RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[Bonz singh]

not a glitch, just not implemented yet.

Oh, thank you for the response.

 

[Asstolfo-]

is there no option to dethrone Dasan after making a deal with him?? Nyra said she will gather men to her side but after that nothing happened

 

[Evangelion-01]

is there no option to dethrone Dasan after making a deal with him?? Nyra said she will gather men to her side but after that nothing happened

No... you made your choice back than.

 

[Crazy_Chameleon]

That's why I felt the need to point this out at the end of my last post... this is not for argueing who is right but rather to throw around ideas hopeing that Chyos on his occassional visits takes some ideas, in the past we even managed to give some inspiration by some of these back and forth.

It seems to me that this is the norm in the Kingdom so I can't imagine the King to actually do anything about it, as far as we know taxes have been crippling for any city in the valve, if the intro wasn't mentioning it Ophelia was.
I mean even travel restrictions like those imposed in Kirlic are a problem, yet the King allows it, afterall it gives people less opportunities to rebell, and the common people would direct their anger to their local leader rather than the King.

Nice idea but the Problem is the common believe, both Ibah and Nyra made it clear that the people of Rumah have a common dislike to the white mans society since they treated them like leper.
And Tia is no exception, she also dislikes the majority of the people of Arenfield, it took her some time and corruption to accept Lyvia as MCs side wife and battle companion... Also Lyvia still refuses to visit Rumah with the two.
maybe a common base can be found in the future (like 2 or more generations), but I think it's more likely that this connection is formed with Darktholm, since they also fight against the Orcs.
My assumption is that they will take over the Deep forrest and Callan's Rest in order to keep the Orcs out, staying isolated for the most part.

That would demand that MC evacuates all villagers into the Forest maybe even the camp while the village gets potentially burned to the ground.
The Kings forces would approach from the West or the South and so far there is nothing MC can use to fight a Guerillia battle.
That aside the Kings spy master is well versed in the Forrest as he has been at Madra Khaz several times, sure with Imawyns ward the Camp will be safe but it's by far capable of keeping everyone from Arenfield there. Accomodations aside there is no food production and no place to actually start anything, the cave is not enough to work as washing place AND water source either (atleast for everyone in Arenfield).
If MC abondened Arenfield there is a fair chance as you mentioned, but that's not an Option for him.

It doesn't matter WHO pays... it's a fact that you conquered the mines and Giron reopened it... there is a reputation boost for him in this as he proofs that he gets stuff done... even though he just capitalizes MCs achievements by displaying it favorable to him.

My point is the King is close enough to prevent a meaningfull dirsuption... I mean think about it Hakima already disrupted it when he placed Anya in Arenfield, build a hideout under her house and used her and MC to build another one in the cleared up Bandit Outpost.
He even ambushed Henry when he came with a secret message for Giron. also we never see any convoys passing through Arenfield... it's more likely that the town is a convenient place to gather his troops and move in a bulk or let them rest from their service at the frontline, the goods are moved close to Arenfield but not through Arenfield apparently.
Also if the trade route to Kirlic had such an important role it wouldn't have been in brigands hands for so long.
Also the Iron from the mine is of no concern to the King, for John it's a live line, but the Kingdom has other mines... I mean otherwise the King would have sent his army to retake it rather than Giron some of his guards (which got rooted and caused Lyvia haveing a shortage of men to begin with).

The King is desperate enough to form an alliance with Orcs in order to NOT loose, nothing indicates he has won anything.
He suffered several setbacks by Hakimas sabotage, the Ravens attacks on Caravans and Ophelias conspiricy killing on of his commanders lately.
Sure he claims otherwise to assure his peoples but MC points out at several occassions that this is just bullshit.

I think it's more likely that he is either the son of a fallen noble or merchant... nothing that would benefit him like this, though a rebellion or declaration of indipendency might be an Option once the war actually ends, as the land will have wasted all of it's resources and soldiers in this conflict, but while it rages Arenfield is in a far to disadvantaged position

This depends on wether you sided with Hakima or not I think, if you didn't you'd be a rebell for both Kings, that needs to be dealt with in order to secure the supply lines.

Only if he is aware of the Kings movement.. the MC is only so good at this game because it's limited to Arenfield.
like I mentioned before many of teh favorable situation the MC found for himself against Giron are based on the fact, that he was able to overheart his plans in hiding, he can't do that with the King unless he moves to Parakis and builds an equal system of hidden passages and spying locations to get the knowledge.. also Giron lacks a Spymaster... the King does not.

They did though... I suspect they used that spymaster to negiotiate and manipulate them.
Gurthak had someone leading them to the bridge at that time and day.

I suspect he'll be forced to either kill every Orc or transform them like he did with the Chieftains daugther.
And the last part will make them part of the Half Orcs, which would allow Rumah to take controll of Madra Khaz and Callan's rest without straining their own presence and forces in the area... even if they manage to free more of their people such a task would likely over extend them without backup.
No matter what they wouldn't be the force you make them seem to be, nor improve their motivation to get dragged into this conflict with the Kings.

While I'll agree about them offering MC shelter and exile this doesn't make them motivated to shed blood in another conflict even if they just ended the one they kept going for decades. also what other Half Orcs?
The intro said that the Orcs started to come back near Arenfield and their first victims where Callan's rest and Darktholme... afterwards they settled down before recently start to expand their interest towards Arenfield.
The Dark Elves and Goblins had come closer to the town than the Orcs.

He would try and fail, the same way his father did, he obviously underestimates the Orcs both in intellect and fighting force.
He believes he can make the Orcs loose their entire Army in his war and than just take out the weakest ones that stayed behind... With what we have seen in Madra Khaz and Callan's rest this scenario is very unlikely, the Chieftain would likely send his youngest and impatient fighters that he has trouble to controll himself and letr them get dealt with in this war, keeping his Elites at home to react to such development.

By culture this seems impossible, in Rumah we learned that such arrangement often lead to the death of the women as she was roughly fucked to death by the Orcs, if they learned moderations and restraints it might be possible, but the way their current society operates they'd think that any women dying from breading was meant to die anyway.
The people of Rumah refuse these tributes as we saw with Raisha... she'd sacrifice herself for her people but she disliked the idea as much as any other... and just look at Katharina, she pretty much became an outcast after being raped by an Orc... so maybe you'll be able to find a lunatic whishing to be ravished, but it's very likely she won't live for long.

They raided themselfes before some of them decided to become weaker in order to build peacefull lives, afterwards the Orcs just had an much easier target, also they had betrayed Gromthul and Orcs got rallied by his Champions to deal with those traitors.
Fucking their women to death was just the fun part of this.

