RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[Samsul Hidayat]

When Kate brings up pregnancy and birth control, even when you are on a total purity route, do not let her dance, do not let her wear skimpy clothing, she has no corruption and the MC has an extremely low corruption score (I think mine is at 33 or so, dubbing it the Saint route) - she still has an inner monologue where she brings up: "But what if I fuck around with other guys, should I ask them to provide the birth control or use my own?".

Hold on, your Kate says shit like that? I either never pay attention or have never had that happened to me.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Hold on, your Kate says shit like that? I either never pay attention or have never had that happened to me.

You likely didn't play her NTR path as he does

 

[Ottoeight]

Since I finished my new gameplay and I completed everything,

here you are my...

ASwS Supplementary Notes to the Walkthrough

1) the cheatbook IS on your table in your house since the very beginning - grab it when you grab your bow;

2) your alignment goes down from 50 to 49 at the end of the Intro - I guess it happens when you help Kate and give her ring back.

3) How to raise your alignment (more corruption): +1 if steal a log after midnight; +1 if you steal a bottle of wine.
Moreover, when you cut wood with Tia: if Tia's corruption is 0 and you try removing her clothes, she will knock you down and your corruption will rise (+1 alignment).

4) you'd better ask Frisha and learn sewing as soon as you get your home back: craft anything you can and equip because they're very useful items.

Emily's quest - FIRST rescue mission:
- if you need money, every morning Mira will give you the money she collects for the ransom; first time she gave me 20 silver coins, then I went to rescue Emily;
- enter the shed - if you kill the bandit +1 alignment, if you don't kill him -1 alignment. There are 5 gold coins (if I remember well) in the chest under the bed;
- after you find the camp, go back to Lyvia and tell her: she will give you 3 gold coins. Now, get back to the camp and wait for the night.

Tia's quest:
Time to settle down in Rumah:
- if you give cumwine to Hiba, +1 alignment;
- you can't "buy" ropes using the cheatbook, therefore buy a lot of ropes from Lucius before finding the old chieftain inside the well and triggering the first "orc war" - you need a lot of wood, nails, ropes, wine, copper bars.

Lyvia's:
- bandit camp, after you rescue Lyvia: pick up panflute and shovel;
- garrison's barracks: if you steal money, +1 alignment.

John's quest - the mine:
- if you bury the dead soldier outside mine: -1 alignment;
- after you sent your mercenaries: if you are with Lyvia and you order to burn the dead corpses Lyvia's affection will rise;
- you will find a jade in a chest in the mine.

Raaisha's quest - while searching for Orcs village:
- if you find out Dasaan's tent and kill him: if you bury him, then alignment -5.

Rumah Village: Umah's quest
At a certain point - if I remember well, it's after you build Umah's tent - when you talk to Umin and you ask for a new bow he will answer you that you have to build a workshop for him and a storage building in the clearing.
So build them: Umin will make weapons in the workshop and you will store 40 wood/food/and so on.

Umin will be able to make a powerful new bow for you, but he will need 4 intestines of a plague fiend. Mind you: you can't have them using the cheatbook, so you must kill the plague fiends and collect them!

Corven's quest:
- Corven will teach you PIN SHOT fighting technique when you reach 7 talent points in hunting.
- Corven will teach you POISONED ARROW when you reach talent 9 in hunting;
- Corven will teach you DOUBLE SHOT when you reach talent 10 in hunting.

Liandra's quest:
- when you steal soap: alignment +1


Hidden bonus enemies:

In october (10th month) you will see pumpkins everywhere. Go to the swamp, enter the cave - in NE corner you will find a strange pumpkin.
Touch it and you will fight The Ancient One (lvl 48!!) and 2 plague fiends (lvl 26): so be prepared and come with Lyvia and Tia.
Kill 'em all: you will gain 16000 xp points + spoils. Touch the Ancient One's corpse and you will get Vexx's Ring: equip it as an accessory.

In december (12th month) at Forest Ruins you'll find a Xmas tree near the pond. You need to be with Tia: she will cut it down (you'll get elderwood and potions).
The Krampus will appear: it's lvl 57, so be there with Lyvia too!! Kill it and you will get 6000 xp points + spoils + Winter's Axe (for Tia, of course) + a parchment (a message from Chyos).

 

[RevGen10]

WRONG... as you just said you didn't pay her debt... THAT's the trigger... corruption only affects the dialogues.

It's not really a question of realism or capacity... I mean so far noone called you out for misspelling the Devs name each time you mention him... sometimes even in different writings within the same post.
EDIT: Allright now someone else did... didn't refresh the site in time apparently.
Chyos included NTR as a choice the MC has to make, corrupted or not, all examples you have given is for the NTR path, disregarding the none NTR path... what we keep telling you is that Corruption doesn't change the way the girls acts around, you choose the NTR path she will behave accordingly.
Corruption only changes how she speaks about things, that Frisha is not haveing Sex with Grant if her corruption is 0 seems more like a bug now.

