RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[Necromant]

According to Marcus' letter, it doesn't matter if you play in normal mode or incestuous mode.
The letter says: that it is not known whether the mother is dead, we only know that the assassins were looking for her and in order to save her son, she leaves him in the care of Marcus.

Where in the case of incest, Marcus runs away with his son to save him (since his mother was married to a noble man (pheraps the MC is some sort of prince i think)).
In the case of a normal story, the mother entrusts the protagonist to her guardian (Marcus) and asks him to save him. In this case, Marcus never had sex with her, he was jealous of her husband (noble Husband), but there had never been anything between them.
Furthermore it is written in the letter that if you want more information, you have to go there and look for a certain Renold. So I assume that sooner or later, we will go to the MC's city, where we will meet Renold who will tell us what happened to his mother and why they wanted him dead.

Here the plot will be divided into two alternative versions i think? I imagine one where if she lives, you will save her and she will be a normal mother. While with the alternative plot, you will have the opportunity to choose whether to have an incestuous relationship with the mother or not.
I'm basing it on Mira, where you're asked the question of... she's my sister! Do I only feel brotherly affection for her? Or is there actually something else? And here you choose whether to be just her brother or to have her as a woman.

At last i hope the game go that way! Because i wanna see the MC fuck his mother! And i hope we can fuck and impregnate her

When will there be an update to finally show the Mc origins?

 

[OleJackRipper]

Yea. My current save file, with cheats, is clocked at 65:32:21

Aww Naw! HELL NAW!!!!

That does not include the time I spent on doing the branches of a quest and then reverting to before the decision split.

As much as I have done the same. It's like I made a pan sized 4 piece pizza while you're making pizza for the guiness books.

My condolences man!
I don't know if to wish I had the time you did. Or to be content I have other things going on. . . . actually. . . . I've possibly spent the same amount of time on this game and more with too many others. . . . shit. . . .
bed time

 

[Evangelion-01]

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Who can help? Stuck on Melissa's quest. Can't find a place?

Check the place near where you found Liandra

When will there be an update to finally show the Mc origins?

Depends on his origin... if he is a noble (bastard) from Kirlic once the city is available.
If he is indeed related to royality probably never as there won't be an Option to go to the capital

 

[zARRR]

I didn't know and didn't think of most of the points above.
Thought of 3,
thought about 4 and considered folk seems to say the niche of ntr made them the highest paying crowd while the rest really didn't pay as much or at all.

2. REALLY??! I'm being genuine here. . . really?! I would've thought the more realistic looking girls go. No, I'm not referring to boob or but size. I woulda taken most of the girls here over the girls in spoiler's game just sayin.

I agree with the combat part. the folk playing already know which outcome they want.
Enabling cheats does away with the need for higher drops and rates.
If my game was smooth I'd probably agree. But as things are, my pc is not a desktop. but it still lags when I play almost all rpgms. So I can't appreciate 2xspeed walking as it won't do much other than overshoot where I want my sprites going.

About the reworks. . . perhaps. I'm more of the opinion that a gallery would be an amazing addition.
For some of the curios vanilla folk. An option to lock content you've seen as that's not a part of almost all galleries & mods.
I just don't want to have to go back through a shit ton of gameplay to get what I want and to see the new content I miss if I don't go back.
AH!
I think I agree with you on the quicker quests. They were most certainly quicker in spoiler's game. Not going back through hours of gameplay because of mixed variables or an undesirable outcome would be preferable.

The one thing Chyos is sure of, is that he is not adding a gallery; the closest thing will be dream sequences where you can watch scenes you cannot anymore view, such as Marcus x Emily

 

[zARRR]

You go back to school, learn to read.

Gold coming from the guy who could not even read the posts or indications above him and kept spamming like a school kid

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I personally believe the most effective thing Chyos can do if he seriously wants to increase his patreon numbers is to rework some of the systems such that it drastically cut down on the grinding.

An option to instantly win all combats without any clicks.
An option to drastically increase rewards from combat and harvesting.
An option to double walk speed.
rework various quests to be quicker and less tedious.
etc.

Although any change runs the risk of alienating existing customers yet failing to bring in new ones. So any changes made have to be done carefully.

I could be wrong of course. just saying what I think is the best thing to improve.

He will rework some aspects of the gameplay, like the combat that he is already doing, balancing the level/exp scaling of the quests, some questlog additions, ugly scene, some QoL additions and other stuff but of those 4 options maybe only the walking speed will be addressed with an artifact (But probably not); the rest he won’t touch, since the cheats exists, and he isn’t going to rework the quests at all, the closest one of adding new content will be the monastery

 

[harem.king]

He will rework some aspects of the gameplay, like the combat that he is already doing, balancing the level/exp scaling of the quests, some questlog additions, ugly scene, some QoL additions and other stuff but of those 4 options maybe only the walking speed will be addressed with an artifact (But probably not); the rest he won’t touch, since the cheats exists, and he isn’t going to rework the quests at all, the closest one of adding new content will be the monastery

Speaking of... the very latest quest had you doing THIRTY tedious as hell scavenger hunts. with tons of walking.
Also forced waiting.

Waiting a day for the hint is frankly bad choice. hint should be given immediately with each map.
and we should have had drastically fewer treasure maps to chew through for that quest.

Anyway, dev will do whatever he wants. I was just chiming in with my opinion on why that other game pulls in so much more money.