The Problem is that beyond the mountain range there is a wild land were potentially several thousand Orcs live, so even if on our side of the mountain there seem far less they also replenish any killed Orc in around 3 days without feeling pressured, otherwise they'd likely send a stronger force from beyond the mountain to deal with Rumah.
I still think the only real Option with the Orcs is a peace on the NTR route and turning them like that Orc girl (in the Vanilla route) in order to have a combined fighting force and several strongholds to hold off the Orcs, the next generation of Half Orcs will have a higher output of females as human evolution had proofen so the new settlements had potential of growth.

Indeed but Giron is likely convinced that the leash he raised his children with are strong enough to wistand any outer influence... I mean he likely compares it with how Dave grew up... though let's be honest Dave is a weakling that only seeks his fathers approval.... the day Giron dies he'll likely loose all drive and become a depressed asshole rather than a simple asshole.

That still puts up the Problem of where to arrest them and how to deal with the Kings immediate retalliation.


That is what was planned, but after the Queens learns about the fate of her daugther she seeks MCs help and tries to spperate herself from her husband causing her to prolong her stay in Arenfield from that point on.
She was expected to return to Parakis after she handed over her daugther so she could be married to the Orc chief and seal the alliance.

Well I think we have to agree to disagree at this point. Our points of contention seem to be that you think the half orcs and orcs will never come around to allying with humans. Which I think if false. Sure there is distrust but they accepted a 'white man' into the tribe at their chieftains behest once. And orcs respect strength which the MC has. And they accept Arianna pretty damn fast. Even when he is chieftain and it isn't just Dasan trying to get more pussy. I think that alone speaks as to the impression the MC has made on them. Their attitude is already changed from the game's start.

I'm not talking about forming a single nation after all nor changing their beliefs. And they have seen their own act just as venally and cruelly as any 'white man' at this point assuming you exposed Dasan. Not to mention the fact that the only woman or man in the entirety of Rumah that shows any resistance to your peaceful intent is Nyra and Dasan. Even Raaisha about faces in an instant when she learns that you are possibly strong enough to change Rumah's situation. Even Nyra doesn't even TRY to sabotage you until she sees you fucking half the camp and thinks you're just in it for the pussy. The mountain orcs are a thing sure but as long as any orcs in close contact with humans have this issue at the very least you're looking at a permanent stalemate that will only cause Rumah's power to grow over time. Especially now they can defend themselves.

On the other hand the King being desperate enough to attempt to ally with the Orcs only underscores the precariousness of his situation. Also I said he was close to victory. That isn't the same thing as winning handily But he seems to be aware that the war has taxed the land to breaking point. Which is why he is seeking out allies which may be very publicly distasteful. He's desperate to finish it and the whole thing hangs on a knife's edge as I said before. Which is precisely why he can't just turn his ass around and march on Ardenfeld. In the situation the King and his Kingdom is in and the state of the war he CAN'T pull significant forces off the front without losing. He simply does not have that luxury right now. Especially if the Orcs get taken away from him as a possible ally. And my point about the coldstones using them was to illutrate just what the MC had to do to even realize that the Coldstones were behind it. And forgetting the Orcs in the scenario I'm talking about he's not the Half Orcs 'exile' or 'pet' He's .. their .. Cheiftain. And has the tribe's support. Honestly I'm a bit confused about you questioning their Alliegance at this point. They were loyal to Ibhar to the extend to accept the MC. And Raaisha herself appointed him. Now if that pussy Dasan is in charge on the other hand the equation changes dramatically.

As for the king trying and failing with the Orcs .. totally agree. But he might well end up destroying Rumah. And even the Orcs don't actually want Rumah GONE .. or it already would be. And even the pureblood orcs might well prefer allying with someone with proven honor, strength and tenacity over the son of the man who led a crusade against them. My guess is the king is planning to throw the orcs at his enemies for women and riches so he can then turn around and destroy them after they are weakened fighting his war. Or at least gain a lot of territory. Good thing we're here to make sure that little plan doesn't work out.

As for the matter of other half orcs. We already know that someone like Tia exists, She can't be the only one. Also the conversations with Ibhar mention that THIS community of half orcs is known as Rumah .. This implies the existance of other communities or at least scattered individuals looking for a home. Half orcs have been a 'thing' for generations now. They've just never really been able to settle or create their own identity because both the humans and orcs persecute them. And Tia really doesn't hate humans despite everything. That's one of the things I like about her. She even accepts you over a half orc suitor. Because she likes you. Sure you CAN corrupt her into it. But you don't HAVE to. As for getting pissed about other women without corruption .. buddy .. that's not a half orc thing. That's just a woman thing.

I think ruling them and the half orcs out of the conflict is a big stretch. And if the king really DOES burn Ardenfeld to the ground then he's just shot himself in the foot. I think that you are assuming that the king has infinite resources and can do anything. That is 100% not the case. Even if supplies could be sourced elsewhere they have to come through Ardenfeld or the surrounding woodlands to get to where they need to go. So he'd be delivering those supplies to you instead of him unless he retreats his army bahind Ardenfeld. The truth is the king needs Ardenfeld more than Ardenfeld needs Ardenfeld. More likeley he would try and take it over as he would need production and trade restored asap. And that would give the evacuated village and the half orcs all the room it needs to mess things up for him. What he does would depend on how smart he is. But trying to burn Ardenfeld would be catastrophically self destructive. And by attempting to use the Orcs he's shown at least more foresight than Giron. He needs the town logistically intact. He'd basically be giving the war momentum and perhaps the war entire to the Usurper at that point.

And indeed the tax situation being 'standard' is no negative either. If anything that means that should he not be immediately snuffed out the MC can probably count on a lot of support from elsewhere. Either direct or under the table. Totally agree with you about Dave, He's a total non issue that runs to daddy the moment things get tough. Which is why I haven't mentioned him so far hehe .. I totally agree that he's probably given Giron the idea that his control over his children is absolute however. But to me that's just one more notch on the 'Giron is an idiot.' Tally. If it were not for one thing I would discount Dave entirely. And even think assassinating Giron so that Dave can replace him would be a good thing. However though Dave becoming depressed after Giron's death is one possibility. I think that the far more likely outcome is that Dave becomes utterly paranoid. His father, His security gone .. possibly murdered in his own bed. He would flail wildly against anyone he even so much as suspects. And though such men undoubtably march to their grave they can do a hell of a lot of damage on the way. Say what you like about Giron but his greed and arrogance make him predictable and relatively stable. A paranoid dave could fuck all sorts of shit up.

