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I'm sure this has been asked before. Do I need to start a new game to use the Chyos Cheat? I'm not too far into the game thankfully, but don't really want to start over.
you have some problem as me before, but you can just download the cheatmod on page 1
 
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i got a question how to do Sex Anal with Ayita in love route ? i notice u can corrupt her with cumwine , so do i need to corrupt her to do it ?
 

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I'm sure this has been asked before. Do I need to start a new game to use the Chyos Cheat? I'm not too far into the game thankfully, but don't really want to start over.
i dont think u need to start over , download the new version (game) put the cheat ( same version ) , transfer ur save files .. i think that will work, i am waiting for the compressed version to do it .
 

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He keeps adding new girls, at this rate the story with the existing ones will stagnate. Hopefully it doesn't turn into a game with too many characters with shallow content.
He probably won’t, I have faith in Chyos, he actually balanced in a good way main girls and side girls, giving his patrons the choice.
For now the only two characters I could say they are stagnant (even if they don’t feel incomplete) are Sabrina and Gwen (And also that girl with purple hair that is standing menacingly in front of her house)
 
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this game really need a galley section . pls consider this.
...why?
all scenes are repeatable in the game, the game isyour gallery
He probably won’t, I have faith in Chyos, he actually balanced in a good way main girls and side girls, giving his patrons the choice.
For now the only two characters I could say they are stagnant (even if they don’t feel incomplete) are Sabrina and Gwen (And also that girl with purple hair that is standing menacingly in front of her house)
Gwen is a hard selling point, the only way she won that one poll was because of the promise of magic skills and it's implementation when defeating Gurthak.
That "purple haired" girl will recieve an overhaul, Chyos wanted her to be an asian (or atleast asian looking) woman, once the main story advances more
 
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...why?
all scenes are repeatable in the game, the game isyour gallery

Gwen is a hard selling point, the only way she won that one poll was because of the promise of magic skills and it's implementation when defeating Gurthak.
That "purple haired" girl will recieve an overhaul, Chyos wanted her to be an asian (or atleast asian looking) woman, once the main story advances more
Interesting, I didn’t know that, so Anya (If that was her name) is from an east continent?
So she has some lore?
Or he just want to make her asian?
 

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Interesting, I didn’t know that, so Anya (If that was her name) is from an east continent?
So she has some lore?
Or he just want to make her asian?
Chyos only droped that she'll be involved with the Cult, yet not be a member.
Her Lore is what we already hear when we first talk to her.
She came from far away to look after her grandmother which pased away shortly after and she simply remained in Arenfield ever since.
In this world Asian doesn't need to mean east or from a different continent, but given the restrictions on travel humanity had in these ages (and magic is largely considered bad in the game society, Sabrina's parents were killed since the director of her university framed them as witch and witcher) she couldn't be from that far and likely doesn't have enough money to return home.
We don't know anything about her occupation which she would require to raise funds (for her homecomeing) and pay her taxes.
Maybe she even is only half asian as a sailor from afar impregnated her mother whom lived in a harbor town of this land
 
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Chyos only droped that she'll be involved with the Cult, yet not be a member.
Her Lore is what we already hear when we first talk to her.
She came from far away to look after her grandmother which pased away shortly after and she simply remained in Arenfield ever since.
In this world Asian doesn't need to mean east or from a different continent, but given the restrictions on travel humanity had in these ages (and magic is largely considered bad in the game society, Sabrina's parents were killed since the director of her university framed them as witch and witcher) she couldn't be from that far and likely doesn't have enough money to return home.
We don't know anything about her occupation which she would require to raise funds (for her homecomeing) and pay her taxes.
Maybe she even is only half asian as a sailor from afar impregnated her mother whom lived in a harbor town of this land
Oooh thanks a bunch Eva, when the new update will come, I will rewatch every bit of lore
 

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why i can't kill gurtak, if i spell cast on him , the quest not finish yet
The oupost Gurthak commands is not the main base of the Orcs... that one will be included with the next Raaisha update.
enslaveing Gurthak likely will offer a chance to use him against that camp, and likely will result in his death... or the MC will finish him after he is no longer useful for us
 

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Bull ...

This time you have no idea what you're talking about ... Treasure of Nadia has had 0 bugs with patch updates and only patch updates. There are other examples of that too.

You are just being you're usual self .. contrary :)

in any case, he can use the x.x.5 updates for bug hunting and the release for an update :)
I'm not sure what you mean about there being 0 bugs with patch updates and only patch updates for ToN. You mean bugs showing up in the patch updates only, and that don't show up in the full download or through the launcher? I admit, I have not heard of any such bugs specific to the patch updates, so this is true. But of course, there are often bugs with the updates, whether one downloads the patch or the full new version of the game.

TON is linear true, still it has scripts and checks (an rpgm thing), and I used that as an example there are other rpgm games with multiple options and paths that are "patch updated" .. and oh he cannot be "mostly right" here since his premise is wrong to begin with, TON is not a VN game made in renpy :)

As long as you include the updated libraries, exe and files it will work.

