RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[desmosome]

You know, I tried to play this without cheats for quite a while. Also tried to not look at the walkthrough too much.

You can really tell that the game is a product of incremental updates. The early/mid game progression suffers quite a bit. The character doesn't keep up with the increasing demand of many quests as they become available (often super early). It seems likely that when these high lvl quests got added to the game, most people playing update by update would have been at the appropriate level. New players going through the game naturally won't be anywhere near those levels. Lvl 15/20/30+ quests are being unlocked way before low lvl quests. You are juggling a huge amount of concurrent character arcs, sometimes with time limits.

The idea of a sandbox with so much freedom like this is probably to give a sense of immersion, but when you have to hold off on a supposedly urgent quest indefinitely to do other stuff, that immersion is lost. If you want to raise the level in a reasonable rate, you would probably have to put everything on hold and grind some fights which would also kinda break immersion.

Then there is the d20 system. It's absurdly punishing, especially when everything is gated by Energy which you can only regain by sleeping. I found myself save scumming those rolls quite a bit, so I just ended up cheating after about about 10 hours into the game. I'd say 10 hours is plenty of time to get a feel for it.

A brutal and punishing world is cool if there is a reasonable sense of progression. But the game misses the mark on that front. There are barely any quests offering character improvements. I still haven't seen anyone teaching the other weapons/shield/skills. Money is a constant issue. Energy is a constant issue. Exp is incredibly slow, and the enemies even scale with your lvl. The conditions for progressing certain characters are not always intuitive. Many characters have cross over requirements with the progression of others.

At some point, I realized I was totally in the "scene hunting" mindset, rather than the RPG mindset. That's when I knew that it was time to cheat.

 

[zARRR]

You know, I tried to play this without cheats for quite a while. Also tried to not look at the walkthrough too much.

You can really tell that the game is a product of incremental updates. The early/mid game progression suffers quite a bit. The character doesn't keep up with the increasing demand of many quests as they become available (often super early). It seems likely that when these high lvl quests got added to the game, most people playing update by update would have been at the appropriate level. New players going through the game naturally won't be anywhere near those levels. Lvl 15/20/30+ quests are being unlocked way before low lvl quests. You are juggling a huge amount of concurrent character arcs, sometimes with time limits.

The idea of a sandbox with so much freedom like this is probably to give a sense of immersion, but when you have to hold off on a supposedly urgent quest indefinitely to do other stuff, that immersion is lost. If you want to raise the level in a reasonable rate, you would probably have to put everything on hold and grind some fights which would also kinda break immersion.

Then there is the d20 system. It's absurdly punishing, especially when everything is gated by Energy which you can only regain by sleeping. I found myself save scumming those rolls quite a bit, so I just ended up cheating after about about 10 hours into the game. I'd say 10 hours is plenty of time to get a feel for it.

A brutal and punishing world is cool if there is a reasonable sense of progression. But the game misses the mark on that front. There are barely any quests offering character improvements. I still haven't seen anyone teaching the other weapons/shield/skills. Money is a constant issue. Energy is a constant issue. Exp is incredibly slow, and the enemies even scale with your lvl. The conditions for progressing certain characters are not always intuitive. Many characters have cross over requirements with the progression of others.

At some point, I realized I was totally in the "scene hunting" mindset, rather than the RPG mindset. That's when I knew that it was time to cheat.

I know that the progression level and other minor gameplay parts are like a seesaw, but that’s because it’s still a work in progress.
In fact one of the updates that should arrive this year is a rework and balance.
Rework of enemy leves and drop rates, and other things that may be seen too grindy, balancing the game experience

 

[Evangelion-01]

The reason a lot of games work this way is because a lot of games are renpy, which comes with that function built it.
This game is NOT renpy, which is why it does not work.

That's a wrong assumption in itself.
Sure CTRL ALSO works on RenPy, but RenPy has a build in skip function which can be triggered by TAB aswell.
Most RPGM games that support skipping (which admittetly is rather low) have it tied to the left CTRL key.

You know, I tried to play this without cheats for quite a while. Also tried to not look at the walkthrough too much.

