RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.1b] [Chyos]

[zARRR]

War never changes but also NTR discussions

~ Ulysses S. Grant

 

[Ottoeight]

To a degree, but there is a good chance that the majority of NTR haters will remain that until the end.
Those with no opinion to it might even learn to enjoy it... but don't expect that from haters

Man, the point is that most ntr-haters call ntr anything. Sharing is sharing, being cucked is being cucked, forchrissake.

An orgy is not ntr. Whenever they see a dick which doesn't belong to MC they start barking like a rabid dog: damn, they're annoying as fuck.

 

[TwinSideWings]

The MC came to negotiate, without an army at his back while being surrounded by an army of Orcs... he made his point clear and demonstrated his power to make it sit... but killing their leader would have been a suicidal mission at that point.

Damn... you have a point there. Though i really want to bang her

 

[Evangelion-01]

Damn... you have a point there. Though i really want to bang her

The Problem with the main settlement hasn't been dealt with... if anything after your "negotiations" the agression flared up again... you'll get your chance evenutally

 

[albul]

I used to be like you my friend.

Horribly vanilla. Unable to appreciate the most unusual things in life. You see, I never got bored of what I liked buuuut...I did get jaded. And you will too.

And this game? Short of losing in fights, the NTR doesn't hurt, not really. Because you are the one in control. This game has NTR that you don't feel bad about and, as someone just getting on the kink, THAT is amazing.

Analyse the reasons why you hate Cuckoldry and you will see that what I am saying is right. And perhaps you don't like it right now, but some day, well, I would bet that you'll be in the state of mind to actually appreciate it.

Don't act like everybody is the same, or will end up the same. Don't act like vanilla is "horrible". People like what they like, no need to analyse or convince themselves that they should like it just because others like it. Do you go through the same process of analysis with other fetishes as well? Like, have you convinced yourself you should like scat, pegging, vore or one of the hundreds of the fringe fetishes?

Not that I agree with the poster you answered to, as he was clearly saying it in a insulting manner. But your points (besides your personal preferences) don't make sense.

 

[Wolf Larsen]

Man, the point is that most ntr-haters call ntr anything. Sharing is sharing, being cucked is being cucked, forchrissake.

An orgy is not ntr. Whenever they see a dick which doesn't belong to MC they start barking like a rabid dog: damn, they're annoying as fuck.

I definitely can be annoying, that's why I avoid throwing the NTR word around. Something might not be NTR, but still annoy the non-NTR player (rape for instance... it's obviously not betrayal, but I don't want to see this happening to one of the girls).

Chyos managed to do so well because he understood both audiences... play with NTR-off and the MC will be the only one doing all the action. A harem experience, something the anti-NTR crowd love. And at the same time, this game also has NTR. It was very well thought and he definitely did some research before releasing this game. Shame that many devs apparently don't do that.

 

[TwinSideWings]

i have spiked yasmine's tea many times but her corruption is not increasing... is this a bug? or i miss something. I haven't talk to her at all though

 

[zARRR]

I definitely can be annoying, that's why I avoid throwing the NTR word around. Something might not be NTR, but still annoy the non-NTR player (rape for instance... it's obviously not betrayal, but I don't want to see this happening to one of the girls).

Chyos managed to do so well because he understood both audiences... play with NTR-off and the MC will be the only one doing all the action. A harem experience, something the anti-NTR crowd love. And at the same time, this game also has NTR. It was very well thought and he definitely did some research before releasing this game. Shame that many devs apparently don't do that.

Yeah Chyos masterfully did it right, and the best part is that NTR and not NTR feels natural to the plot and the world, and doesn’t feel forced, (*coff* Not like some other game *coff coff*) ASWS makes both sides happy and hungry for more

 

[Evangelion-01]

i have spiked yasmine's tea many times but her corruption is not increasing... is this a bug? or i miss something. I haven't talk to her at all though

There you have it... you need to talk to Yasmine and before you ask for Julia as your bride/reward for finding Liandra

 

[Samsul Hidayat]

Tia & Imawyn bonus scene is next, then Ophilia's main update. Frisha won the last bonus scene and then Anya for sure is winning the current main poll.

Poor Anya, only now getting some content lmao.

 

[Samsul Hidayat]

Currently I'm starting to play through the game after the update a while back that caused the gamers to start over and I was trying to decide how much if any corruption to do to the girls. Some girls (Tia for example) I wanted to corrupt and others (Penny, and others) I was unsure of. I know with Imawyn (I think that's her name) I wanted to go down her "Love" path but not sure if you could corrupt her afterwards or even if I wanted to.

