RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[Evangelion-01]

It’s also a matter of direction.
Chyos is a great dev, hard worker, and even if his story options proceed not towards the main plot, they have still story content in them and they are enjoyable.
The direction here is sparse, fandom decides the following, Chyos puts the possible polls and they decide for him.
The fanbase problem comes from bonus scenes mostly, since those are original ideas.
Then there is the problem of overworking, that could be resolved with the co developer et cetera.
For the NTR problem honestly it’s not such deal imo, game still feels enough vanilla, Queen had no NTR, Julia date was wholesome, Dominant Tia is reasonable and Dasan appears only if you let the bastard live.
But Arianna goes to Hollywood, I mean Rumah, feels understandable for her character, she likes the woods and goes into them, and even if the Dasan’s shadow looms, he is still an option and for many, it’s a dead option.

Personally I think the prevotes are an overkill Problem.
I don't know since when they are a thing, but lately even Story Poll options are lined up by a prevote.
The game seemed to have had a much better dynamic when Chyos only had Patreon Votes rather than both Discord and Patreon votes.

 

[123Ins123]

I cant complete the church mission 15.Alaira – Any herb or plant (can buy them from Katherin) cant buy herb or plants from Katherine only sell healing tincture bandage antidote

You need the Nature skill, which is obtained during the quest in Rumah, to detect it. In addition, Dragon Leaf grass can be won as a bonus from Grant in blackjack (if you win everything from him).

 

[sawdon]

You need the Nature skill, which is obtained during the quest in Rumah, to detect it. In addition, Dragon Leaf grass can be won as a bonus from Grant in blackjack (if you win everything from him).

thanks I've been wandering around for an hour trying to find the plants

 

[KaitenBK201]

If i did rescued Mira from the church but didn't started Emily relationship, if i do Emily's route after that will i still be able to get 3somes scenes in the future like i would if i had done Emly's route before rescuing Mira from the church?

 

[Evangelion-01]

If i did rescued Mira from the church but didn't started Emily relationship, if i do Emily's route after that will i still be able to get 3somes scenes in the future like i would if i had done Emly's route before rescuing Mira from the church?

No...atleast not unless Chyos includes a trigger variable fixer

 

[Shaun@121]

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Well i used it in joilplay it works fine for 2 min and after that it strt lagging and then i restart it work for 2 min and again start lagging can anyone plz tell me the solution

 

[KaitenBK201]

No...atleast not unless Chyos includes a trigger variable fixer

Dang! I really need to make up an order in which to do the relationship, my OCD don't like that

 

[Samsul Hidayat]

For training in the camp, can anyone tell me? I created a training ground, sent mercenaries to train with Libya, but their morale is falling, and I don't understand where to leave wine for them?

Bro is so committed to the game, he ends up in Libya.

 

[mrttao]

For training in the camp, can anyone tell me? I created a training ground, sent mercenaries to train with Libya, but their morale is falling, and I don't understand where to leave wine for them?

mercenaries have morale?

 

[Evangelion-01]

mercenaries have morale?

they will have with the next Updates

 

[mrttao]

they will have with the next Updates

oh, I already hate it
sounds like another thing to micro manage

... can I at least use mind control to overrule their morale?

 

[Samsul Hidayat]

oh, I already hate it
sounds like another thing to micro manage

... can I at least use mind control to overrule their morale?

Considering that current end game is just wandering around collecting mats, I think it's fine.

 

[123Ins123]

mercenaries have morale?

I'm going through version 0.5.1.5 and here the mercenaries need to maintain moral at the proper level, which decreases with training. To do this, they need to put wine somewhere in the camp, but I can't figure out where to do it.

 

[Deleted member 3480231]

I'm going through version 0.5.1.5 and here the mercenaries need to maintain moral at the proper level, which decreases with training. To do this, they need to put wine somewhere in the camp, but I can't figure out where to do it.

And what else is new in this version ?

 

[123Ins123]

And what else is new in this version ?

Mercenaries can be trained up to rank 3. If you have completed the quest "royal order", you can rearm them through John and put them in chain mail. You can build another tent in the camp and hare more mercenaries. With Tia, a decrease in her attachment has been added, in case GG throws her in the Rumah and does not take her with him. If you leave her there at the very beginning, then, as far as I understand, she will generally give up on MC and will live with Datsan (even before Ibhar's death). That's about it.

