RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[dasvfdfs]

Is even worth doing the Mayor debt guest or just ignore?

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

Is even worth doing the Mayor debt guest or i just ignored?

ignore it, there is another way to remove the debt though another quest.

Spoiler: In case you want to know which quest it is

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[Evangelion-01]

Is even worth doing the Mayor debt guest or just ignore?

Completing that Quest will allow you to enter your house again, where you can craft armors, it also greatly increase your reputation in Arenfield.
I'd say early on this makes a great difference and you shouldn't do Lyvia's Quest until your MC is atleast Level 30, has the best armor and weapons he can make and have Tia with you with simmiliar to same conditions

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

Completing that Quest will allow you to enter your house again, where you can craft armors, it also greatly increase your reputation in Arenfield.
I'd say early on this makes a great difference and you shouldn't do Lyvia's Quest until your MC is atleast Level 30, has the best armor and weapons he can make and have Tia with you with simmiliar to same conditions

I did her quest at like level 20(maybe even lower, honestly) with full leather armor on everyone, it's not so hard you need to be level 30. Picklocking you house at midnight and creating the armor is far better, then spending 20 gold on paying for access to your house you can get for free for doing her quest(+ the rest of the benefits of doing her quests).

with Tia getting you elderwood you can even just straight up buy all the leather types you need, and as a safe measure you can upgrade each piece as well.

 

[Samsul Hidayat]

Is even worth doing the Mayor debt guest or just ignore?

You can lockpick your house, but only at midnight. Time limiting, I know, but I refuse to give Giron any money.

He'll relief you of your debt after you send 5 Mercs to guard Arenfield.

 

[Deleted member 5074784]

The whole corruption debate is still going on?

1. There are routes based on your decisions
2. Corruption typically affects dialogue and unlocks extra scenes like anal, threesomes and public sex. Having looked at the game files, the highest corruption that can alter dialogue is 25-30. Beyond that, it does nothing.
3a. Some NTR scenes are gated behind corruption so even if you pursue the ntr route, nothing will happen if corruption is not high enough
3b. No matter how corrupt a girl is, there is no ntr as long as you, the player, don't make the choices that lead to ntr.
4. Each girl also has a "likes NTR" tracker associated with them and the more NTR scenes you do the more willing they are to engage in NTR (this especially affects Kate).

Regardless and in summation, it is still your choice in everything that happens. You can also choose to not corrupt anyone if you want, just take strong anesthetic (though this will lock you out of a lot of content)

Corruption as what has been stated multiple times simply lowers their inhibition as well as making them more sexually active. This is why on certain love routes a higher corruption is required in order to break their resistance to cheating on the MC. If there is some unforeseen downside to corrupting them (which is not NTR because again that is driven by player choice) I don't see that as going over well because pretty much everyone corrupts the characters in order to access more scenes. The entire theme of the game is corruption so that is very unlikely to happen.

I wrote this quickly so there might be some errors in logic but the people who are going to understand will understand and the people who don't won't ever be happy so.

Anything that has the potential to bring another dick into the situation gets people riled up. While the MC fucking everything that moves is fine obviously.

 

[zARRR]

You can lockpick your house, but only at midnight. Time limiting, I know, but I refuse to give Giron any money.

He'll relief you of your debt after you send 5 Mercs to guard Arenfield.

The beauty of Giron’s debts are that you can always fuck him.
Fuck him by being a mercenary leader
Fuck him by building an orphanage
Fuck him by fucking his wife
And yet we still haven’t seen the best

 

[Ottoeight]

You can lockpick your house, but only at midnight. Time limiting, I know, but I refuse to give Giron any money.

He'll relief you of your debt after you send 5 Mercs to guard Arenfield.

Very Bad Idea.

I did her quest at like level 20(maybe even lower, honestly) with full leather armor on everyone, it's not so hard you need to be level 30. Picklocking you house at midnight and creating the armor is far better, then spending 20 gold on paying for access to your house you can get for free for doing her quest(+ the rest of the benefits of doing her quests).

with Tia getting you elderwood you can even just straight up buy all the leather types you need, and as a safe measure you can upgrade each piece as well.

As they've already told you:

paying your debt will raise your reputation.

SECONDLY, paying your debts is A QUEST ITSELF. Everytime you complete a quest you gain xp points. At lower levers completing a quest IS A LOT OF XP POINTS. So, pay your fucking debts.