You can really tell that the game is a product of incremental updates. The early/mid game progression suffers quite a bit. The character doesn't keep up with the increasing demand of many quests as they become available (often super early). It seems likely that when these high lvl quests got added to the game, most people playing update by update would have been at the appropriate level. New players going through the game naturally won't be anywhere near those levels. Lvl 15/20/30+ quests are being unlocked way before low lvl quests. You are juggling a huge amount of concurrent character arcs, sometimes with time limits.

The idea of a sandbox with so much freedom like this is probably to give a sense of immersion, but when you have to hold off on a supposedly urgent quest indefinitely to do other stuff, that immersion is lost. If you want to raise the level in a reasonable rate, you would probably have to put everything on hold and grind some fights which would also kinda break immersion.

Then there is the d20 system. It's absurdly punishing, especially when everything is gated by Energy which you can only regain by sleeping. I found myself save scumming those rolls quite a bit, so I just ended up cheating after about about 10 hours into the game. I'd say 10 hours is plenty of time to get a feel for it.

A brutal and punishing world is cool if there is a reasonable sense of progression. But the game misses the mark on that front. There are barely any quests offering character improvements. I still haven't seen anyone teaching the other weapons/shield/skills. Money is a constant issue. Energy is a constant issue. Exp is incredibly slow, and the enemies even scale with your lvl. The conditions for progressing certain characters are not always intuitive. Many characters have cross over requirements with the progression of others.

At some point, I realized I was totally in the "scene hunting" mindset, rather than the RPG mindset. That's when I knew that it was time to cheat.

You can increase energy with Potions and spells along the way and Upgradeing your constitution skill reduces energy consumption by any action drastically (also increases overall Energy and HP)

 

[Samsul Hidayat]

You know, I tried to play this without cheats for quite a while. Also tried to not look at the walkthrough too much.

You can really tell that the game is a product of incremental updates. The early/mid game progression suffers quite a bit. The character doesn't keep up with the increasing demand of many quests as they become available (often super early). It seems likely that when these high lvl quests got added to the game, most people playing update by update would have been at the appropriate level. New players going through the game naturally won't be anywhere near those levels. Lvl 15/20/30+ quests are being unlocked way before low lvl quests. You are juggling a huge amount of concurrent character arcs, sometimes with time limits.

The idea of a sandbox with so much freedom like this is probably to give a sense of immersion, but when you have to hold off on a supposedly urgent quest indefinitely to do other stuff, that immersion is lost. If you want to raise the level in a reasonable rate, you would probably have to put everything on hold and grind some fights which would also kinda break immersion.

Then there is the d20 system. It's absurdly punishing, especially when everything is gated by Energy which you can only regain by sleeping. I found myself save scumming those rolls quite a bit, so I just ended up cheating after about about 10 hours into the game. I'd say 10 hours is plenty of time to get a feel for it.

A brutal and punishing world is cool if there is a reasonable sense of progression. But the game misses the mark on that front. There are barely any quests offering character improvements. I still haven't seen anyone teaching the other weapons/shield/skills. Money is a constant issue. Energy is a constant issue. Exp is incredibly slow, and the enemies even scale with your lvl. The conditions for progressing certain characters are not always intuitive. Many characters have cross over requirements with the progression of others.

At some point, I realized I was totally in the "scene hunting" mindset, rather than the RPG mindset. That's when I knew that it was time to cheat.

Other method of regaining Energy is by chugging those Energy Potions. Then again, you gotta work your way through Rumah quests to get it.

 

[zARRR]

Other method of regaining Energy is by chugging those Energy Potions. Then again, you gotta work your way through Rumah quests to get it.

I mean also wine helps with the regain of energy, makes lust go up, but you still recover some

 

[Samsul Hidayat]

I mean also wine helps with the regain of energy, makes lust go up, but you still recover some

Dinner as well.

 

[zARRR]

Dinner as well.

I was referring to items, if we wanna go with events then, Anya’s massages beat everything

 

[Tykopulus]

Will Imawyn shut down the bandits camp when u punish her long enough?
Or is the final step to put her in chains?

(She has 10 corrution since some days and is now waiting for me every night )

 

[RevGen10]

Will Imawyn shut down the bandits camp when u punish her long enough?
Or is the final step to put her in chains?