 

[yazda]

No...atleast not unless Chyos includes a trigger variable fixer

That was true in earlier versions but is no longer correct. Emily, Mira and Frisha routes do not influence each other.

 

[RamirezRJBR]

Think it's an issue of scope creep. The game is getting too wide and the story is kinda shallow. I understand devs that take this approach of keeping their donors happy, but at the same time you also want to keep trying to bring people in. If you only play to one type of audience, it sorta becomes a circlejerk and stagnates. Superpowered is a good example of this, where it took years and years for Baal to move the story forward, because his donors wanted more ntr scenes. It's a tough balancing act, because you want to keep your game fresh and engaging, while keeping patrons happy too. Hopefully the dev starts moving the ball forward with the story soon. Otherwise, if nothing changes the game will slowly die out and that's a shame.

Balance. Well analyzed. I thought about becoming a donor, but I gave up because I think the game doesn't evolve, or almost doesn't evolve, the main story. Game development is slow. This is a fact. Returning to balance I have a simple suggestion for the developer. A month dedicated to the main story. In the other dedicated to NTR content according to the polls. That simple. Gradually both progress.

 

[zARRR]

Balance. Well analyzed. I thought about becoming a donor, but I gave up because I think the game doesn't evolve, or almost doesn't evolve, the main story. Game development is slow. This is a fact. Returning to balance I have a simple suggestion for the developer. A month dedicated to the main story. In the other dedicated to NTR content according to the polls. That simple. Gradually both progress.

No.
The game does not need a NTR month or a sex scene month, that would be a killer both for the development and for the vanilla fans out there, they would just say “Well guess I should give up my subscription this month”.
Bonus scenes should be cut or at least cut till the game gets more juicy plot.
Sex scenes can still happen related to that poll.
And the game development ain’t slow, that’s not a fact, every month it gets updated.
The main plot is slow Almost stagnant, that’s the fact.

 

[Teezee]

This post might rustle some feathers, but I've been absent for a while now and I have to say that this game has been disappointing me lately. I'm considering stopping being a donor and following the development.

A few months ago people were machine gunnin' that the story of this game gets absolutely nowhere because of Rumah overload. Vanilla players get salty with the NTR obsession as well, especially from some patrons who completely dictate where this game goes.

I was like "calm down mate, don't be so mad, wait for a while".

Yeah, but I'm seeing the point now. The last bonus scene was Tia shit *again*, the next bonus scene is Arianna in Rumah, and look, Tia is leading the main poll! The main plot moves like a turtle, and characters are forgotten in favor of NTR supremacist scenes ideas (here are some lazily new angles for the vanilla side shut the fuck up - we are having NTR-focused updates now, there is no wiggling room for this last Tia update and her storyline - it's a fact). Maybe when we reach our golden years we will discover who is the MC's family.

This is funny because this dev can definitely not be called a milker. He's more like a puppet of his patrons and bites more than he can chew often. Sorry, but it's the truth. It came to a point that he currently stopped the bonus scene of the month to remedy that. Why support him at this tier again?

Feel legit bad writing this because Chyos seems like a legit good guy. But the development has been messy at best. Might change my review and stop watching this thread. I was waiting for Lyvia's update to finish, but playing this game again on my lil potato with Intel Graphics is a chore (one of the most demanding games on this site - and it's RPGM with Tk17 graphics! - and my main PC went to shit), so I might pass.

Sadly I agree with every word you said. I had reached the same conclusion a while back (I actually stopped being a patron long ago, didn't like the direction the game was going). I had taken some time off away from the game, so when I did download the latest version and play it, I was extremely disappointed.

I was an early supporter of the game, heck I even exchanged direct messages with Chyos at the time, offering support and help; but then the game started going off in a direction that foretold the current situation, and some members whiteknighting everything Chyos did just made it imho worse.

I was thinking about changing my review too, till I read your post. I'll hold off on that for now though I doubt anything will change in the foreseeable future. I agree that Chyos does seem like a legit good guy, but I can't shake the feeling that he himself is a huge NTR fan (at least that was the feeling I got when I stopped being a patron).

 

[Shaun@121]

Well i used it in joilplay it works fine for 2 min and after that it strt lagging and then i restart it work for 2 min and again start lagging can anyone plz tell me the solution

Does anyone want to answer this