean, sure, marry your daughter for an ally who will not only offer you military aid but also manpower is something to consider, if not, I don't know.... orcs were not so much of a decimated pussies already?
Does king's Intelligence sleep or something? Oh, right... Of course they do. They couldn't discover a damn spy cell in Arenfield! They know only of MC and his mercenary group because they work in a plain sight!

Sadly, they don't know about MC few 'umiez and handful of halflings hunters beat the orcs. And not only at the gate of thier village, but also at thier outpost too. Then MC casually walked into a orc stronghold just to beat up thier leader and force him to peace treaty. Afer a while, he did it again! Casually walked into Calan's Rest, that moutain strongold and killed all the orcs, because they took one of his pussies! That's a person, with power and manpower to consider ally yourself with.

Or maybe Eric's intelligence knows everything but... is working for the other side.

I understand it's to show how desperate Eric is to win the war, but man, it's like he slept through all the events that show how fickle orcs are.

 

[zARRR]

The problem is fixed experience. No matter if it's player on level 10 or on 69, the number given is the same. If it was % of max player experience, then it would be far more fair. Because everyone would get, for example, 5% of thier max experience. On the other hand, min-max player would probably abuse that, leaving easy quests and tasks to do it later for faster experience gain.

Understandable, simple but straightforward to the matter.
You are starting to have the mentality of a good developer eh?

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To be honest I connected the dots and made not so wild guess he will do something like that and the talk MC listen to just confirmed it.

I mean, sure, marry your daughter for an ally who will not only offer you military aid but also manpower is something to consider, if not, I don't know.... orcs were not so much of a decimated pussies already?
Does king's Intelligence sleep or something? Oh, right... Of course they do. They couldn't discover a damn spy cell in Arenfield! They know only of MC and his mercenary group because they work in a plain sight!

Sadly, they don't know about MC few 'umiez and handful of halflings hunters beat the orcs. And not only at the gate of thier village, but also at thier outpost too. Then MC casually walked into a orc stronghold just to beat up thier leader and force him to peace treaty. Afer a while, he did it again! Casually walked into Calan's Rest, that moutain strongold and killed all the orcs, because they took one of his pussies! That's a person, with power and manpower to consider ally yourself with.

Or maybe Eric's intelligence knows everything but... is working for the other side.

Amazing meme, if it gets taken down I will riot and vouch for you with a ticket.
You can clearly understand why the brother rebelled if Eric is this retarded to not even use a fake maiden.
His brother is the sly one, a spy in Arenfield that boycotts everything managed to deal more damage than his army, they even noticed MC’s rising power before him!
Dunno Eric, maybe is too stubborn to win that completely forgot his surroundings, the fact that his subordinates are either corrupted or arrogant pricks (The general looks like the only competent guy) and that his political moves make even Dasan pale in comparison.
Or maybe he is a pure imbecile.
Or Chyos underlooked this in the writing.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Understandable, simple but straightforward to the matter.
You are starting to have the mentality of a good developer eh?

Amazing meme, if it gets taken down I will riot and vouch for you with a ticket.
You can clearly understand why the brother rebelled if Eric is this retarded to not even use a fake maiden.
His brother is the sly one, a spy in Arenfield that boycotts everything managed to deal more damage than his army, they even noticed MC’s rising power before him!
Dunno Eric, maybe is too stubborn to win that completely forgot his surroundings, the fact that his subordinates are either corrupted or arrogant pricks (The general looks like the only competent guy) and that his political moves make even Dasan pale in comparison.
Or maybe he is a pure imbecile.
Or Chyos underlooked this in the writing.

We hardly know anything about the brothers so far... chance is that Eric knows about MC and is afraid of his rapid ascend in authority and power... his mercaneries are an unknown factor not controllable by him.
He might ignore MCs potential in this war to prevent him to gain any more influence and recognation.
IF the MC has really chances on the throne these actions would atleast make a whole lot more sense.
On the other hand MC currently only has 20 men under his command and I doubt Eric knows anything about Rumah aside of it being at war with the Orcs maybe... his participation in the war wouldn't chage much in regards to man power... him sneaking into Vans camp and rescueing hostages and/or sabotageing his supplies is quiet a high chance once we help Anya, but Eric is unlikely to consider the chances on such an operation... I mean his spy master would have launched such an operation before if he considered it an option.

Without Hekimas support or sufficient desperation I doubt MC would consider this himself

 

[Silverdragon]

But the question is: should it be reworked?
Should the tailor table give less exp? Or do we keep the exploit?