Frankly with the war situation as it is the idea that the king can just turn around and sort out problems at his rear .. I think it's a little hard to believe. If he turns his back on his enemy in the state the war is in he loses it. Also being able to traverse the woods and the ability to fight a military campaign in it are two very different things. And it's not just 'woods' It's THEIR woods .. that they know all their lives. Marching an army such as you would use on the battlefield into the forest like that is just suicide. They would be doing their hedgehog impressions in no time. The locals know all the paths. They know the terrain and they have the defensive advantage. They know the land and it's secrets. And you simply CAN'T march a massed force through the woods and mountains with medieval technology and expect it not to get torn apart. Let alone the logistical nightmare of supplying those troops. There's a reason why the french thought the Ardennes were impenetrable.

Now if you had said he would set the FOREST on fire .. then I could see that working. However I think this would also be difficult given the terrain. You're close to a swamp in the riverlands .. the ground is probably near waterlogged and the trees not very flammable. Any effort to set the forest on fire could itself be attacked from within the forest. Just like the town could be. You're not looking at a direct confrontation. You're looking at withering hails of arrows flying invisibly from the treeline, melting away in response to any attack in force. Exhausting your manpower and your morale. Until you finally retreat to rest and then the enemy sneaks up to your camps and destroys/steals supplies and assasinates officers. With military coordination in chaos caravans would be easy pickings once more. The situation in Ardenfeld would require a long term extended guerilla campaign to root out. And he doesn't have that kind of time before the Usurper turns up behind him.

Now I'll grant you that facing the King, who appears to be a thinker in a shadow war would be far harder than facing Giron. But as far as I'm concerned that is a very low bar. Giron is taking candy from a baby level incompetant in that department. And the MC so far has shown a good deal of cunning and intelligence. I'm not saying it would be easy to deal with the Kings spymaster. But I think the MC could match him especially with the support some of his less well known lovers could provide from within. But I agree I think that this aspect is by far the greatest threat to the MC as though he is competant in such matters .. he does not have an entire organization of dedicated agents on his side .. yet. Now if the organisation his guardian helped found could be redeemed and it's resources repurposed to any degree ..

Now in the scenario I invisage, The MC doesnot just have ONE camp at that point. He has several, All protected using Imawynn's magic. (If it can be done once .. It can be done again.) There's no reason to for now. But the idea of 'fitting them all into one camp' Is not necessary. And anyone trying to attack Rumah directly would face rear attacks from your camps. Or camp .. whatever dev decides to do. You also can't tell me that such a campaign wouldn't do much to bridge the hatred between human and half orc. Not even including the actions of their chieftain. Less likely friendships have been forged in battle.

And frankly you wouldn't even have to actually arrest the tavern soldiers though they could always be stashed in Giron's old mansion. I believe there was a dungeon there .. Also all that's really necessary is to KO them long enough for them to be disarmed. Then you give them a choice, Fight for us, Work in the Fields or go and explain to your king how you got so utterly .. utterly blindsided. Anyone dumb enough to choose the latter option is someone we don't need.

Btw sorry if I'm getting some of the names and words wrong. I'm pretty heavily dyslexic. I think however that we also have to understand that we are talking about best case scenario's here. The Half Orcs under Dasan are a very different scenario for example. I am talking about best case scenarios where the MC has made allies and friends wherever he can. And hasn't let people like Dasan take power they don't deserve and that they will misuse.

 

[Dodododo105]

is there no option to dethrone Dasan after making a deal with him?? Nyra said she will gather men to her side but after that nothing happened

It is planned eventually, but it is not currently in the game.

 

[NekoSempaiAMV]

Hola, ¿Saben que personajes ya tienen posibilidad de embarazo?

 

[Jeferss12]

Hola, ¿Saben que personajes ya tienen posibilidad de embarazo?

In the relationship icon, where you see the window with all the available girls so far, in each of their bios if it says 'pregnant' status, it means that girl can get pregnant. For now, though, only two of them actually show the full pregnancy process, which consequently leads to the birth of the child.

 

[Draconas]

51.After the party ended you can fuck Lyvia near the fire if her C is high enough. If her anal training has progressed and you allowed the mercs to participate you can invite in the watching merc for a 3some

i have 34 corruption and still this step is not happening. PLease help

 

[Puckhog27]

The whole part part with Lyvia was great. I would like to see the same thing with Kate in the bar after strip dancing. She could have group sex with the soldiers there.

 

[Crazy_Chameleon]

You know the one thing that kind of does annoy me here is the orgasm mechanics. It seems the women cum randomly. With different timers for different positions .. I do kinda like that. But some scenes don't seem to have orgasm prompts at all and you can end up sitting there waiting for it to happen. I think the dev should give a orgasm countdown timer for h-scenes. Or something like the emily one where you can just hit the 'make her cum' button.

 

[Apartment817]

51.After the party ended you can fuck Lyvia near the fire if her C is high enough. If her anal training has progressed and you allowed the mercs to participate you can invite in the watching merc for a 3some

i have 34 corruption and still this step is not happening. PLease help

How many times have you had anal in her tent? Can you change positions while in her butt? If not, refer to her anal section in the walkthrough. Until she anally trained, the merc scene won't happen.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Well I think we have to agree to disagree at this point. Our points of contention seem to be that you think the half orcs and orcs will never come around to allying with humans.

On that I agree

Sure there is distrust but they accepted a 'white man' into the tribe at their chieftains behest once.

And it nearly ended in disaster for them once, Nyra is still mentioning what a bad idea it is to get involved with the "civiliced people" afterwards.

And orcs respect strength which the MC has.

Unless turned if we look at Umah she no longer has this view on the world, also the other issue is the people of Arenfield who consider the people of Rumah savages and fear them themselfes since they never even tried to make trade with them or get their help as scouts through the deeper woods.
Imagine armed forces seeing an Army of Half- and Full Orcs comeing from the forest you imagine them simply cheering for them? I can imaginie this to happen over more than one generation with mutual exposion but in the current situation?
No chance.

And they accept Arianna pretty damn fast. Even when he is chieftain and it isn't just Dasan trying to get more pussy.

MC declares her his Wanita, whatever reason they had to refuse her was outdone by this fact, even Nyra had to reluctantly accept MCs Wanita in her tribe as tradition dictate... sure MC could bring every woman from Arenfield to Rumah and repeat this but Arianna is also quiet unique in embraceing the way the people in Rumah live and adapting to it, I don't see that with any other of MCs Wanitas.

