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mrttao

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Don't be so sure. The girls hate being sent to the orcs, Palak and Tomak don't really like it when their girls are sent to them either, Nyra keeps saying the soup is thin due to lack of food.
The issue is that you are considering only "is there currently NTR"
The orc plot has to change to account for the fact there was peace for a time via sending girls over
All the dialog with every NPC in rumah has to change to account for the fact there was some peace and also they lived under Dasan tyranny.

There are some similarities in a "dasan then MC" scenario to a "never dasan" scenario, in that in both cases the MC ends up as the ruler of rumah. But its not as simply as just going "set NTR = 0;"
 
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All the dialog with every NPC in rumah has to change to account for the fact there was some peace and also they lived under Dasan tyranny.
There's as much as peace as if MC becomes chieftain and decides to send girls to the orcs every single time. As for the orcs, there's already dialogue for if Gurtak has striken a deal with you. In other words, that changes nothing.

Like I said, there was his tyranny sure, but that can be easily handled. MC would decide if the girls continue to contribute or not, possibly on a case by case. As for the guards + hunters, they could say something like "I can't believe we stooped as low as Dasan for so long..."... although if MC can let the girls whore themselves to the hunters, it'd be more like what Dasan's friend says: "I should've known, Dasan was a coward"! The Rumah do value strength + courage + honour very highly.

Beyond the dethroning cutscene where everything unravels, there wouldn't be any need for more. Not that I can see at least, I could be wrong.
I will agree that it'd still require a bit of work to code the branching and test out whether that works without breaking anything obvious. Thanks for the talk btw, I love trading speculations like that.
 

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There's as much as peace as if MC becomes chieftain and decides to send girls to the orcs every single time. As for the orcs, there's already dialogue for if Gurtak has striken a deal with you. In other words, that changes nothing.

Like I said, there was his tyranny sure, but that can be easily handled. MC would decide if the girls continue to contribute or not, possibly on a case by case. As for the guards + hunters, they could say something like "I can't believe we stooped as low as Dasan for so long..."... although if MC can let the girls whore themselves to the hunters, it'd be more like what Dasan's friend says: "I should've known, Dasan was a coward"! The Rumah do value strength + courage + honour very highly.

Beyond the dethroning cutscene where everything unravels, there wouldn't be any need for more. Not that I can see at least, I could be wrong.
I will agree that it'd still require a bit of work to code the branching and test out whether that works without breaking anything obvious. Thanks for the talk btw, I love trading speculations like that.
Putting your logic behind the game mechanics don't allow for such a route change, if you have chosen a route your are trapped in it.
This had been true from the start and is always told and warned to you by the game... Dassan ruleing is part of this.
 
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Putting your logic behind the game mechanics don't allow for such a route change, if you have chosen a route your are trapped in it.
This had been true from the start and is always told and warned to you by the game... Dassan ruleing is part of this.
I actually agree, but there's for instance Thomas blackmailing Kate which you can choose to stop. Although I've since realised that it's part of Kate's route and you can immediately resume it with no way to end it... at least of yet? Ophilia seems to want to take the inn so that could mean no more Thomas => no more NTR, canceling the route.

I'm 90% certain that once you've stuck with Dasan, you're stuck with Dasan. But one can hope... Yeah, I hate him and wish for him to die in every possible scenario. Either that or have a redemption arc because I don't want Ibhar's legacy to be fully gone in the wind. Poor guy doesn't deserve that.
 
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I actually agree, but there's for instance Thomas blackmailing Kate which you can choose to stop. Although I've since realised that it's part of Kate's route and you can immediately resume it with no way to end it... at least of yet? Ophilia seems to want to take the inn so that could mean no more Thomas => no more NTR, canceling the route.

I'm 90% certain that once you've stuck with Dasan, you're stuck with Dasan. But one can hope... Yeah, I hate him and wish for him to die in every possible scenario. Either that or have a redemption arc because I don't want Ibhar's legacy to be fully gone in the wind. Poor guy doesn't deserve that.
This only triggers if you havn't started her NTR route yet, after triggering the NTr it won't stop no matter what you do, you can switch to NTR route ever once in a while but never back.
Even if you disable NTR in the Options the girls will still cheat on MC.
For Pia it's more likely that she'll fall prey to Thomas same as Kate and eventually she'll be contempt with being his little whore if you pursuit the NTR route I am afraid.
MC is Ibhars legacy, it's MC that defeats Gurtak and ensures peace for Rumah, he even marries his former wife/widow.
Maybe Ibhars line dies out, but his ideals life on in the MC and the Rumah he builds
 
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There's as much as peace as if MC becomes chieftain and decides to send girls to the orcs every single time. As for the orcs, there's already dialogue for if Gurtak has striken a deal with you. In other words, that changes nothing.

