RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[Storm4n]

Am I glitched? reading with Mira doesn't raise Affection at all, finished Emily's quest, she's a lover and got the reading part finished, got the potion thing but the "keep reading til you get to the part where you kiss her" nope... not happening can only place hand in back

 

[Matiur13]

Am I glitched? reading with Mira doesn't raise Affection at all, finished Emily's quest, she's a lover and got the reading part finished, got the potion thing but the "keep reading til you get to the part where you kiss her" nope... not happening can only place hand in back

So you put the MC's hand on Mira's back a few times and can go further? How much Affection Mira has?
At 7 and 8 Affection you place the hand on het back and keep calm. At 9 A you can kiss her.
Normally you only need to take things slowly and be patient. But if you have 8 A and can't go further... I don't know what to say.

 

[harem.king]

From the logical point of view: Well yes, but actually no.
Mira with or without her magic is unsuitable for combat, as she doesn't have training nor expierience. So it would require of her to train with party in order to at least be somewhat useful in combat or at least be capable enough to defend herself. The thing is it's not her job to fight. Her job is to heal those who fight. And she can do that with or without magic powers. Of course with magic power it should be faster and easier. But Mira is a nurse or attendant would be a better word. If I do remember correctly, but I might be wrong, she had to patch and care for MC at least three times during the game and did it more times IF player allowed himself to be defeated. Add to that knowledge from books and teachings about medical aid from church and she is qualified enough to aid you and will learn more on the journey.

As for Syfa being too weak to fight on church path? Well, that's simple enough. You have to "charge" the girl. And what's the best way to do that? Of course you have to fuck her. Problem solved. But I think Mira might not like it... at least not before being corrupted enough. After that she might even join.

You are forgetting that Demons have immense physical might.
So stealing a Demon's power should come with a major physique upgrade not just potential energy to cast spells with




As for Syfa. Before you can start to charge her, you need to first break her will and make her loyal enough to trust her enough to remove the slave collar that is suppressing her powers.

 

[Storm4n]

So you put the MC's hand on Mira's back a few times and can go further? How much Affection Mira has?
At 7 and 8 Affection you place the hand on het back and keep calm. At 9 A you can kiss her.
Normally you only need to take things slowly and be patient. But if you have 8 A and can't go further... I don't know what to say.

6 Affection at the moment, because I wasn't using the guide and I missed that extra point at the start because I didn't learn the defense training thing and Dave hit me in the face.

nothing I do raises her affection and I've done the "read and put your hand on her back" like 10 times already, so I'm just deciding it's best to just cheat her affection level and be done with it.

Does the game hide or remove anything or any content if you cheat? like if there's a cheat flag in your save?

 

[Samsul Hidayat]

Would not mind having orc girl Maui in the party.

Maui's combat role is to teach Tia new skills, so having her at the party is redundant.

 

[Ottoeight]

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WTF is this.

Guys, I think I've totally lost you.

 

[harem.king]

WTF is this.

Guys, I think I've totally lost you.

It is memes related to muscle magic / reinforcement magic / body cultivation.
There is lots of backing in fiction for the notion that magic can make you physically stronger, faster, and more durable.

And the fact that this power was stolen from a demon, and we have seen how OP demons are in this universe, and losing their powers seem to make them physically weaker. all suggest to me that lorewise, demon magic serves to buff up demons and makes them physically stronger. Thus logically, if someone steals the power of a demon via a magic ritual, that person should get physical enhancements

 

[Ottoeight]

It is memes related to muscle magic / reinforcement magic / body cultivation.
There is lots of backing in fiction for the notion that magic can make you physically stronger, faster, and more durable.

And the fact that this power was stolen from a demon, and we have seen how OP demons are in this universe, and losing their powers seem to make them physically weaker. all suggest to me that lorewise, demon magic serves to buff up demons and makes them physically stronger. Thus logically, if someone steals the power of a demon via a magic ritual, that person should get physical enhancements

So what

 

[zARRR]

6 Affection at the moment, because I wasn't using the guide and I missed that extra point at the start because I didn't learn the defense training thing and Dave hit me in the face.

nothing I do raises her affection and I've done the "read and put your hand on her back" like 10 times already, so I'm just deciding it's best to just cheat her affection level and be done with it.

Does the game hide or remove anything or any content if you cheat? like if there's a cheat flag in your save?

Cheating stats like love or corruption is overall a bad idea and to answer your question cheating won’t remove anything or block you (since the developer is not a crazy maniac that puts anti cheat device or anti anti cheat devices to his shitty game), you can add as many exp, money and items as you want, but the game won’t mostly handle stat manipulation, especially if you aren’t an expert.
Since even adding one affection point to certain characters can break their questline or annul triggers and fuck you up your save indefinitely.
So avoid that in general.

And don’t worry about losing that love point for Mira at the start of the playthrough, it just advances faster her love route, it’s not a matter of life or death.

If you give me your save(If it’s not from a compressed version or anything) I can check it for you (Save + global conf)

 

[TheBakonBitz]

While on a somewhat similar note, after Emily gets kidnapped (at least for the first time), talking to Mira during the following week indicates that she gives the player 20 silver if it's the first time you've talked to her that day, but the player's money total remains unchanged. It's not a big deal since I plan to free her myself instead of paying, but the extra money would be nice, especially early on.