I'm not talking about forming a single nation after all nor changing their beliefs. And they have seen their own act just as venally and cruelly as any 'white man' at this point assuming you exposed Dasan. Not to mention the fact that the only woman or man in the entirety of Rumah that shows any resistance to your peaceful intent is Nyra and Dasan. Even Raaisha about faces in an instant when she learns that you are possibly strong enough to change Rumah's situation. Even Nyra doesn't even TRY to sabotage you until she sees you fucking half the camp and thinks you're just in it for the pussy. The mountain orcs are a thing sure but as long as any orcs in close contact with humans have this issue at the very least you're looking at a permanent stalemate that will only cause Rumah's power to grow over time. Especially now they can defend themselves.

If they were strong enough to force a stalment they wouldn't have to negotiate peace with Madra Khaz, based on what we learn dureing the Cult story it is not even the only Orc settlement in the area, but likely the biggest or best fortificated one (2 fucking Balista right at the gate).
Rumah made a stand but they could be swept away by a fullout attack at any time, which is why diplomatics have to be made.
Also keep in mind that any potential solution needs to be apllyable to any path the Player might have chosen... as you mention yourself some of these ideas would not work unless MC is Chieftain.

On the other hand the King being desperate enough to attempt to ally with the Orcs only underscores the precariousness of his situation. Also I said he was close to victory. That isn't the same thing as winning handily But he seems to be aware that the war has taxed the land to breaking point. Which is why he is seeking out allies which may be very publicly distasteful. He's desperate to finish it and the whole thing hangs on a knife's edge as I said before. Which is precisely why he can't just turn his ass around and march on Ardenfeld. In the situation the King and his Kingdom is in and the state of the war he CAN'T pull significant forces off the front without losing. He simply does not have that luxury right now. Especially if the Orcs get taken away from him as a possible ally. And my point about the coldstones using them was to illutrate just what the MC had to do to even realize that the Coldstones were behind it. And forgetting the Orcs in the scenario I'm talking about he's not the Half Orcs 'exile' or 'pet' He's .. their .. Cheiftain. And has the tribe's support. Honestly I'm a bit confused about you questioning their Alliegance at this point. They were loyal to Ibhar to the extend to accept the MC. And Raaisha herself appointed him. Now if that pussy Dasan is in charge on the other hand the equation changes dramatically.

If anything the King recognizes that he is about to loose the war and in a last effort listens to questionable advisors.
Though this situation could be changed by MC himself... MC needs to infiltrate Vans military Camp to free Anyas mother and undue the alliance he has with the Shogunat in the north. This action alone could Level the battlefield situation as both sides will once again be faceing off against themselfes.
MC certainly would be a hero for such an Action though it would still prolong the war as both sides will once again be at equal strength.
I don't think either of the Kings is willing to admit that their nation is no longer capable to uphold this current stalement either, their action indicates that they are convinced that these efforts will pay off and the Vale will be stronger than ever from this recent conflict.
Sure diviating his forces will cost him, but less than a rebellion right next to the frontline, the sparks will fly and both sides will have to worry about an uptake in such rebellions... the people are at a breaking point once there is a single place where the dam leaks it will break in a heartbeat... so dealing with a rebellion has higher priortiy to prepareing an attack on Vans side of the river (remember the King ammasses forces for an assault not the defence).
About Rumah the people in Rumah are not perse loyal they are just rallied and united by the threat of extinction by the Orcs, we had this discussion before, they would have accepted sacrficing their women under Dassans rule as well as make a last stand effort under MCs simply because they had no choice, if they resist (even some of them) the Orcs will slaugther them all and if they bow their heads their women will have to pay the prize... both outcomes were acceptable and even MC was surprised how well he managed with these conditions.

As for the king trying and failing with the Orcs .. totally agree. But he might well end up destroying Rumah. And even the Orcs don't actually want Rumah GONE .. or it already would be. And even the pureblood orcs might well prefer allying with someone with proven honor, strength and tenacity over the son of the man who led a crusade against them. My guess is the king is planning to throw the orcs at his enemies for women and riches so he can then turn around and destroy them after they are weakened fighting his war. Or at least gain a lot of territory. Good thing we're here to make sure that little plan doesn't work out.

That much he had admitted to Helena when he declared his intend for their daugther, though I doubt any of his plans will work out.
The Orcs are not an united people standing as one, the Cult story made it clear... there are several chieftains and settlements being ruled independently, I am sure that Madra Khaz wants Rumah gone, but they lack the forces to do so as other Clans in the area might take their weakness as a reason to attack... why would they even consider makeing deals with the Cult and the King if they were the powerhouse here?
They respect strength as you mentioned and Callan proofed it better than MC as he openly defeated and sealed several, if not all, of gromthuls champions on this side of the mountain range, his sons currently allow their revival in their domains.
MC on the other hand is forced to utilize Guerilla battle tactics and negotiations in order to maintain a fragile stalement and unless he finds a way to free the half Orcs in Madra Khaz he has no way to strengthen the people of Rumah much further (sure he can give his 5 man weapons and armors eventually), but with these numbers there is noway they'd survive an attack on Madra Khaz.
All MCs action showing his individual strength are either covert or outdone as the faction he represents does so as weaklings.

As for the matter of other half orcs. We already know that someone like Tia exists, She can't be the only one. Also the conversations with Ibhar mention that THIS community of half orcs is known as Rumah .. This implies the existance of other communities or at least scattered individuals looking for a home. Half orcs have been a 'thing' for generations now. They've just never really been able to settle or create their own identity because both the humans and orcs persecute them. And Tia really doesn't hate humans despite everything. That's one of the things I like about her. She even accepts you over a half orc suitor. Because she likes you. Sure you CAN corrupt her into it. But you don't HAVE to. As for getting pissed about other women without corruption .. buddy .. that's not a half orc thing. That's just a woman thing.

She very likely is because Rumah was founded by Social Outcasts like Katharina and Tia, over time they created their own children and became more than a gathering of Outcasts (a tribe) but yes any Half Orc is mentioned to be unable to make a living or being threatened with death by abondenment of the unwilling mother or the community they are born into.
There is a reason for the tribe people hatred towards the civilized men.
Tia hates MOST people in Arenfield though, she is resilent enough to ignore it in order to stay alive or have a life, she inititally refuses to go to Rumah because she thought she had build something for herself in Arenfield even if she was never really accepted, she only went to Rumah on the pressure of her mother.
Sure about the polygamy I agree but it took her a while to accept Lyvia as battle companion either... not to mention Bianca.