Thirdly, you should get your house back as soon as possible because you'd better learn sewing from Frisha early.

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

Very Bad Idea.




As they've already told you:

paying your debt will raise your reputation.

SECONDLY, paying your debts is A QUEST ITSELF. Everytime you complete a quest you gain xp points. At lower levers completing a quest IS A LOT OF XP POINTS. So, pay your fucking debts.

Thirdly, you should get your house back as soon as possible because you'd better learn sewing from Frisha early.

1. we don't know how import it is yet, so can't really rely on it as "be all".

2. exp can be farmed, and you'll gain much more exp by just straight up doing the quest I mentioned.

3. the house can be lockpicked, which again is a lot cheaper early game then paying 20 gold. By the time you build up the 20 gold you can finish up multiple quests, get full leather set for everyone and buy enough materials to upgrade said set with all the plates you need. This is your weakest point, as both methods allow you to create it.

Your strongest point is the reputation, but until I see a reason why it's important and why missing 1 point of it is important I don't see why when someone asks "can I skip paying my debt" my only answer should be "think of your reputation"

 

[zARRR]

1. we don't know how import it is yet, so can't really rely on it as "be all".

2. exp can be farmed, and you'll gain much more exp by just straight up doing the quest I mentioned.

3. the house can be lockpicked, which again is a lot cheaper early game then paying 20 gold. By the time you build up the 20 gold you can finish up multiple quests, get full leather set for everyone and buy enough materials to upgrade said set with all the plates you need. This is your weakest point, as both methods allow you to create it.

Your strongest point is the reputation, but until I see a reason why it's important and why missing 1 point of it is important I don't see why when someone asks "can I skip paying my debt" my only answer should be "think of your reputation"

For now reputation unlocks some special options, mostly with Giron letting you do stuff, like giving more time to Emily for paying her debt

 

[Raoddik]

And yet we still haven’t see the best

That's way I still didn't decide with path to chose for Frisha.

 

[Samsul Hidayat]

WEAPONS:

what you got if you completed everything in 0.5.0.0

remember:

MC can use daggers and bows
Lyvia can use swords
Tia can use axes

You can craft:

- copper, bronze, silver, iron, shadowstone swords/axes/daggers.

Shadowstone weapons are made with shadow jewels. You can find shadow jewels in chests in the dungeon under the church (Church's quest): you have to open them using keys dropped by Syfa or obtain them by giving food and petting your cat.

You can find/obtain:

SWORDS:
- rusty swords (dropped or lost by orcs)
- Tainted Dawnbreaker (by killing the Prophet in Arianna's quest)
- Hekima's sword (by defeating Hekima, Anya's stepfather)

AXES:
- Chieftain's Axe (by defeating the Orc Chieftain, Umah's father)
- Winter's Axe (by killing The Krampus, hidden bonus december monster)

DAGGERS:
- Marcus' dagger

BOWS:
- your bow
- reinforced bow (made by Umin in Rumah)
- Voxdeorum's bow (found it in a chest under the cultists' church in Arianna's quest)
- Elderwood bow (made by Umin in Rumah)

ACCESSORIES:
- Jodarr's ring (found it while digging Penny's field)
- Vexx's ring (by killing The Ancient One, hidden bonus october monster)
- leather belts (by killing southern bandits)

GEMSTONES:
- shadow jewels (inside chests in the dungeon under the church)
- jade (in the mine and inside chests in the dungeon under the church)
- tennlooite (inside chests in the dungeon under the church)

Is it just me, or Jodarr's Ring has a level requirement to be worn now? MC is level 20 and has learned Witchcraft yet he still can't wear it.

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

For now reputation unlocks some special options, mostly with Giron letting you do stuff, like giving more time to Emily for paying her debt

I know, but I didn't pay my debt and still been able to do that(just did Livya quest). Not to mention by the time I did get to Emily quest I was able to outright pay her debt if I wanted, but opt to again save my money and extend the time.

I agree reputation could very important, but right now? it's not needed to the point where you need to expend all resources to get it. If I've been blocked due to having low rep during my playthrough I would 100% say that paying your debt is far better choice, but I haven't. And even then the key word is "choice", when someone asks if they can skip it(because now we get into "optimal gameplay choice").