I just checked the event. corruption just changes the initial dialogue but it still ends in ntr regardless.

 

[RevGen10]

Since I finished my new gameplay and I completed everything,

here you are my...

ASwS Supplementary Notes to the Walkthrough

1) the cheatbook IS on your table in your house since the very beginning - grab it when you grab your bow;

2) your alignment goes down from 50 to 49 at the end of the Intro - I guess it happens when you help Kate and give her ring back.

3) How to raise your alignment (more corruption): +1 if steal a log after midnight; +1 if you steal a bottle of wine.
Moreover, when you cut wood with Tia: if Tia's corruption is 0 and you try removing her clothes, she will knock you down and your corruption will rise (+1 alignment).

4) you'd better ask Frisha and learn sewing as soon as you get your home back: craft anything you can and equip because they're very useful items.

Emily's quest - FIRST rescue mission:
- if you need money, every morning Mira will give you the money she collects for the ransom; first time she gave me 20 silver coins, then I went to rescue Emily;
- enter the shed - if you kill the bandit +1 alignment, if you don't kill him -1 alignment. There are 5 gold coins (if I remember well) in the chest under the bed;
- after you find the camp, go back to Lyvia and tell her: she will give you 3 gold coins. Now, get back to the camp and wait for the night.

Tia's quest:
Time to settle down in Rumah:
- if you give cumwine to Hiba, +1 alignment;
- you can't "buy" ropes using the cheatbook, therefore buy a lot of ropes from Lucius before finding the old chieftain inside the well and triggering the first "orc war" - you need a lot of wood, nails, ropes, wine, copper bars.

Lyvia's:
- bandit camp, after you rescue Lyvia: pick up panflute and shovel;
- garrison's barracks: if you steal money, +1 alignment.

John's quest - the mine:
- if you bury the dead soldier outside mine: -1 alignment;
- after you sent your mercenaries: if you are with Lyvia and you order to burn the dead corpses Lyvia's affection will rise;
- you will find a jade in a chest in the mine.

Raaisha's quest - while searching for Orcs village:
- if you find out Dasaan's tent and kill him: if you bury him, then alignment -5.

Rumah Village: Umah's quest
At a certain point - if I remember well, it's after you build Umah's tent - when you talk to Umin and you ask for a new bow he will answer you that you have to build a workshop for him and a storage building in the clearing.
So build them: Umin will make weapons in the workshop and you will store 40 wood/food/and so on.

Umin will be able to make a powerful new bow for you, but he will need 4 intestines of a plague fiend. Mind you: you can't have them using the cheatbook, so you must kill the plague fiends and collect them!

Corven's quest:
- Corven will teach you PIN SHOT fighting technique when you reach 7 talent points in hunting.
- Corven will teach you POISONED ARROW when you reach talent 9 in hunting;
- Corven will teach you DOUBLE SHOT when you reach talent 10 in hunting.

Liandra's quest:
- when you steal soap: alignment +1


Hidden bonus enemies:

In october (10th month) you will see pumpkins everywhere. Go to the swamp, enter the cave - in NE corner you will find a strange pumpkin.
Touch it and you will fight The Ancient One (lvl 48!!) and 2 plague fiends (lvl 26): so be prepared and come with Lyvia and Tia.
Kill 'em all: you will gain 16000 xp points + spoils. Touch the Ancient One's corpse and you will get Vexx's Ring: equip it as an accessory.

In december (12th month) at Forest Ruins you'll find a Xmas tree near the pond. You need to be with Tia: she will cut it down (you'll get elderwood and potions).
The Krampus will appear: it's lvl 57, so be there with Lyvia too!! Kill it and you will get 6000 xp points + spoils + Winter's Axe (for Tia, of course) + a parchment (a message from Chyos).

you could add the prophet too. the enemy in the cult hideout under the forest ruins. after you flee with arianna you can come back and clear the place out.

 

[zARRR]

Super relevant to the conversation the fact that I spelled the name of the game developer right or wrong. This already demonstrates that you are not an adult. Only a child would waste time on that. And it only looks like a bug because you want to. I recommend that when my theories don't conspire with yours, spare me your comments. You are visibly not polite and speak as if you own the truth. You are a mere member and not the developer. The truth is not yours, but his and his alone. So, I kindly ask you to leave me here talking my nonsense because some unlike you agree and enjoy it.