I think ruling them and the half orcs out of the conflict is a big stretch. And if the king really DOES burn Ardenfeld to the ground then he's just shot himself in the foot. I think that you are assuming that the king has infinite resources and can do anything. That is 100% not the case. Even if supplies could be sourced elsewhere they have to come through Ardenfeld or the surrounding woodlands to get to where they need to go. So he'd be delivering those supplies to you instead of him unless he retreats his army bahind Ardenfeld. The truth is the king needs Ardenfeld more than Ardenfeld needs Ardenfeld. More likeley he would try and take it over as he would need production and trade restored asap. And that would give the evacuated village and the half orcs all the room it needs to mess things up for him. What he does would depend on how smart he is. But trying to burn Ardenfeld would be catastrophically self destructive. And by attempting to use the Orcs he's shown at least more foresight than Giron. He needs the town logistically intact. He'd basically be giving the war momentum and perhaps the war entire to the Usurper at that point.

I believe the King is either made believe or really believes that, but that aside an empty village is not providing to his domain, he also lacks an ambundance of people that could settle there fearing attacks from the previous inhabitants or not, at the point of open rebellion Arenfields usefullness turn into a liability and he'll consider himself forced to apply the hard hand on that.
Also I don't think the supply lines go by the northern route, If anything it seems to follow the southern route pushing all those bandits into the Southern area of Arenfield and the mill.
Burning the village and livelyhood of the rebells will crush their morale and sends a message to anyone trying to repeat this.

And indeed the tax situation being 'standard' is no negative either. If anything that means that should he not be immediately snuffed out the MC can probably count on a lot of support from elsewhere. Either direct or under the table. Totally agree with you about Dave, He's a total non issue that runs to daddy the moment things get tough. Which is why I haven't mentioned him so far hehe .. I totally agree that he's probably given Giron the idea that his control over his children is absolute however. But to me that's just one more notch on the 'Giron is an idiot.' Tally. If it were not for one thing I would discount Dave entirely. And even think assassinating Giron so that Dave can replace him would be a good thing. However though Dave becoming depressed after Giron's death is one possibility. I think that the far more likely outcome is that Dave becomes utterly paranoid. His father, His security gone .. possibly murdered in his own bed. He would flail wildly against anyone he even so much as suspects. And though such men undoubtably march to their grave they can do a hell of a lot of damage on the way. Say what you like about Giron but his greed and arrogance make him predictable and relatively stable. A paranoid dave could fuck all sorts of shit up.

Damn that's some dark outlook... sadly I can't even deny this possibility being rather high.

Frankly with the war situation as it is the idea that the king can just turn around and sort out problems at his rear .. I think it's a little hard to believe. If he turns his back on his enemy in the state the war is in he loses it. Also being able to traverse the woods and the ability to fight a military campaign in it are two very different things. And it's not just 'woods' It's THEIR woods .. that they know all their lives. Marching an army such as you would use on the battlefield into the forest like that is just suicide. They would be doing their hedgehog impressions in no time. The locals know all the paths. They know the terrain and they have the defensive advantage. They know the land and it's secrets. And you simply CAN'T march a massed force through the woods and mountains with medieval technology and expect it not to get torn apart. Let alone the logistical nightmare of supplying those troops. There's a reason why the french thought the Ardennes were impenetrable.

But ignoreing the situation would be worse for him if the conflict keeps dragging on, also the woods are only north of arenfield, south of it there is wasteland and shallow mountains, while potentially also a great ambush terrain the seems to have secured the route already as all those Bandits in the southern maps are being pushed to Arenfield from the south.
That aside the King keeps increasing his troops at the frontline so he could still overhelm MCs mercaneries with the reinforcement he keeps getting, it would delay them but not force the King to reroute his main forces.
The woods have been offlimits duo to the Orcs preseence since MCs childhood and likely befoore, Katherine got raped because she ignored it out of greed (I know she had other motivations but if you boil it down to it's core she needed money and fast)... they don't know anything about the woods, I mean even Rick messed up the directions to that hut at Lake Lauren, which is still considered mostly save.
I agree on the logistical part, but there is no need to do it, like I said fight the forces IN the village, than burn it down to send a message, even if the majority of the people are hiding in the woods it's unlikely they can recover from that, the King could even expect the Orcs as his new allies to finish the job eventually.

ow if you had said he would set the FOREST on fire .. then I could see that working. However I think this would also be difficult given the terrain. You're close to a swamp in the riverlands .. the ground is probably near waterlogged and the trees not very flammable. Any effort to set the forest on fire could itself be attacked from within the forest. Just like the town could be. You're not looking at a direct confrontation. You're looking at withering hails of arrows flying invisibly from the treeline, melting away in response to any attack in force. Exhausting your manpower and your morale. Until you finally retreat to rest and then the enemy sneaks up to your camps and destroys/steals supplies and assasinates officers. With military coordination in chaos caravans would be easy pickings once more. The situation in Ardenfeld would require a long term extended guerilla campaign to root out. And he doesn't have that kind of time before the Usurper turns up behind him.

Wait... since when do we have archers?
Our guys are armed with chainmail armor and swords, Rumah has archers alright but neither the Brigands nor our guys have them. Also I doubt the length of a military campaign... like I said all teh King needs to do is to send a message and leave the rest to time and the Orcs axpecting that the people of Arenfield will not be able to recover from such a loss.

Now I'll grant you that facing the King, who appears to be a thinker in a shadow war would be far harder than facing Giron. But as far as I'm concerned that is a very low bar. Giron is taking candy from a baby level incompetant in that department. And the MC so far has shown a good deal of cunning and intelligence. I'm not saying it would be easy to deal with the Kings spymaster. But I think the MC could match him especially with the support some of his less well known lovers could provide from within. But I agree I think that this aspect is by far the greatest threat to the MC as though he is competant in such matters .. he does not have an entire organization of dedicated agents on his side .. yet. Now if the organisation his guardian helped found could be redeemed and it's resources repurposed to any degree ..

I think the best we can hope is that MC isolates Darktholm from the rest of the Cult and the demon whorshipping as the people there are idealists, though they'd lack the resources and Power to keep themselfes alfoat, since the farmland is not usable for any of the crops they know. I think they might be able to build connection to Rumah, since by my gues, the people of Rumah are the Bastard children born from the survivng women of Darktholm, which were conquered by the Orcs in their counter attack. It would explain how such a big number of Half Orcs could be born in a single area in such a short time, that they later could create a tribe society within a single generation.