I mean for me it is a good argument to replay the game, rushing getting the table since constitution is such a game changer of what you can do in one single day, since I love optimizing my playthroughs. I dont think it should be changed...I was just surprised.

 

[acowasto]

Understandable, simple but straightforward to the matter.
You are starting to have the mentality of a good developer eh?

Well... Seeing mistakes and errors, especially those already made and in work of others, or in the others, is way easier than looking at mistakes and errors of your work or yourself.
And I am trying to not fuck things up right at the start. Still, planning is one things. Doing them, well... that's a different story.

Amazing meme, if it gets taken down I will riot and vouch for you with a ticket.
You can clearly understand why the brother rebelled if Eric is this retarded to not even use a fake maiden.
His brother is the sly one, a spy in Arenfield that boycotts everything managed to deal more damage than his army, they even noticed MC’s rising power before him!
Dunno Eric, maybe is too stubborn to win that completely forgot his surroundings, the fact that his subordinates are either corrupted or arrogant pricks (The general looks like the only competent guy) and that his political moves make even Dasan pale in comparison.
Or maybe he is a pure imbecile.
Or Chyos underlooked this in the writing.

I'll go with what Samu Al Hydit said.

I understand it's to show how desperate Eric is to win the war, but man, it's like he slept through all the events that show how fickle orcs are.

We hardly know anything about the brothers so far... chance is that Eric knows about MC and is afraid of his rapid ascend in authority and power... his mercaneries are an unknown factor not controllable by him.
He might ignore MCs potential in this war to prevent him to gain any more influence and recognation.
IF the MC has really chances on the throne these actions would atleast make a whole lot more sense.
On the other hand MC currently only has 20 men under his command and I doubt Eric knows anything about Rumah aside of it being at war with the Orcs maybe

Well, MC just did what had to be done and filled the power vaccum left by King and Giron actions or rather lack of those.

Yes, mercenaries are outside of Eric's arms reach. But there ways to persuade them to work as asked. Either by small threat, gentle blackmail or piece of gold. Orcs? How he would even attempt to control them? Cast them out of society? Threat to destroy them? Those animals were made to "fightin' an' winnin'." and they don't care about " 'upid 'umiez!".
In mine opinion out of two unreliable options he picked the worst one.

What is more important to him? Wining the war with his brother King Van, who has powerful allies, huge army and is threating to destroy him and take what's his, or some one of many random guys who found a vaccum and filled it?
Kings would often nobilitate some of thier underlings to knights before battle to boost thier morale. And if that guy would somehow survive the battle and prove valuable that's even better.

Eric taking out Giron and putting MC in his place? That's not only the great way to turn mercenary group into a loyal vassal but also a good way to get rid of useless ally. Also it would be hard to defy King if MC and his group would like to stay in positon of power and keep Arenfield to them.

Yes, currently MC's mercenary group isn't big. That's 19 well trained and equipped lads, MC, Tia, Liv, Ima and of course FRANK!
That's 24 people. But, to be honest, we're limited by the scrpits right now. I, for example, would have 69 fully equipped and and trained lads to protect Arenfield and raid Van's caravans or even skirmish with his forces. Futher more I would fortify at least north part of Arenfield to discourage orcs from raids and south part to hold off Van's forces if they win and push through or manage to launch small scale attack to either raid it or claim it for a while to cut off Eric's supplies.

As for Eric knowing about Rumah and stuff... As i wrote, either his intelligence sucks at it's job or they work against him, or he's an imbecille and doesn't care. Wouldn't be the first one as a king. No matter that. MC is in great positon and has many cards in his hand. The question is... how Chyos is going to allow us to play with them?

 

[zARRR]

Well... Seeing mistakes and errors, especially those already made and in work of others, or in the others, is way easier than looking at mistakes and errors of your work or yourself.
And I am trying to not fuck things up right at the start. Still, planning is one things. Doing them, well... that's a different story.

Oh Fuck I wrote an amazing answer and the site decided to delete it, fuck my life.
You don get my full blown analysis about trial and error, the fact that learning from others‘ mistakes doesn’t make you invincible and yadda yadda.
Imagine how cool could have been my answer… Just like the monastery update uehehe
Anyways will your game be fantasy or sci fi?
Or will it exist in general

I'll go with what Samu Al Hydit said.

Well tbh he is a Parrakis boy and probably the only orc he has seen his from his father’s (Calan) tales, but even then he didn’t give a fuck when Calan’s rest fell.
So on pair with Henry VIII and Philipp III.

The question is... how Chyos is going to allow us to play with them?

In the most tragic way possible!

 

[jamesyoo]

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