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Solak

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No, his addiction explain his behaviour perfectly. Not all people who has an addiction will act all the time with the interest of getting a shot, that's not how it works. And Rick gets a payment from his parents to fuel up his addiction, things would change if his parents cut the faucet, then we would see more that behaviour you talk about, like stealing shit, borrow money, scam others etc. He doesn't pay him a room because he want to save his money to pay up his addiction and tip the girl he wants to be near.

His name doesn't have to mean "being a dick", or a lot of people with the name Rick would have a really bad time. In some countries Rick means "brave leader". So it is not really an argument.
In real life people with addictions that have friends or "friends" do things like that to them, after all addict people are ill, sick and needs help before helping others, their mind and way of think is different from healthy people.There are documented cases, and research studies of this type of people.

So, let's put on their shoes, shall we.
Rick is an addict with all the repercussion that it has.(And he could lied about the shelter, just for the sake of not paying him the room, like and addict would do.)

The MC is an "addict" of somehow until he lost his family and everything he has.He is desperate,so desperate that he doesn't think about "going into a forest in the middle of the night, with orcs, predators, and who knows who wandering" if it is really a good idea. An idea that comes from a "friend" that has an addiction like him.

And if we go even further, there are more neighbours in Arenfield to ask for shelter, even the fucking Church (charity and all this shit) but instead he goes in the middle of the night to that place. I don't know man, I would think about it.

I think it is pretty clear the situation that the MC is not in his right mind and Rick too.
So if your desperate friend with an addiction, comes to you, saying that he went in the middle of the night, with all the dangers, that he found the cottage that it "supossedly" exists in Rick's mind( we don't know if he really knew a cottage existed, he didn't go the forest, Arianna has more credibility than an addict, after all she really goes to the forest.), he mets an old witch, she made him drink a potion that can "grow a dick" and "grow his lust"(something that for comonners is not even thinkable), and the witch fucked him(depend on the path you choose),would you believe it?
I don't know man but my eyebrow would rise when I listen that, knowing everything.

About Thomas is not an excuse. People when they lost everything, they need help, not matter the situation. He could send him to the church, or make him work for the night to sleep in the hay.And it is not like Thomas didin't know about the MC losing his father.
You don't enable an addict if you want to help them. Giving MC free food and/or shelter would've been enabling him. Had that happened, he wouldn't even have tried to change. he'd have become a freeloader, a parasite.

While Tomas and Giron are indeed pieces of crap, not helping MC was the right thing to do in that instance. Some lessons must be learned the hard way if things are to change. Look at Marcus. He enabled MC's drinking problems and they only got worse. Same for Rick's parents.

So while I agree Rick is an addict, indulging in him (like MC is doing) is a shitty thing to do and the wrong way to go about it. What MC should do is give Rick a slap in the face, tell him "I was forced to stop, now look at how hard I've worked and how far I've come, you can do the same" and force him to grow the fuck up. Rick has shown he is actually pretty skillful, after all. He's wasting his talents away because no one is willing to take on the role of the "bad guy".
 
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zARRR

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But we all agree that boobs are great.
No, it’s not a matter for discussion, case closed, or I’ll throw you the corpse of Dasan
 
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Well the last thing I gonna say about this is:

There are misunderstandings here, from my part and probably trying to explain some things.
But I want to say that even if he is really an addict and explain his behaviour, that's doesnt mean the mc or others must accept it and go with it. Of course if he is an addict, needs help and would be nice to say an update about that.

Also people showing human charity giving shelter for a day doesn't mean that people would be the same,.
Everyone is unique,so if we use drastic solutions, like cutting the root of the problem would not work on everyone in a delicate matter as an addiction. Or Mc way of keep living. There are people too who, after losing everyone and everything will commit suicide.
We need to see more than that.

The mc went that way because if the dev went to other way, we would have a short game.

And so, about Rick behaviour, I am open that could be an addiction, Rick being a dick, or a mix of the two, thedev has the final answer to that, and he can put all the explanations into a single: Yes, no, or kinda.

We will see, in the end.

By the way, addicts have more behaviour patterns that we often know and talk about, but it is true that all of them when they start this type of behaviour as an addict, their brain stops working normally,giving more dopamine when they get their "shot",blocking the reabsorption.
 