Now in the scenario I invisage, The MC doesnot just have ONE camp at that point. He has several, All protected using Imawynn's magic. (If it can be done once .. It can be done again.) There's no reason to for now. But the idea of 'fitting them all into one camp' Is not necessary. And anyone trying to attack Rumah directly would face rear attacks from your camps. Or camp .. whatever dev decides to do. You also can't tell me that such a campaign wouldn't do much to bridge the hatred between human and half orc. Not even including the actions of their chieftain. Less likely friendships have been forged in battle.

Imawyn needs to upkeep her magic and stated that the expansion of the camp is already far to taxing for her normally, unless we find a way to support her magic I doubt anything like this is possible.
There might be a chance to use the Raven and his experience in operating in the woods by constantly changeing base, but that is unfit for a larger group supporting refugees.

 

[Brazilian Engrish]

No status report this week? Thats weird.

 

[randomv]

No status report this week? Thats weird.

Chyos posted on discord that he wants to save the report for when the update gets released. It's taking longer than he thought but it should be ready tomorrow.

 

[Baldy_Sinz]

On that I agree

And it nearly ended in disaster for them once, Nyra is still mentioning what a bad idea it is to get involved with the "civiliced people" afterwards.

Unless turned if we look at Umah she no longer has this view on the world, also the other issue is the people of Arenfield who consider the people of Rumah savages and fear them themselfes since they never even tried to make trade with them or get their help as scouts through the deeper woods.
Imagine armed forces seeing an Army of Half- and Full Orcs comeing from the forest you imagine them simply cheering for them? I can imaginie this to happen over more than one generation with mutual exposion but in the current situation?
No chance.

MC declares her his Wanita, whatever reason they had to refuse her was outdone by this fact, even Nyra had to reluctantly accept MCs Wanita in her tribe as tradition dictate... sure MC could bring every woman from Arenfield to Rumah and repeat this but Arianna is also quiet unique in embraceing the way the people in Rumah live and adapting to it, I don't see that with any other of MCs Wanitas.

If they were strong enough to force a stalment they wouldn't have to negotiate peace with Madra Khaz, based on what we learn dureing the Cult story it is not even the only Orc settlement in the area, but likely the biggest or best fortificated one (2 fucking Balista right at the gate).
Rumah made a stand but they could be swept away by a fullout attack at any time, which is why diplomatics have to be made.
Also keep in mind that any potential solution needs to be apllyable to any path the Player might have chosen... as you mention yourself some of these ideas would not work unless MC is Chieftain.

If anything the King recognizes that he is about to loose the war and in a last effort listens to questionable advisors.
Though this situation could be changed by MC himself... MC needs to infiltrate Vans military Camp to free Anyas mother and undue the alliance he has with the Shogunat in the north. This action alone could Level the battlefield situation as both sides will once again be faceing off against themselfes.
MC certainly would be a hero for such an Action though it would still prolong the war as both sides will once again be at equal strength.
I don't think either of the Kings is willing to admit that their nation is no longer capable to uphold this current stalement either, their action indicates that they are convinced that these efforts will pay off and the Vale will be stronger than ever from this recent conflict.
Sure diviating his forces will cost him, but less than a rebellion right next to the frontline, the sparks will fly and both sides will have to worry about an uptake in such rebellions... the people are at a breaking point once there is a single place where the dam leaks it will break in a heartbeat... so dealing with a rebellion has higher priortiy to prepareing an attack on Vans side of the river (remember the King ammasses forces for an assault not the defence).
About Rumah the people in Rumah are not perse loyal they are just rallied and united by the threat of extinction by the Orcs, we had this discussion before, they would have accepted sacrficing their women under Dassans rule as well as make a last stand effort under MCs simply because they had no choice, if they resist (even some of them) the Orcs will slaugther them all and if they bow their heads their women will have to pay the prize... both outcomes were acceptable and even MC was surprised how well he managed with these conditions.

That much he had admitted to Helena when he declared his intend for their daugther, though I doubt any of his plans will work out.
The Orcs are not an united people standing as one, the Cult story made it clear... there are several chieftains and settlements being ruled independently, I am sure that Madra Khaz wants Rumah gone, but they lack the forces to do so as other Clans in the area might take their weakness as a reason to attack... why would they even consider makeing deals with the Cult and the King if they were the powerhouse here?
They respect strength as you mentioned and Callan proofed it better than MC as he openly defeated and sealed several, if not all, of gromthuls champions on this side of the mountain range, his sons currently allow their revival in their domains.
MC on the other hand is forced to utilize Guerilla battle tactics and negotiations in order to maintain a fragile stalement and unless he finds a way to free the half Orcs in Madra Khaz he has no way to strengthen the people of Rumah much further (sure he can give his 5 man weapons and armors eventually), but with these numbers there is noway they'd survive an attack on Madra Khaz.
All MCs action showing his individual strength are either covert or outdone as the faction he represents does so as weaklings.

She very likely is because Rumah was founded by Social Outcasts like Katharina and Tia, over time they created their own children and became more than a gathering of Outcasts (a tribe) but yes any Half Orc is mentioned to be unable to make a living or being threatened with death by abondenment of the unwilling mother or the community they are born into.
There is a reason for the tribe people hatred towards the civilized men.
Tia hates MOST people in Arenfield though, she is resilent enough to ignore it in order to stay alive or have a life, she inititally refuses to go to Rumah because she thought she had build something for herself in Arenfield even if she was never really accepted, she only went to Rumah on the pressure of her mother.
Sure about the polygamy I agree but it took her a while to accept Lyvia as battle companion either... not to mention Bianca.

I believe the King is either made believe or really believes that, but that aside an empty village is not providing to his domain, he also lacks an ambundance of people that could settle there fearing attacks from the previous inhabitants or not, at the point of open rebellion Arenfields usefullness turn into a liability and he'll consider himself forced to apply the hard hand on that.
Also I don't think the supply lines go by the northern route, If anything it seems to follow the southern route pushing all those bandits into the Southern area of Arenfield and the mill.
Burning the village and livelyhood of the rebells will crush their morale and sends a message to anyone trying to repeat this.

Damn that's some dark outlook... sadly I can't even deny this possibility being rather high.

