RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[Guz007]

Can't we progress lyvia quest of hunting bandits without doing liandra's stroyline?
if not which one is better story wise and visuals wise
keeping her at camp or returning her to baron?

 

[Guz007]

What happens if you’re not allied with hekima but don’t let the princess listen?
I’ve never tried that route.

So what happened was
the dude that came to take the princess comes in the morning
queen tells the princess she's going with that dude to the forest for picnic or some shit and the princess and dude leaves and queen starts crying.

 

[Evangelion-01]

What happens if you’re not allied with hekima but don’t let the princess listen?
I’ve never tried that route.

She'll marry her Orc prince... or rather she is going to be forced to once this part of her story is developed.

Can't we progress lyvia quest of hunting bandits without doing liandra's stroyline?
if not which one is better story wise and visuals wise
keeping her at camp or returning her to baron?

You can... bringing Liandra to your Camp just unlocks haveing a Party earlier than if you simply concentrate on training your band (otherwise Lyvias content would be blocked if MC brought her to the Baron).
Bringing her to the Baron has several routes routes...
warn her about the Potion (No chastity belt)... nothing much changes. [NTR]
Giving her the Chastity Belt AND warn her about the potion [none NTR] route of above
Giving her the chastity belt without warning her about the potion [corruption] route... she'll become a slut hate fucking the MC
Nither give her the chastity belt nor the warning... she'll be a slut for Dave to enjoy [NTR]

 

[Guz007]

She'll marry her Orc prince... or rather she is going to be forced to once this part of her story is developed.

You can... bringing Liandra to your Camp just unlocks haveing a Party earlier than if you simply concentrate on training your band (otherwise Lyvias content would be blocked if MC brought her to the Baron).
Bringing her to the Baron has several routes routes...
warn her about the Potion (No chastity belt)... nothing much changes. [NTR]
Giving her the Chastity Belt AND warn her about the potion [none NTR] route of above
Giving her the chastity belt without warning her about the potion [corruption] route... she'll become a slut hate fucking the MC
Nither give her the chastity belt nor the warning... she'll be a slut for Dave to enjoy [NTR]

Thanks im in no ntr gameplay
what would be better according to you to take her to camp or baron,
in camp or at baron with chastity belt and warning about portions
which would you say is better storyline based on your opinion ?
And i cant seem to progress lyvia's quest, i have armed all 15 of my men but john still keeps making armor whenn i talk with him about,
is there something else i need to do?

 

[zARRR]

Can't we progress lyvia quest of hunting bandits without doing liandra's stroyline?
if not which one is better story wise and visuals wise
keeping her at camp or returning her to baron?

No, I think you can continue it without Liandra’s quest.
If you can’t, you have two choices where from the story you can somewhat expect the consequences:
- Bringing her in the camp and securing her, no reward from Giron.
- Bringing her to Giron, possible NTR and reward received
The first one is a love path, second one is a corruption path (With optional NTR that can be prevented with the cage of chastity).

Both have almost the same scenes with some key variations.
Camp route has some dancing and romance scenes, mansion route has an optional enlargement choice which will boost Liandra’s breasts and butt.

Thanks im in no ntr gameplay
what would be better according to you to take her to camp or baron,
in camp or at baron with chastity belt and warning about portions
which would you say is better storyline based on your opinion ?
And i cant seem to progress lyvia's quest, i have armed all 15 of my men but john still keeps making armor whenn i talk with him about,
is there something else i need to do?

Oh I didn’t seen this one.
Both are unfinished and will have the objective to bring back Liandra home to Kirlic’s baron.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Thanks im in no ntr gameplay
what would be better according to you to take her to camp or baron,
in camp or at baron with chastity belt and warning about portions
which would you say is better storyline based on your opinion ?
And i cant seem to progress lyvia's quest, i have armed all 15 of my men but john still keeps making armor whenn i talk with him about,
is there something else i need to do?