My man, we just corrected you on the corruption side and you are making a tantrum, even you focusing on the name issue which Eva didn’t even care much about it, while neglecting his entire point, being as polite as possible.
We are not talking about theories and such but mechanics, and Frisha with or without the corruption has sex with Grant if you don’t pay the debt.
You can talk philosophically all you want, about truth this, truth that, Plato, Plotinus, Perry the platypus but when it crumbles in front of the reality of the thing, it’s useless.
After all as you said it’s a democratic and public place this one, can’t have opinions and facts here?

 

[RamirezRJBR]

My man, we just corrected you on the corruption side and you are making a tantrum, even you focusing on the name issue which Eva didn’t even care much about it, while neglecting his entire point, being as polite as possible.
We are not talking about theories and such but mechanics, and Frisha with or without the corruption has sex with Grant if you don’t pay the debt.
You can talk philosophically all you want, about truth this, truth that, Plato, Plotinus, Perry the platypus but when it crumbles in front of the reality of the thing, it’s useless.
After all as you said it’s a democratic and public place this one, can’t have opinions and facts here?

If I don't pay the debt she won't have sex with Grant if I'm in a serious relationship with her and she's not corrupt. I tested. And there is the testimony of another player stating the same here. However, you are the holders of the truth and you deny our claims. The problem is not denying, but offending and ridiculing how the other did to me calling me stupid and how you are doing now. Who talked about philosophy here? Do you want to be funny in your comment? That's it? If you don't agree with me why don't you just shut up like any polite person? Why do you love to come here and be toxic with us? Is the intention to spoil the community?

 

[Yotetar]

I dont know why there is a "fucking war" about frisha and her debt.

I admit that the bonus scene was made poorly on terms of mechanics, but poorly, poorly. He focused more on giving Grant an orgasm than the point of debt.

If Frisha is loyal to you(she said that) and you are in the love route. With corruption or not, she should still be loyal to you, with debt or no debt, or at least ask you if you allow to repay him in body.That' was poorly made, and could be a point where Frisha could grow up as a character, working hard to pay the debt, not being a whore.But that's just not what happened, you pull the switch, and fuck the history and all that you just build with her.

If She is a whore and you go corruption route, then it makes sense.

On the other hand at that state Ipay the debt because I dont give a fuck. I am swimming in gold.

 

[RamirezRJBR]

I dont know why there is a "fucking war" about frisha and her debt.

I admit that the bonus scene was made poorly on terms of mechanics, but poorly, poorly. He focused more on giving Grant an orgasm than the point of debt.

If Frisha is loyal to you(she said that) and you are in the love route. With corruption or not, she should still be loyal to you, with corruption or no corruption, or at least ask you if you allow to repay him in body.That' was poorly made, and could be a point where Frisha could grow up as a character, working hard to pay the debt, not being a whore.But that's just not what happened, you pull the switch, and fuck the history and all that you just build with her.

If She is a whore and you go corruption route, then it makes sense.

On the other hand at that state Ipay the debt because I dont give a fuck. I am swimming in gold.

Sorry about the "war". I'm a peaceful guy, but I get irritated by unnecessary jokes and sarcasm. It doesn't add anything. Yes, once Frisha is on the love route with the MC and even though he says he won't repay the debt, she will talk to Grant and not have sex with him. The scene has to be improved and have an ending because she keeps going to Grant's room, talking, talking, doesn't pay the debt and also doesn't have sex. This goes on indefinitely.

 

[RevGen10]

anyways, I took another look at the event. if corruption is less than 10 and you're currently in a relationship with frisha, she will reject grant. if you're not in a relationship with her, then she will have the scene with grant. However if you are in a relationship it should not be happening at frisha corruption of 1 though.

edit: variables could use a bit of cleaning up.

 

[Ottoeight]

you could add the prophet too. the enemy in the cult hideout under the forest ruins. after you flee with arianna you can come back and clear the place out.

Yep. After you kill the Prophet you'll get a mysterious, very powerful and most likely cursed sword: therefore I didn't dare to equip Lyvia with it.

 

[Yotetar]

Then the point is what I listed above, the poorly desing on this particular bonus scene by the Dev, nothing more.

And no, it should not be attached how high is your corruption with her, but more on what critical decision you made with her in the past. Like being his boyfriend, and saving him from Dave.
When you fuck her with Emily, she says:"I am a slut, but a loyal slut" That means a lot.
So no, everyone can discuss whatever they want.But you cannot destroy everything you build with her for just 20 gold. That was poorly design, and should be fixed.

If people think I am wrong in that, then make better solid arguments than me.Because you will find that I am right.

 

[RevGen10]

Then the point is what I listed above, the poorly desing on this particular bonus scene by the Dev, nothing more.

And no, it should not be attached how high is your corruption with her, but more on what critical decision you made with her in the past. Like being his boyfriend, and saving him from Dave.
When you fuck her with Emily, she says:"I am a slut, but a loyal slut" That means a lot.
So no, everyone can discuss whatever they want.But you cannot destroy everything you build with her for just 20 gold. That was poorly design, and should be fixed.