But ignoreing the situation would be worse for him if the conflict keeps dragging on, also the woods are only north of arenfield, south of it there is wasteland and shallow mountains, while potentially also a great ambush terrain the seems to have secured the route already as all those Bandits in the southern maps are being pushed to Arenfield from the south.
That aside the King keeps increasing his troops at the frontline so he could still overhelm MCs mercaneries with the reinforcement he keeps getting, it would delay them but not force the King to reroute his main forces.
The woods have been offlimits duo to the Orcs preseence since MCs childhood and likely befoore, Katherine got raped because she ignored it out of greed (I know she had other motivations but if you boil it down to it's core she needed money and fast)... they don't know anything about the woods, I mean even Rick messed up the directions to that hut at Lake Lauren, which is still considered mostly save.
I agree on the logistical part, but there is no need to do it, like I said fight the forces IN the village, than burn it down to send a message, even if the majority of the people are hiding in the woods it's unlikely they can recover from that, the King could even expect the Orcs as his new allies to finish the job eventually.

Wait... since when do we have archers?
Our guys are armed with chainmail armor and swords, Rumah has archers alright but neither the Brigands nor our guys have them. Also I doubt the length of a military campaign... like I said all teh King needs to do is to send a message and leave the rest to time and the Orcs axpecting that the people of Arenfield will not be able to recover from such a loss.

I think the best we can hope is that MC isolates Darktholm from the rest of the Cult and the demon whorshipping as the people there are idealists, though they'd lack the resources and Power to keep themselfes alfoat, since the farmland is not usable for any of the crops they know. I think they might be able to build connection to Rumah, since by my gues, the people of Rumah are the Bastard children born from the survivng women of Darktholm, which were conquered by the Orcs in their counter attack. It would explain how such a big number of Half Orcs could be born in a single area in such a short time, that they later could create a tribe society within a single generation.

Imawyn needs to upkeep her magic and stated that the expansion of the camp is already far to taxing for her normally, unless we find a way to support her magic I doubt anything like this is possible.
There might be a chance to use the Raven and his experience in operating in the woods by constantly changeing base, but that is unfit for a larger group supporting refugees.

keep up your discussions. it gives more thought provoking ideas and deeper lore that i overlook because of my multiple playthroughs (barring NTR route).

 

[Crazy_Chameleon]

Well Nyra honestly seems to adopt Arianna pretty willingly. The impression I got was that she kind of enjoyed having someone to mother. And Nyra at this point is the ONLY force of dissention in Rumah. Also she's Dasans mother and has been ousted from an influensial position as the chieftains Wanita. And the tribe knows that. I get the feeling no one is really taking her seriously, I think personal resentment plays more of a role in her attitude than cultural resentment. And how her attitude contrasts to the entire rest of the village underscores that. Sure there's difficult times ahead. But any conflict wiould place them in the firing line between the orcs and Ardenfeld. Really think they're gonna pick the orcs?

Also any of the Rumah warriors can hunt which means they are at least competant archers. And just because your mercs are equipped for melee wouldn't mean much with any appreciable preparation time. The MC himself could train them. Melee troops carrying a bow is pretty standard for skirmishers expected to fight in a forest. That being said forming the archer corps would likeley be the role of Rumah's warriors in a fight. They lack the training to fight with armor. And getting them ready for that would take a lot of time and investment. Especially since they are already demonstrably competant hunters. Archers are a notoriously easy fighting force to equip and supply. A great value for money fighting force. Much easier than armored melee infantry. If Rumah expands it could naturally produce an extremely adept cadre of forest skirmishers.

 

[Baldy_Sinz]

Well Nyra honestly seems to adopt Arianna pretty willingly. The impression I got was that she kind of enjoyed having someone to mother. And Nyra at this point is the ONLY force of dissention in Rumah. Also she's Dasans mother and has been ousted from an influensial position as the chieftains Wanita. And the tribe knows that. I get the feeling no one is really taking her seriously, I think personal resentment plays more of a role in her attitude than cultural resentment. And how her attitude contrasts to the entire rest of the village underscores that. Sure there's difficult times ahead. But any conflict wiould place them in the firing line between the orcs and Ardenfeld. Really think they're gonna pick the orcs?

Also any of the Rumah warriors can hunt which means they are at least competant archers. And just because your mercs are equipped for melee wouldn't mean much with any appreciable preparation time. The MC himself could train them. Melee troops carrying a bow is pretty standard for skirmishers expected to fight in a forest. That being said forming the archer corps would likeley be the role of Rumah's warriors in a fight. They lack the training to fight with armor. And getting them ready for that would take a lot of time and investment. Especially since they are already demonstrably competant hunters. Archers are a notoriously easy fighting force to equip and supply. A great value for money fighting force. Much easier than armored melee infantry. If Rumah expands it could naturally produce an extremely adept cadre of forest skirmishers.

woah thats a great idea! MC training the mercs for archery or recruiting Corven to the mercenary camp for reasons like combating the cult or for his skills. For sure the mercs will be like the MC combat-wise

 

[Evangelion-01]

Well Nyra honestly seems to adopt Arianna pretty willingly. The impression I got was that she kind of enjoyed having someone to mother. And Nyra at this point is the ONLY force of dissention in Rumah. Also she's Dasans mother and has been ousted from an influensial position as the chieftains Wanita. And the tribe knows that. I get the feeling no one is really taking her seriously, I think personal resentment plays more of a role in her attitude than cultural resentment. And how her attitude contrasts to the entire rest of the village underscores that. Sure there's difficult times ahead. But any conflict wiould place them in the firing line between the orcs and Ardenfeld. Really think they're gonna pick the orcs?

Also any of the Rumah warriors can hunt which means they are at least competant archers. And just because your mercs are equipped for melee wouldn't mean much with any appreciable preparation time. The MC himself could train them. Melee troops carrying a bow is pretty standard for skirmishers expected to fight in a forest. That being said forming the archer corps would likeley be the role of Rumah's warriors in a fight. They lack the training to fight with armor. And getting them ready for that would take a lot of time and investment. Especially since they are already demonstrably competant hunters. Archers are a notoriously easy fighting force to equip and supply. A great value for money fighting force. Much easier than armored melee infantry. If Rumah expands it could naturally produce an extremely adept cadre of forest skirmishers.