Like I said, there was his tyranny sure, but that can be easily handled. MC would decide if the girls continue to contribute or not, possibly on a case by case. As for the guards + hunters, they could say something like "I can't believe we stooped as low as Dasan for so long..."... although if MC can let the girls whore themselves to the hunters, it'd be more like what Dasan's friend says: "I should've known, Dasan was a coward"! The Rumah do value strength + courage + honour very highly.

Beyond the dethroning cutscene where everything unravels, there wouldn't be any need for more. Not that I can see at least, I could be wrong.
I will agree that it'd still require a bit of work to code the branching and test out whether that works without breaking anything obvious. Thanks for the talk btw, I love trading speculations like that.
Look, dialog just does not work this way.
If you have your way people will point out, correctly, that the dialog is all wrong and does not fit what actually happened.
Different events necessitate different dialog. So the author will have to write said dialog.
You can't just flip a switch from route A to route B.
And realistically, people are going to choose the route they actually want ahead of time. or save before the choice and try both routes.
 

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For some reason, Defensive Strike doesn't work the 2nd time I use it in battle (at least once I get Lyvia). To repeat the bug, have both MC and Lyvia use it on the first turn, do something else (like regular attack) then Defensive Strike with both again. No defense buff. Tried waiting one more turn, same thing. The 3rd time works though. It can be quite frustrating when one has a defense debuff and gets attacked, taking a massive hit even though they should've been defending.

Also, both Tia and Lyvia were able to equip an old buckler despite only having 3 in Armour Proficiency. That should only be enough for "normal armour" (whatever that means, but I'm guessing iron armour), it's only at 6 that the tooltip states the character can equip bucklers. Speaking of stats, I haven't noticed any difference in HP nor EN after increasing Constitution. Does it only apply after one level up? No clue about the other stats, I didn't check, but HP and EN are both visible on the left screen when improving a stat so that was easy to see.

On a completely unrelated note, does someone have the link to the mod that changes Frisha's father? Tried to find it but couldn't. If not it's ok, I can live with it as my headcanon.
 
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For some reason, Defensive Strike doesn't work the 2nd time I use it in battle (at least once I get Lyvia). To repeat the bug, have both MC and Lyvia use it on the first turn, do something else (like regular attack) then Defensive Strike with both again. No defense buff. Tried waiting one more turn, same thing. The 3rd time works though. It can be quite frustrating when one has a defense debuff and gets attacked, taking a massive hit even though they should've been defending.

Also, both Tia and Lyvia were able to equip an old buckler despite only having 3 in Armour Proficiency. That should only be enough for "normal armour" (whatever that means, but I'm guessing iron armour), it's only at 6 that the tooltip states the character can equip bucklers. Speaking of stats, I haven't noticed any difference in HP nor EN after increasing Constitution. Does it only apply after one level up? No clue about the other stats, I didn't check, but HP and EN are both visible on the left screen when improving a stat so that was easy to see.

On a completely unrelated note, does someone have the link to the mod that changes Frisha's father? Tried to find it but couldn't. If not it's ok, I can live with it as my headcanon.
It’s a bug I also remember it, but I forgot it, I’ll report it to the big man
 
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For some reason, Defensive Strike doesn't work the 2nd time I use it in battle (at least once I get Lyvia). To repeat the bug, have both MC and Lyvia use it on the first turn, do something else (like regular attack) then Defensive Strike with both again. No defense buff. Tried waiting one more turn, same thing. The 3rd time works though. It can be quite frustrating when one has a defense debuff and gets attacked, taking a massive hit even though they should've been defending.
I thought Defensive Strike DEF bonus isn't guaranteed 100%, and when MC is Tired the chance goes even lower?
 
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" IF ntr is enabled Arianna will also look for another way to find relief in the meantime and will visit Corven's tent " 1668573932367.png
 
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It means he bang his daughter
His daughter is dead.
If you give Arianna the Strong Anesthetic instead of have sex after rescuing her, then visit Corven camp at 4 pm, Arianna will go visit him. Peek at his tent, they are talking.
The third time you peek at them they start fucking.

AFAIK they don't fuck if you are not at Corven camp and peek at them.
 

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" IF ntr is enabled Arianna will also look for another way to find relief in the meantime and will visit Corven's tent " View attachment 2172733
It means he bang his daughter
Dudes c’mon, it’s understandable with Giron or even a Thomas father.
But Corven?
Absolutely not, if he fucks Arianna he does it reluctantly after three meetings, he talks to her and in the end he decides to help.
Daddy Corven theory doesn’t hold, and ain’t gonna discuss it more
 
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