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Tehemai

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I guess so. To be clear, I don't think he's a villain. As in the power hungry rapists that are common in the game. Just not remotely a good person, regardless of his addiction. He's not worthy of empathy as he shows virtually none to the people he supposedly cares about. Even when they desperately need it. It's the perfect response for MC to just ignore his plight outside of drinking fun and just take whatever girl he wants.

If Chyos eventually does a redemption, I at least hope he retcons something early on to make him worthy of redemption. Show signs of giving a shit. Maybe have him try to tepidly stand up to his mother. Or have him get himself arrested for the night drunkenly trying to help.

As for boobs, we do agree. So much so, I say we get a plot related options to upgrade some of them. I'm looking at you, Lyvia! :p
 
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A...interestinh bug,Mira is still inside the sanctum, but here she is and i cant have dinner
probably trigger by the emily quest where MC build the root and collapse,Mira talk and put MC back on the bed (her model didn't appear) and since that her model is here at her room
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A...interestinh bug,Mira is still inside the sanctum, but here she is and i cant have dinner
probably trigger by the emily quest where MC build the root and collapse,Mira talk and put MC back on the bed (her model didn't appear) and since that her model is here at her room
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You usually solve these problems by going to sleep till next morning.
 

Logan3000x

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do I need to do kate's quest in order to do claire's? I am talking about number 9 in the walkthrough, I cant do it.
 
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do I need to do kate's quest in order to do claire's? I am talking about number 9 in the walkthrough, I cant do it.
You can start a relationship with Claire (fucking her so she wants MCs children) before Kate, but you need to advance Kate's relationship in order to have 3 somes and start going to Kirlic
 
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Logan3000x

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You can start a relationship with Claire (fucking her so she wants MCs children) before Kate, but you need to advance Kate's relationship in order to have 3 somes and start going to Kirlic
Then my game has a bug because I can't get her to step 9 in the walkthrough (I peel the potatoes but she doesn't ask me to do down with her to the basement) ( I haven't started Kate's quest yet) (Claire's aff is 12)
 

Solak

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Then my game has a bug because I can't get her to step 9 in the walkthrough (I peel the potatoes but she doesn't ask me to do down with her to the basement) ( I haven't started Kate's quest yet) (Claire's aff is 12)
If I'm not mistaken, you need to actually talk to her after peeling the potatoes. That's when she'll ask you.
 
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Is it possible to use the same save for an earlier version of the game to play the new updated version? Or do I need to start the game again if I download the updated version of the game?
 

zARRR

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Anyone have new walkthrough?
Could you please update 0525 walkthrough? I want to avoid mistakes to affect the play .
There is NO 5.2.5. walkthroughs goddamnit!
How many times do I have to tell you, a walkthrough is made for X.0. updates not X.5.!
Even without a walkthrough if a choice is presented to you, use your brain, like… do you even need a walkthrough in real life when an old man coming from a dark alley offers you some candies?
Mmmh?
Is it possible to use the same save for an earlier version of the game to play the new updated version? Or do I need to start the game again if I download the updated version of the game?
You mean transferring saves from an old to new game version?
Bruh
 
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DeminPatyon

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There is NO 5.2.5. walkthroughs goddamnit!
How many times do I have to tell you, a walkthrough is made for X.0. updates not X.5.!
Even without a walkthrough if a choice is presented to you use your brain, like… do you even need a walkthrough in real life when an old man coming from a dark alley offers you some candies?
Mmmh?
using brain is overrated
 

Ottoeight

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Could you please update 0525 walkthrough? I want to avoid mistakes to affect the play .
Bro, you have 40 save slots, you know.



Is it possible to use the same save for an earlier version of the game to play the new updated version? Or do I need to start the game again if I download the updated version of the game?
Bro, this is a RPGM game. Your saves are in the www/save folder. Just copy and paste.


Bros, you are breaking my heart.
 
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Akali69

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There is NO 5.2.5. walkthroughs goddamnit!
How many times do I have to tell you, a walkthrough is made for X.0. updates not X.5.!
Even without a walkthrough if a choice is presented to you use your brain, like… do you even need a walkthrough in real life when an old man coming from a dark alley offers you some candies?
Mmmh?
In fact playing at .5 tends to be less rewarding than at .0

At least for me in the last 6 months where maybe it's better to play every two updates
 

Logan3000x

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If I'm not mistaken, you need to actually talk to her after peeling the potatoes. That's when she'll ask you.
I have tried already, all she says is that I have worked hard and that I can go upstairs to sleep ( something along those lines)
 
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