I mean first of al they are lacking a shooting range before any training can be done, and again we lack space for this in the camp, anymore expansion seem to be impossible if we want to maintain Imawyns protection.
And there is also the posiibility it's not even there since recruiting her is optional.
Nyra has different motivations depending on her route and so have the villagers, they are pretty much blank slates reflecting the attitude of their chieftain, but noone is actually thrilled with their life... Nyra represents their disdain but neither her or them can say anything against fighting the Orcs, but consider the Christmas special, Nyra is pretty clear she will not stand and allow a bent in tradition, it takes alot of diplomacy and a "bribe" to warm her to the idea of atleast decorating the camp.
I think their own motivation and interest centers around on defeating the Orcs and stay alive, so they'll deal with the Orcs, while the Mercs deal with any civilized force, it's the MC that can juggle his forces so they achieve each their goals and stay alive.
We saw how the Rumah people reacted to the transformed Orc girls so there might be a future of combining tribes IF MC decides to transform the Orcs on this site of the mountain range, but reconnecting the tribes with the civilized people?
No I don't think they'd support this.

You know there is this fantasy discussion how Elfes are the worst imagination of the Fantasy People... why do I bring this up?
If you hunt in the forest you normally use short bows that work for short distances, but in warfare you'd want bigger distances between you and your enemies, in a Forest you have so many treelines to block your view reduceing your effective range and your enemies have as much cover by useing them, that archery is actually completly ineffective.
I agree on Rumah being better archers, afterall you can build 2 Towers dureing the first part of the Orc fight and they are VERY usefull to whittle the enemies down before they break the gate.
Also as far as I understand they are hunting with spears not bows, MC is also useing his Bows in a very short distance easily allowing him to switch to blade weapons without haveing to run up to the fighting Party for the next 2 Minutes.
Attacking from natural covers like slopes or the last tree line used to be standard for archers, but fight INSIDE a forrest is not.

 

[Crazy_Chameleon]

Okay I didn't read the whole thing but you're kinda reaching ab it now buddy. MC can build a whole house but he can't build a SHOOTING RANGE!?

And I've also stated that I am talking about optimal conditions for the MC of course there are many bad ways things can go if you make bad decisions.

And frankly I think you're destinction between 'the tribes' ANd 'civilized peoples' Is inaccurate. The people of Rumah and the Orcs ARE a civilized people. Refering to tribal cultures as 'uncivilized' is something you see a lot in old media. But it's really not something that has any basis in reality. If we look at intelligence in humans for example. Human intellect has not increased significantly since the stone age. The idea that Rumah and Adenfeld could not coexist just .. yeah no. The people of Rumah aren't even incapable of fitting in with humans. As Tia proves, Sure there's a culture conflict ahead but if you are looking at the situation in the USA as reference for that. That's not typical. And if both cultures have good leaders with good intentions then you won't get USA situation with lincolns assasination allowing his enemies to quietly undo most of his work. It's just their culture is different we're still the same species by every definition. Orcs are more of a problem because of their aggression and biology but we've already shown with Umah that this can be tempered. So I fail to see your point here.

And yes I know about forest fighting. Which is why I say that knowing the terrain and being the defender is the decisive advantage. They can strike from the edge of the forest and melt into it for cover. Sure they can't easily WIN but they are fucking impossible to actually remove. Just ask the USA with their little adventure in vietnam, All that tech, and numbers .. And in the end .. Well if the king wants his vietnam he can have it I guess. Right up until the usurper fucks him up the ass. And that's where the MC's leverage lies.

I think this discussion has about run it's course however.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Okay I didn't read the whole thing but you're kinda reaching ab it now buddy. MC can build a whole house but he can't build a SHOOTING RANGE!?

He can build a house since there is space in abundance... a shooting range wouldn't be harder than the training grounds... BUT he lacks a place to build it.

And frankly I think you're destinction between 'the tribes' ANd 'civilized peoples' Is inaccurate. The people of Rumah and the Orcs ARE a civilized people. Refering to tribal cultures as 'uncivilized' is something you see a lot in old media.

The people in Arenfield call them "Savages" and I wanted to avoid that other term I previously used as it seems for more insulting for all factions in hindsight.

The idea that Rumah and Adenfeld could not coexist just .. yeah no.

I never said they couldn't Coexist, but coexistence doesn't mean you fight their wars for them.

he people of Rumah aren't even incapable of fitting in with humans. As Tia proves, Sure there's a culture conflict ahead but if you are looking at the situation in the USA as reference for that. That's not typical. And if both cultures have good leaders with good intentions then you won't get USA situation with lincolns assasination allowing his enemies to quietly undo most of his work. It's just their culture is different we're still the same species by every definition. Orcs are more of a problem because of their aggression and biology but we've already shown with Umah that this can be tempered. So I fail to see your point here.

The people in Arenfield are splitted in their opinion of the People in Rumah, the older Generation like Emily are afraid of them as they consider them wild people like Orcs.
Younger people like Dave and Henry put them down to elevate themselfes while people like Rick and Arianne have no real opinion on them, and Arianna is even growing on to them since she joined their community and learned about their ways.
But the majority of the people in Arenfield are atleast wary of Rumahs population.
I am not sure wether Chyos took inspiration from the American society, but if you look at the people in Arenfield the majority rejects the idea of the people in Rumah being civilized... I don't wanne know what the people in Kirlic think about them... I wouldn't be surprised if the guys from the university have some anatomy class to determine their superriority compared to these wild people.

Orcs are more of a problem because of their aggression and biology but we've already shown with Umah that this can be tempered. So I fail to see your point here.

True... BUT the people in Arenfield aren't ware of them, human nature is to fear what you don't know or understand, and at the current point in history Rumah is a big unknown to the majority of the "civilized" humans.
I mean they don't even know that humanity evolved from Orcs and would very likely dismiss the idea as sacrileg.

And yes I know about forest fighting. Which is why I say that knowing the terrain and being the defender is the decisive advantage. They can strike from the edge of the forest and melt into it for cover. Sure they can't easily WIN but they are fucking impossible to actually remove. Just ask the USA with their little adventure in vietnam, All that tech, and numbers .. And in the end .. Well if the king wants his vietnam he can have it I guess. Right up until the usurper fucks him up the ass. And that's where the MC's leverage lies.

I doubt this will work as smoothly as you imagine it to be, the forest only meets the village at the northern parts, the Kings troups could easily shoot burning arrows towrds the most northern building to burn them down without getting in range of your potential archers hiding in the woods... I agree that this would be much more complicated if the goal was to conquer the village unharmed but I don't think the King has the luxury to even attempt this since as you say his true enemy is in the opposite direction.
Also the buildings at the northern edge will cover most of the village center from attacks or sight for any troop hiding in the woods. Emiliys home, the MCs home and the Inn are all atleast 2 floors high each
And the forest won't meet the Plateu with Girons Villa on it as far as I can tell, which makes hiding troops there for an easy escape rather hard.

I think this discussion has about run it's course however.

Might be right... was still fun to have this brainstorming session