 

[Kreeto]

Where can I find fanmade patch could anyone please send me the link

 

[Evangelion-01]

Speaking of... the very latest quest had you doing THIRTY tedious as hell scavenger hunts. with tons of walking.
Also forced waiting.

Waiting a day for the hint is frankly bad choice. hint should be given immediately with each map.
and we should have had drastically fewer treasure maps to chew through for that quest.

Anyway, dev will do whatever he wants. I was just chiming in with my opinion on why that other game pulls in so much more money.

I suppose you reffer to the 4 map pieces?
In my case I had them gathered at around 10-12 maps, afterwards it was only scavanger hunt for abysal fluid.
So my take it's a random drop and in your case got VERY unlucky.
I normally knew the locations of the treasures before the hint was given (grants additional affection with Melissa, which in turn reduces grind).
The only time I was buffled was when the treasure map send me to the monastery since Melissa said they'd be in locations in or around Arenfield

 

[zARRR]

Speaking of... the very latest quest had you doing THIRTY tedious as hell scavenger hunts. with tons of walking.
Also forced waiting.

Waiting a day for the hint is frankly bad choice. hint should be given immediately with each map.
and we should have had drastically fewer treasure maps to chew through for that quest.

Anyway, dev will do whatever he wants. I was just chiming in with my opinion on why that other game pulls in so much more money.

Oh yeah that, forgot about the recent Melissa quest, he forgot to add my goddamn suggestion on it, he will develop them later in the update.
To be honest I saw this gameplay update complementary to the daily routine of MC, while you do quests in town you also check maps; the treasures were also so scarce in comparison of what he planned.

Comparing Secret to ASWS it’s unfair tho, one I Renpy with art drawn style and minimal grinding aside from some dumb minigames, you basically have to click here and there and you are done, it’s a completely different public.
Even the fact that he uses Klub17 is a turn off for so many people

Where can I find fanmade patch could anyone please send me the link

A fan patch for dead characters… ah yeah so you were necro all along

I suppose you reffer to the 4 map pieces?
In my case I had them gathered at around 10-12 maps, afterwards it was only scavanger hunt for abysal fluid.
So my take it's a random drop and in your case got VERY unlucky.
I normally knew the locations of the treasures before the hint was given (grants additional affection with Melissa, which in turn reduces grind).
The only time I was buffled was when the treasure map send me to the monastery since Melissa said they'd be in locations in or around Arenfield

He raised the probability tho

 

[harem.king]

Where can I find fanmade patch could anyone please send me the link

what kind of fanmade patch? what do you expect it to do?

 

[Kreeto]

what kind of fanmade patch? what do you expect it to do?

Arriana and werewolf scene

 

[harem.king]

Arriana and werewolf scene

... isn't that part of the main game?

 

[wizardcock]

I want to ask about the monastery: I accused one of the monks, performed a ritual and then found out the truth after having sex with one of the nuns. The main character said that I should tell the abbot that killer escaped, but when talking to him there is no option. Is this possible?

 

[zARRR]

I want to ask about the monastery: I accused one of the monks, performed a ritual and then found out the truth after having sex with one of the nuns. The main character said that I should tell the abbot that killer escaped, but when talking to him there is no option. Is this possible?

No, it isn’t possible but if you imprisoned Antonius You did the right choice, since on the church route he will stab you back and make the boss fight against Syfa more complicated, but if you were interested into that fight, then I don’t think there is a way to solve it back

 

[wiretrppd]

Great game, one of my favorites around.

A few questions though:
- I got Natasha to full corruption but want to "downsize" her again (not the biggest fan of huge, unrealistic breasts). I untainted the water, but her breasts only reduced by one step. Do they reduce further or is that it? I've watched her praying several times but no change. Is there a cooldown associated with it maybe?
- What's Ophelia's max corruption atm (the walkthrough doesn't mention)? Also, does anything ever happen when you let Thomas take her up to the room? If no, that feels like a missed opportunity.

 

[zARRR]

Great game, one of my favorites around.

A few questions though:
- I got Natasha to full corruption but want to "downsize" her again (not the biggest fan of huge, unrealistic breasts). I untainted the water, but her breasts only reduced by one step. Do they reduce further or is that it? I've watched her praying several times but no change. Is there a cooldown associated with it maybe?
- What's Ophelia's max corruption atm (the walkthrough doesn't mention)? Also, does anything ever happen when you let Thomas take her up to the room? If no, that feels like a missed opportunity.

- They don’t, it’s either huge or big

- Something happens if are you an asshole and steal Thomas money and keep doing that, he will punish Ophelia

 

[Baki-san18]

Kate for some reason does not want to become pregnant, when we first started talking about a contraceptive, I told her to take care of it herself, but after I told her that I would take care of it myself, then for some reason I can't make her pregnant, is this a bug?

 

[zARRR]

Kate for some reason does not want to become pregnant, when we first started talking about a contraceptive, I told her to take care of it herself, but after I told her that I would take care of it myself, then for some reason I can't make her pregnant, is this a bug?

She doesn’t want to become pregnant because it’s out of the marriage, that’s why she is distressed and goes into panic, not because she is prude but well because it’s still something grave.
I don’t think it’s a bug, you just need to pump in her cum, and if you are at 100 lust, it’s easier

 

[Baki-san18]

She doesn’t want to become pregnant because it’s out of the marriage, that’s why she is distressed and goes into panic, not because she is prude but well because it’s still something grave.
I don’t think it’s a bug, you just need to pump in her cum, and if you are at 100 lust, it’s easier

Thank you very much! (♥´∀｀)／

 

[Hotjump69]