If people think I am wrong in that, then make better solid arguments than me.Because you will find that I am right.

it's one of the reasons why I refuse to do any of the ntr scenes. either the mc acts pathetic and has to lose for the scene to trigger or he has to sell out the women and not help them (emily, kate, frisha, etc)

 

[Ottoeight]

Sorry about the "war". I'm a peaceful guy, but I get irritated by unnecessary jokes and sarcasm. It doesn't add anything. Yes, once Frisha is on the love route with the MC and even though he says he won't repay the debt, she will talk to Grant and not have sex with him. The scene has to be improved and have an ending because she keeps going to Grant's room, talking, talking, doesn't pay the debt and also doesn't have sex. This goes on indefinitely.

The point is still the same, anyway. Any chick - unless you lose a fight - won't cuck you unless you want to be cucked.

My Frisha has corruption 27, and when my MC has sex with her and Emily, as Yotetar just pointed out, she explains Emily that she hadn't sex with anyone but MC, because even though she's a slut, nonetheless she is "a loyal slut".

 

[Yotetar]

Well then, you know what to tell Chyos, if you want.

 

[RevGen10]

The point is still the same, anyway. Any chick - unless you lose a fight - won't cuck you unless you want to be cucked.

My Frisha has corruption 27, and when my MC has sex with her and Emily, as Yotetar just pointed out, she explains Emily that she hadn't sex with anyone but MC, because even though she's a slut, nonetheless she is "a loyal slut".

yep. you literally have to fail at helping her to pay off the debt before it becomes an issue.

 

[RamirezRJBR]

Then the point is what I listed above, the poorly desing on this particular bonus scene by the Dev, nothing more.

And no, it should not be attached how high is your corruption with her, but more on what critical decision you made with her in the past. Like being his boyfriend, and saving him from Dave.
When you fuck her with Emily, she says:"I am a slut, but a loyal slut" That means a lot.
So no, everyone can discuss whatever they want.But you cannot destroy everything you build with her for just 20 gold. That was poorly design, and should be fixed.

If people think I am wrong in that, then make better solid arguments than me.Because you will find that I am right.

I totally agree with you. I also think that once the path of love is established, there should be no infidelity (regardless of corruption). However, a specific amount of corruption changed the outcome, and we've seen it modify the mechanics that we were familiar with. Like you, I agree that the game should be patched to match the rest of the game mechanics. Either the DEV admits that corruption only modifies the sex scenes between MCs and girls, or he admits that it will now interfere with their decision-making as well.

 

[Yotetar]

By the way, If people think: "sure, you criticize but no solutions", here is one:
- Frisha goes to work with Verena to earn 1 piece of gold every week,this will teach her how to be a better tailor, help Verena with his business, and get an income.

This also opens a possibility to more bonus scenes with Verena Arianna and NTR.

 

[RamirezRJBR]

The point is still the same, anyway. Any chick - unless you lose a fight - won't cuck you unless you want to be cucked.

My Frisha has corruption 27, and when my MC has sex with her and Emily, as Yotetar just pointed out, she explains Emily that she hadn't sex with anyone but MC, because even though she's a slut, nonetheless she is "a loyal slut".

On the path of love. If my theory is correct, if you don't pay the debt, she will have sex with Grant because she has high corruption. However, if you have Frisha with zero corruption, even if you don't pay the debt, she enters Grant's quant, but doesn't have sex with him. That's what happened to me. I was all proud. The MC himself thinks she has changed and is impressed by her attitude.

 

[Ottoeight]

it's one of the reasons why I refuse to do any of the ntr scenes. either the mc acts pathetic and has to lose for the scene to trigger or he has to sell out the women and not help them (emily, kate, frisha, etc)

Anyway, sharing and cucking are very different "things". Sharing Kate with Rick in the barn and sharing Verena with Old Pal Rod (MC's future father-in-law in my gameplay for sure ) isn't "selling them out".

I totally agree with you. I also think that once the path of love is established, there should be no infidelity (regardless of corruption). However, a specific amount of corruption changed the outcome, and we've seen it modify the mechanics that we were familiar with. Like you, I agree that the game should be patched to match the rest of the game mechanics. Either the DEV admits that corruption only modifies the sex scenes between MCs and girls, or he admits that it will now interfere with their decision-making as well.

Well, he created tons and tons and tons of events, by now. I don't think it's fair judging him for a single event.
He might reconsider it, anyway.

Nonetheless, I don't think it's a problem: I guess anybody who's playing a NON-NTR gameplay just saved, watched the scene, puked and regretted, then reloaded, payed Frisha's debt and moved on.