Well sending her to the baron without a warning changes her character completly... I'd say she turns into a Bimbo... both phisically and emotionally.
She'll have sex with MC because she get's a depraved need for it.
On the other hand sending her to the camp will unlock a more romantically story... she'll warm up to MC and even fall in love with him.
Her next Bonus scene that is up to vote will allow you to give her the Potion to give her bigger boobs and ass even at the camp... normally a Character on the love route won't change to a corruption route so I suspect the mental effect won't trigger or be much lighter

 

[Guz007]

Well sending her to the baron without a warning changes her character completly... I'd say she turns into a Bimbo... both phisically and emotionally.
She'll have sex with MC because she get's a depraved need for it.
On the other hand sending her to the camp will unlock a more romantically story... she'll warm up to MC and even fall in love with him.
Her next Bonus scene that is up to vote will allow you to give her the Potion to give her bigger boobs and ass even at the camp

Thanks i will go with camp route ,
can you please also help with

And i cant seem to progress lyvia's quest, i have armed and trained all 15 of my men but john still keeps making armor when i talk with him about,
is there something else i need to do?

 

[Evangelion-01]

Thanks i will go with camp route ,
can you please also help with

And i cant seem to progress lyvia's quest, i have armed and trained all 15 of my men but john still keeps making armor when i talk with him about,
is there something else i need to do?

For starters you can build another tent in your camp to host a total of 20 men (-1 if Frank is alive)... that aside John will keep makeing armor for your army.
For once there is a good chance that several of your men die dureing the confrontation with the Raven and also some dessert your band if their morale is to low (includeing their gear being lost)

 

[Overlord070]

Oh right...
5th Arianna (how to trigger Rumah NTR)

Well talking to Emily also unlocks Tia as a LI and wood cutting in order to improve str and con aswell as get the first battle companion so it's best adviced to actually talk to them atleast this once.
Also it's required to learn reading (Int +2)

Even that's ignoring the obvious, you'd have to be retarded to not check all the buildings, at least in the starting area.

 

[serencyon]

Even that's ignoring the obvious, you'd have to be retarded to not check all the buildings, at least in the starting area.

Considering this game is first and foremost built to be an RPG yeah, that would be the obvious path, but some people could have the tunnel vision to focus only on the porn aspect of the game. Those are the people that could use a little helping hand with the basic concepts, specially at the very beginning.

 

[zARRR]

Considering this game is first and foremost built to be an RPG yeah, that would be the obvious path, but some people could have the tunnel vision to focus only on the porn aspect of the game. Those are the people that could use a little helping hand with the basic concepts, specially at the very beginning.

But then again said argument could be repeated, if you are playing this RPG game made in RPG maker, you decided to download it, knowing fully well of the aspects and tags.
And if you came only for the porn, tunneling everything on the phallic senses and ignoring the whole gameplay and game as a whole, then this game is simply not made for you.
That said there are things that need a rework and are too oblivious even to some seasoned player but not going immediately to Emily’s house at the start is not one of them.

 

[Overlord070]

But then again said argument could be repeated, if you are playing this RPG game made in RPG maker, you decided to download it, knowing fully well of the aspects and tags.
And if you came only for the porn, tunneling everything on the phallic senses and ignoring the whole gameplay and game as a whole, then this game is simply not made for you.
That said there are things that need a rework and are too oblivious even to some seasoned player but not going immediately to Emily’s house at the start is not one of them.

I was about to reply saying something similar.
If you can't be bothered with the RPG aspect in an RPG game then maybe time to play something else.

 

[serencyon]

But then again said argument could be repeated, if you are playing this RPG game made in RPG maker, you decided to download it, knowing fully well of the aspects and tags.
And if you came only for the porn, tunneling everything on the phallic senses and ignoring the whole gameplay and game as a whole, then this game is simply not made for you.
That said there are things that need a rework and are too oblivious even to some seasoned player but not going immediately to Emily’s house at the start is not one of them.