 

[zARRR]

While on a somewhat similar note, after Emily gets kidnapped (at least for the first time), talking to Mira during the following week indicates that she gives the player 20 silver if it's the first time you've talked to her that day, but the player's money total remains unchanged. It's not a big deal since I plan to free her myself instead of paying, but the extra money would be nice, especially early on.

That sounds like a bug, do you have the save at that point to show the exact problem?

 

[acowasto]

You are forgetting that Demons have immense physical might.
So stealing a Demon's power should come with a major physique upgrade not just potential energy to cast spells with

I don't think so. She was overcharged with magical energy, not filled with testosterone. But because of said overcharge she won't be able to fully control it. I would expect uncontrolled outbursts of magical energy, casting spells with simple thought and immense pain every single time when trying to even use it.
Also I don't expect of Chyos to go daemonic features route. Because it would require of him to re-done every single sex scene with Mira in the game, which would require too much work for a very little gain.

Maui's combat role is to teach Tia new skills, so having her at the party is redundant.

There's no kill like Overkill, but having option to just throw 2x Massacre would be way too OP.

 

[Storm4n]

Cheating stats like love or corruption is overall a bad idea and to answer your question cheating won’t remove anything or block you (since the developer is not a crazy maniac that puts anti cheat device or anti anti cheat devices to his shitty game), you can add as many exp, money and items as you want, but the game won’t mostly handle stat manipulation, especially if you aren’t an expert.
Since even adding one affection point to certain characters can break their questline or annul triggers and fuck you up your save indefinitely.
So avoid that in general.

And don’t worry about losing that love point for Mira at the start of the playthrough, it just advances faster her love route, it’s not a matter of life or death.

If you give me your save(If it’s not from a compressed version or anything) I can check it for you (Save + global conf)

Thanks I just fixed it by adding just 1 point of Affection and after that it naturally led to the rest of the quest, she's not undergoing church training and Emilia is on her harem route, thanks again though.

 

[TheBakonBitz]

That sounds like a bug, do you have the save at that point to show the exact problem?

Sure, save slots 3-6 are all between the start and end of the quest, so you can just walk up and talk with Mira to encounter the bug. Started a new game in and playing version [v0.5.5.0a HotFix] downloaded from this site. No mods or cheats, only the extra content for the game I discovered recently, but the problem occurred before the extra content folder was added in.

 

[zARRR]

Sure, save slots 3-6 are all between the start and end of the quest, so you can just walk up and talk with Mira to encounter the bug. Started a new game in and playing version [v0.5.5.0a HotFix] downloaded from this site. No mods or cheats, only the extra content for the game I discovered recently, but the problem occurred before the extra content folder was added in.

Thanks for the notice, Chyos thanks you personally

 

[harem.king]

So what

so that was my lore theory about the lore reasons why dev chose to do the things he did.
where I compared information we found in the game with some general media info to try to come up with a coherent explanation.
It might be wrong. it might be right. we are just shooting the shit here and theorizing about how the lore works.

 

[zARRR]

I don't think so. She was overcharged with magical energy, not filled with testosterone. But because of said overcharge she won't be able to fully control it. I would expect uncontrolled outbursts of magical energy, casting spells with simple thought and immense pain every single time when trying to even use it.
Also I don't expect of Chyos to go daemonic features route. Because it would require of him to re-done every single sex scene with Mira in the game, which would require too much work for a very little gain.

Sypha was simply imprisoned, Isha freed her after a deal, and they got both the powers back.
Don’t go too over analysis on her, she is just a demon that had the powers of Gromthul and they are sealed through the powers of Athia.

For the daemonic features that’s not also going to happen, Mira will remain human.
Sypha instead could have a human form

 

[harem.king]

I don't think so. She was overcharged with magical energy, not filled with testosterone.

Testosterone is a mundane substance that cannot produce supernatural levels of might.
And a female demon that does not have well defined muscles is exhibiting such supernatural might.
Leading me to the theory that demonic magical energy can reinforce the body without biologically altering it the same way testosterone would.

 

[zARRR]

Testosterone is a mundane substance that cannot produce supernatural levels of might.
And a female demon that does not have well defined muscles is exhibiting such supernatural might.
Leading me to the theory that demonic magical energy can reinforce the body without biologically altering it the same way testosterone would.

Imo I don’t think Chyos thought about testosterone, the plot is pretty straightforward and any explanation doesn’t go too much in detail about the nature of things.
It’s more character driven than scientific

 

[HentaiKami]

Imo I don’t think Chyos thought about testosterone, the plot is pretty straightforward and any explanation doesn’t go too much in detail about the nature of things.
It’s more character driven than scientific

Also the fact that it's a fantasy setting and not all fantasy settings follow our laws of physics etc... Things that work in our reality wouldn't necessarily work in the game settings reality, or if they did, they might work differently. For example in D&D gunpowder might not work, if you made it by the same process it's made in real world, since physics and chemistry of it doesn't work similarly, instead they have magical item called smoke powder that works similarly.