If you do Emily quest before getting rep some other way? That's on the player, not the game. So in that case get the money pay the debt and do Emily quest earlier.

 

[zARRR]

I know, but I didn't pay my debt and still been able to do that(just did Livya quest). Not to mention by the time I did get to Emily quest I was able to outright pay her debt if I wanted, but opt to again save my money and extend the time.

I agree reputation could very important, but right now? it's not needed to the point where you need to expend all resources to get it. If I've been blocked due to having low rep during my playthrough I would 100% say that paying your debt is far better choice, but I haven't. And even then the key word is "choice", when someone asks if they can skip it(because now we get into "optimal gameplay choice").

If you do Emily quest before getting rep some other way? That's on the player, not the game. So in that case get the money pay the debt and do Emily quest earlier.

I know too, who the frick wants to pay a fat ass mayor abuser?
Xp ain’t worth this time imo, That’s the beauty of the game as you said, choice.
Player reputation is weird, for now it’s used only in few moments.
Not to mention that you can gain automatically after dome days reputation of you have the mercenaries at Arenfield

 

[Heavy Sleeper]

I know too, who the frick wants to pay a fat ass mayor abuser?
Xp ain’t worth this time imo, That’s the beauty of the game as you said, choice.
Player reputation is weird, for now it’s used only in few moments.
Not to mention that you can gain automatically after dome days reputation of you have the mercenaries at Arenfield

So that's weaken the point of having to pay the debt as early as possible, if in fact you can gain reputation passively. Save the money to buy pelts to create and upgrade your armor early and be able to do tougher quest earlier or so you won't have to worry about dying.

And like you said, if you can stiff the mayor out of more money? that's just the cherry on top.

 

[RamirezRJBR]

Is even worth doing the Mayor debt guest or just ignore?

If you start Lyvia's quest, there will come a time when you will recruit mercenaries and, consequently, the debt saver baron.

 

[Ottoeight]

Is it just me, or Jodarr's Ring has a level requirement to be worn now? MC is level 20 and has learned Witchcraft yet he still can't wear it.

I don't remember. I've just dug it out and equip it when I was working Penny's fields (0.5.0.0 update)

It's an accessory, anyway.

 

[RamirezRJBR]

Anything that has the potential to bring another dick into the situation gets people riled up. While the MC fucking everything that moves is fine obviously.

I understand your question. Sometimes the MC seems to be in a porn movie. But if you consider this to be a sex game as well as an adventure then we have to accept all that lust. In fact, the very name of the game already makes the plot clear. My only criticism is the MC saying "I love you" to all women (or at least some). This creates a commitment that up front can be demanded by the girl.

 

[RamirezRJBR]

1. we don't know how import it is yet, so can't really rely on it as "be all".

2. exp can be farmed, and you'll gain much more exp by just straight up doing the quest I mentioned.

3. the house can be lockpicked, which again is a lot cheaper early game then paying 20 gold. By the time you build up the 20 gold you can finish up multiple quests, get full leather set for everyone and buy enough materials to upgrade said set with all the plates you need. This is your weakest point, as both methods allow you to create it.

Your strongest point is the reputation, but until I see a reason why it's important and why missing 1 point of it is important I don't see why when someone asks "can I skip paying my debt" my only answer should be "think of your reputation"

I agree. It doesn't seem traumatic for the plot not to pay the debt. 20 gold coins at the start is a fortune! The lost XP from the quest you easily make up for by killing orcs and bandits. Getting in and out at midnight is also very easy. And up front, I don't think you're going to lose anything in history just because you didn't pay the baron. Even because he paid later in exchange for the mercenaries.

 

[Ottoeight]

So that's weaken the point of having to pay the debt as early as possible, if in fact you can gain reputation passively. Save the money to buy pelts to create and upgrade your armor early and be able to do tougher quest earlier or so you won't have to worry about dying.

And like you said, if you can stiff the mayor out of more money? that's just the cherry on top.

As I told you, you'd better learn sewing from Frisha as soon as possible, therefore you need your house early.

Saving money for buying pelt? well, I've never bought pelt in 3 whole gameplays: I DID SELL IT.

Hunting and cutting logs; killing orcs at hunting ground and while watching Tia cutting logs; playing cards with Grant. Do it and collect a lot of money.

I payed my debts because this is what the questlog told me to do.

This is what I'd recommend.