I agree with that, most of my personal issues with the game was because I got overwhelmed with the number of quests on my log and was in doubt in wich order to tackle them, but the basic RPG aspects I got from the get go. From what I see on posts most of the issues also come from how dependent people are of the walkthrough or their ability to understand it. But from what I said earlier, the only issue I would tackle about the beggining is have the MC mention Lucius, most of the stuff I came through seemed pretty straight forward.

 

[Evangelion-01]

I won't kink shame anyone or turn them away as they might come for the porn but stay for the game... so instead I'll encourage anyone to play this game and open their mind to other aspects they might not have considered when starting it.

We have seen several users not interested in the NTR attempting the scenes and even if they never pursured the way further down, were impressed about the scenes quality.

Maybe people comeing for the pron will take this as a learning experience and check out more games on the genre.

 

[Guz007]

To kill or not to kill hekima?
Consequences ?

 

[Overlord070]

I won't kink shame anyone or turn them away as they might come for the porn but stay for the game... so instead I'll encourage anyone to play this game and open their mind to other aspects they might not have considered when starting it.

We have seen several users not interested in the NTR attempting the scenes and even if they never pursured the way further down, were impressed about the scenes quality.

Maybe people comeing for the pron will take this as a earning experience and check out more games on the genre.

That's fair but then to come here and either bitch the game doesn't explain anything or that the walkthrough is unreadable or whatever, c'mon now. Apart from the Lyvia section with regards to when the game let's you actually recruit mercs, you can follow the walkthrough easily.

Those that don't want to use a walkthrough but then want the game to hold their hand...tough luck? that's the nature of the game.

 

[zARRR]

To kill or not to kill hekima?
Consequences ?

Who knows game isn’t finished yet.
Gather your thoughts to guess what could happen, and also use your sense of morality.
Is leaving an enemy general that seems honest but desperate a good outcome?
Could Hekima become an ally or craft his own future leaving politics aside?
Is he lying or not?
Can a wolf lose his habit?
Draw your conclusions

 

[serencyon]

That's fair but then to come here and either bitch the game doesn't explain anything or that the walkthrough is unreadable or whatever, c'mon now. Apart from the Lyvia section with regards to when the game let's you actually recruit mercs, you can follow the walkthrough easily.

Those that don't want to use a walkthrough but then want the game to hold their hand...tough luck? that's the nature of the game.

I mean, it's the internet.
People would bitch about it even if the game was flawless.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Who knows game isn’t finished yet.
Gather your thoughts to guess what could happen, and also use your sense of morality.
Is leaving an enemy general that seems honest but desperate a good outcome?
Could Hekima become an ally or craft his own future leaving politics aside?
Is he lying or not?
Can a wolf lose his habit?
Draw your conclusions

Hekima is what you'd call "a dog of war" he is not invested either by patronism or believe.
The better question is wether Hekima will attempt to conquer Anya by any means neccessary or he'll attempt to atleast end it with a positive impression by helping her, her mother and the MC to escape this mad war and start a new life in (relative) peace.

If anything Hekima can be the scorpion riding the wolfs back across the river.

 

[zARRR]

Hekima is what you'd call "a dog of war" he is not invested either by patronism or believe.
The better question is wether Hekima will attempt to conquer Anya by any means neccessary or he'll attempt to atleast end it with a positive impression by helping her, her mother and the MC to escape this mad war and start a new life in (relative) peace.

If anything Hekima can be the scorpion riding the wolfs back across the river.

With sparing Hekima, the plot can follow three different approaches:
-He comes back to backstab the player and tries to imprison Anya, showing off that he lied and that he was a slimy bastard all along.
-He comes back but to help, could even be a small gesture, like sabotaging an enemy attack to simply repay his debt with the MC for sparing him.
-He is a man of his word and never comes back, trying to start a new life.

It’s an interesting villain Hekima, if it’s true that Anya’s father was betrayed we may even face the demiurge of her family demise.
After all, I don’t think that we will fight Van and kill him in his camp, there will be another general or subordinate ready to take his place.