So, my general question... In your games do you guys go full corruption and damn the consequences, do you try to stay pure and good, or do you try a hybrid style (corrupt with some and love with others)? If you do a hybrid style, who do you corrupt and who don't you corrupt?

I go for full love route, problem is I'm forced to corrupt Hiba since I need Basic Alchemy recipes. Wish Chyos would add another way to get it instead of cucking Tomak all the time lmao.

Poor lad did nothing wrong.

 

[Samsul Hidayat]

Can you bang Athia in the tub or only in her room?

Both

 

[Samsul Hidayat]

I hate NTR and if this game didn't have the NTR off button and still so much content, I would have never become a fan.

Still, it's very impressive what Chyos managed to pull it off... his player base is divided between the ntr crowd and anti-NTR like me. I don't know any other dev that became successful in this, catering to both audiences and keeping them both happy. Most of them fail miserably and surround themselves with controversy and flame war.

I wonder if Chyos would have more patrons if he didn't create NTR at all... but it's not like he's doing bad though.

I hate NTR, but I keep the NTR on since it only appears as punishment for bad decisions and/or if players themselves voluntarily seek them.
I feel like that's the key to Chyos's success; optional NTR. It doesn't suffocate the anti-NTRs with its presence, yet it gives us extra incentive to play well so you could avoid it entirely.
I personally feel more satisfied if I manage to prevent an NTR scenario, like watching Dave fumbling around like a tard in front of Frisha, then saving her from him.

 

[Ottoeight]

I personally feel more satisfied if I manage to prevent an NTR scenario, like watching Dave fumbling around like a tard in front of Frisha, then saving her from him.

Yeah, fuck you Dave. Frisha is mine

 

[zARRR]

I go for full love route, problem is I'm forced to corrupt Hiba since I need Basic Alchemy recipes. Wish Chyos would add another way to get it instead of cucking Tomak all the time lmao.

Poor lad did nothing wrong.

Didn’t Chyos add another way to put Alchemy?

 

[mrttao]

I hate NTR, but I keep the NTR on since it only appears as punishment for bad decisions and/or if players themselves voluntarily seek them.

It also appears as punishment for not using the walkthrough.
Far too many NTRs trigger based on time here, and far too many "go into obscure location X at exactly hour Y". or "find the wine in closet in the room at house Z. replace it with different kind of wine"

 

[zARRR]

It also appears as punishment for not using the walkthrough.
Far too many NTRs trigger based on time here, and far too many "go into obscure location X at exactly hour Y". or "find the wine in closet in the room at house Z. replace it with different kind of wine"

Nah man, I do believe it ain’t the case for being a punishment for not using the walkthrough, For Frisha and Dave it’s clear as the day for the bottle problem and even if you fail you can storm in, at the last minute.
For Penny it can be tricky but you can kick the boyfriend out of the house in one day the questlog helps.
Tia and Lyvia mostly lose battles, same with the dwarves ladies et cetera.
Some of the NTR choices are also basically yes get cucked\ no cucking (like Natasha).

 

[Evangelion-01]

It also appears as punishment for not using the walkthrough.
Far too many NTRs trigger based on time here, and far too many "go into obscure location X at exactly hour Y". or "find the wine in closet in the room at house Z. replace it with different kind of wine"

Time more or less freezes if you are not present... if you watch Frisha visiting Dave she'll drink the corrupted wine, but if you are out of town for example, she won't drink the wine and leave after dinner

 

[mrttao]

Time more or less freezes if you are not present...

Walkthrough explicitly warns you that it doesn't.
Various NTR scenes happen after X days since a specific non obvious trigger if you do not stop it.
Only if you have NTR switched off then you have all the time in the world.

 

[Evangelion-01]

Walkthrough explicitly warns you that it doesn't.
Various NTR scenes happen after X days since a specific non obvious trigger if you do not stop it.
Only if you have NTR switched off then you have all the time in the world.

In the beginning it was meant that way (for example if you didn't stop Frisha from going to the dinner Date by running into her in the city map), but later Chyos made it a bit more forgiving so people not accidentaly trigger the NTR route for a girl just because they are not present... the only time relevant NTR Quest is not saveing Gavina and Bianca after being defeated by goblins or leaving them behind in the dwarfen Town