Still my point stands, it's an rpgm game not renpy ... LMAO (the process is similar, since it's the same 'game engine' )
I think that Evangelion was somewhat right, just not with respect to whether ToN is a Ren'Py VN or an RPGM game (its certainly an RPGM game, not even properly referred to as a VN).

Regarding his point about update issues, with ToN, we sometimes have ppl in the NLT discord who have problems with their game because they skipped an update. In that case, they have to go back and download the full game all over again, even if one just one update was missed at some point. This is certainly a concern for ASWS. Chyos was trying to move saves to a folder outside of the game folder because ppl often complain to him about having issues with saves carrying over. Doing a patch release could just become another source of headaches for him with ppl complaining about bugs that showed because they didn't keep up with the updates. Part of the problem with this, and the really biggest concern, is that ppl report bugs without explaining that they missed an update. So now Chyos runs around trying to figure out how the bug happened, and then finds out it was because of a missed update. Big waste of time for Chyos.

About Evangelion's other two points, I am not sure. Evangelion made a point about update patches taking more space than just downloading a new full version each time and deleting the old one. I don't know exactly why this would be the case, but I'm guessing it won't be that much more data, so I'm not concerned about it anyway. The other point he made is that update patches can introduce new bugs specific to them as update patches. I'm not sure why this should be the case, as I didn't understand the reasoning for this. Perhaps Evangelion could explain that one better.

Having said the above, I am sympathetic with the patch update idea, as I do patch updates with ToN and its nice and easy and quick. As I said, my only real concern with this is ppl reporting bugs due to missing an update and wasting Chyos's time. Maybe there could be an easy way to identify those bugs separately from other bugs, I don't know.
 
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i got a question how to do Sex Anal with Ayita in love route ? i notice u can corrupt her with cumwine , so do i need to corrupt her to do it ?
I'm not aware of anal content for Ayita. Is this available in the NTR route if the whole village can fuck her? As far as her lover route is concerned, there is no anal content yet.
 

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About Evangelion's other two points, I am not sure. Evangelion made a point about update patches taking more space than just downloading a new full version each time and deleting the old one. I don't know exactly why this would be the case, but I'm guessing it won't be that much more data, so I'm not concerned about it anyway. The other point he made is that update patches can introduce new bugs specific to them as update patches. I'm not sure why this should be the case, as I didn't understand the reasoning for this. Perhaps Evangelion could explain that one better.
If you want to or even have to reinstall the game you need to have access to the latest full version and than every Updatearchieve until you reach the Uptodate Version... miss even a single one and you'll get errors.
Most Updates have the tendency to change a few lines in specific files, DL a complete Version hencefor is normally smaller than haveing a number of Updates that contain the same file only slightly altered. (each Update file might be less than the Fullversion, but those archieves will accumulate on your disk, which in turn will require more space than a fullversion DL)

Apply Updates in the wrong order and you'll also create errors as files will miss lines.
Also packaging several specific files instead of a full folder requires either Update management or some extra time, which we all should know by now is not available for Chyos.

All in all makeing a game release around Updates requires additional management and organistation work from the Dev for absolutely no benefit in regards to the game.
 
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If you want or have to reinstall the game you need to have access to the latest full version and than every Updatearchieve until you reach the Uptodate Version... miss even a single one and you'll get errors.
Most Updates have the tendency to change a few lines in specific files, DL a complete Version hencefor is normally smaller than haveing a number of Updates that contain the same file only slightly altered.
For the data size thing, I don't really understand this point. When the update is applied, it just replaces the old file with an updated file, if a few lines were added and/or deleted. It's not as if the file gets multiplied by the number of update patches applied.

As for reinstalling the game, I know that NLT, at least, offers both the full version and the update patch for each update. The update patch should only be applied to the previous full version, not to the new full version. So it's not that a full version is published, and then only update patches after that, that get added on. A new full version is also released every time.

As for missing an update patch and then using a later update patch, I mentioned this issue myself in my previous post as one that causes bugs, so I understand that point. It's a real concern that players might skip an update and then complain about bugs caused by the fact that they missed an update, without mentioning that they missed an update when they started reporting their bugs after applying the latest update patch.
 

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For the data size thing, I don't really understand this point. When the update is applied, it just replaces the old file with an updated file, if a few lines were added and/or deleted. It's not as if the file gets multiplied by the number of update patches applied.
It seems we are operating this with different assumptions.
I am talking about the user keeping a backup of the archives he DLed in order to restore the game in case of an issue destroying his game, like an overzealus AV or a OC based hickup destroying vital files.
Or maybe a Person applying a mod learning it's not compatibel and being forced to reinstall the entire game as seperation from the mod is not possible (we witnessed both scenarios in this thread multiple times)
As for reinstalling the game, I know that NLT, at least, offers both the full version and the update patch for each update. The update patch should only be applied to the previous full version, not to the new full version. So it's not that a full version is published, and then only update patches after that, that get added on. A new full version is also released every time.
Creating 2 different Updates and than Upload them takes time... again, something that's never enough with the latest builds... it might be feasible if you have several people working on this and useing different internet connections to Upload multiple files to different Hosters or haveing a single person being dedicated to that single task even, a single person can spend an entire day with such a task (Chyos only Uploads game files to 2 Hosters at different times dureing the day of release)
 
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