(She has 10 corrution since some days and is now waiting for me every night )

No. You eventually do have to capture her...or Lyvia will

 

[Tykopulus]

Is her Story Arc at the end when you capture her? Or is there content with her after that?


Oh and one additional thing... i played the game for 20 hours without any problems... but since yesterday the game freeses 2-4x the hour. (When you go to bed - or change area - or just while walking around) Sound and soundeffects still work. But the clock and i dont move anymore.

Is this a knows bug? Can you fix it?

 

[desmosome]

Btw, I just realized you can set relations with the Markus Letter. Is this simple word replacement that doesn't really make sense with the plot, or is there a legit half sister narrative?

 

[zARRR]

Btw, I just realized you can set relations with the Markus Letter. Is this simple word replacement that doesn't really make sense with the plot, or is there a legit half sister narrative?

Let’s call it an anti patreon police measure.
Mira has got some different lines if you write sister and so does the MC, tho he’ll keep calling Markus “Dad” or “Mentor” depending for the situation.
You can choose whatever you feel it is more believable, or congruent in the story.

 

[desmosome]

Let’s call it an anti patreon police measure.
Mira has got some different lines if you write sister and so does the MC, tho he’ll keep calling Markus “Dad” or “Mention” depending for the situation.
You can choose whatever you feel it is more believable.

Yea, I just tested it before showing her the letter. It goes beyond simple word replacement. That's cool.

 

[zARRR]

Yea, I just tested it before showing her the letter. It goes beyond simple word replacement. That's cool.

Yep it’s cool.
Other cool thing like this, it’s when tou chose the name suggest by Lyvia for the mercenary squad

 

[NtinoBac]

Now...the next update is Lyvia's story.
I remembered something... When you sit with her in the camp, after the "birth" of the white flame, she has a conversation with MC. She tells him about a dude, who trained her. Well, perhaps he is the time to return in the game...perhaps he is the Raven.
And Lyvia, or the MC has to choose once again....KILL him or share Lyvia with him. I feel there is a pattern after all.
What do you think guys?

 

[Ottoeight]

Now...the next update is Lyvia's story.
I remembered something... When you sit with her in the camp, after the "birth" of the white flame, she has a conversation with MC. She tells him about a dude, who trained her. Well, perhaps he is the time to return in the game...perhaps he is the Raven.
And Lyvia, or the MC has to choose once again....KILL him or share Lyvia with him. I feel there is a pattern after all.
What do you think guys?

No share, unless it's Old Pal Rod or Father Lewd. Giron can have his old broad back, too.

 

[NtinoBac]

No share, unless it's Old Pal Rod or Father Lewd. Giron can have his old broad back, too.

For me there is also a pattern.... Dasan.Hacima...or Hekima...i dont remember his name, ...THEY ARE DEAD!
Giron is his cell and im waiting to kick his ass when i ll have the oppurunity
And Giron and his son....they never get any girl.
lol

 

[desmosome]

I'm 10 hours in and haven't progressed with Tia. I think cus I groped her a few times at the beginning and lost relationship points. I got up to the point of talking to Rick about Tia, but her affection doesn't go above 5 when I need 7+ to progress.

edit: I got +1 affection when killing the goblin that attacks her... I guess that's a way to increase it. There is always something I'm missing lol...

 

[HentaiKami]

I'm 10 hours in and haven't progressed with Tia. I think cus I groped her a few times at the beginning and lost relationship points. I got up to the point of talking to Rick about Tia, but her affection doesn't go above 5 when I need 7+ to progress.

edit: I got +1 affection when killing the goblin that attacks her... I guess that's a way to increase it. There is always something I'm missing lol...

Walkthrough is useful if you don't oppose using it.

 

[BBC God]

I'm 10 hours in and haven't progressed with Tia. I think cus I groped her a few times at the beginning and lost relationship points. I got up to the point of talking to Rick about Tia, but her affection doesn't go above 5 when I need 7+ to progress.

edit: I got +1 affection when killing the goblin that attacks her... I guess that's a way to increase it. There is always something I'm missing lol...

Due to the games design and release method, the game pretty much cant be played without having the walkthrough open. If you do play it without the walkthrough you *will* miss content or eventually need to ask or look up the solution to something that wasnt properly explained.