Apartment817

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There are nearly 40 LI's in the game so far, which means to get to content end, the MC seduces 39 other woman that are not Mira. Including Mira's mother, sister, and EVERY SINGLE woman Mira has ever met in her life. Every single one.

Which means canonically Mira isn't the MC's special one and only. You don't have to take my word for it, the fact that there isn't dialogue programmed for the MC to lose his virginity to Mira, but there is regarding Isha proves it. If canonically it was important the dialogue would be there. It's just not.

I think that at the end of the day, it would make the MC a dirtbag if there was a bit of "oh, you are so special to me, I love no one but you" since it would ultimately become a lie after the MC seduces every woman Mira has ever met. So it's better to have the MC as poly through and through, it makes him not a liar.

Mira being his special one at any point would later make him a complete liar and adulterer.
 

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There are nearly 40 LI's in the game so far, which means to get to content end, the MC seduces 39 other woman that are not Mira. Including Mira's mother, sister, and EVERY SINGLE woman Mira has ever met in her life. Every single one.

Which means canonically Mira isn't the MC's special one and only. You don't have to take my word for it, the fact that there isn't dialogue programmed for the MC to lose his virginity to Mira, but there is regarding Isha proves it. If canonically it was important the dialogue would be there. It's just not.

I think that at the end of the day, it would make the MC a dirtbag if there was a bit of "oh, you are so special to me, I love no one but you" since it would ultimately become a lie after the MC seduces every woman Mira has ever met. So it's better to have the MC as poly through and through, it makes him not a liar.

Mira being his special one at any point would later make him a complete liar and adulterer.
But no one here is saying that Mira is the special or canonical character. Every woman in the game can be the player's special character. Chyos is the only one who could say if there's a special woman for the MC. Which I doubt will happen.
It seems clear to me that Mira, like Gwen or Athia, or any of the 40 available women, is indeed special. They are all part of a grand scheme that will lead them to become part of a single harem in the end.
So, in a certain sense, they are all special. That is, of course, if the player decides to include all the various women in the game.

I brought this up because in the game, you can see who the women lost their virginity to, but you don't know who the MC lost it to. You can usually tell he's a virgin because during the intro, Gwen or at least the MC lets you know that he is virgin or was a virgin if you do sex with Gwen.

Considering how Chyos loves to write the plot and how he loves to add little details, it's expected that certain characters will have a certain conversation. Not with all of them, but with some, for sure. How do you know if a character should have a certain detail or not? It seems very simple to me.
Not all women in the game are available until you've been sexually passed on to someone else.
Let's take Verena, for example. To have access to her, unless I'm making a mistake, you must first have sex with Arianna. I don't think you can avoid doing so. To advance Arianna's quest, you must sleep with her. And only when Arianna is finally released from custody can you finally begin Verena's sex journey. Therefore, with Arianna, you can expect the conversation: MC can be a virgin. And therefore lose his virginity to Arianna. But if you want to lose your virginity to Verena, you can't.

This is to make you understand that Chyos has created a path where you can remain chaste until that woman. With that woman, you have to have a conversation where both admit it's their first time. The only exception is if you end up in bed with a mother, of course. In that case, the only virgin would be the MC, if you managed to get there while still being chaste. So as I was saying: Mira belongs to that category of women where you have to expect that conversation. Because you don't have to do sex with Emily or Frisha to have sex with Mira.

Another example is: "Katherin," if someone wants to lose their virginity to Katherin, you can't, because you have to systematically be with Tia. Only after having sex with Tia, and doing it in front of Katherin, will she begin to feel sexually attracted to the MC. So with Katherin, there's no virgin MC. But with Tia, yes. And if you have sex with Tia, you expect the MC to let you know he's still a virgin. Or at least guess that he is still a virgin.

Obviously, with girls, there are two ways to tell. The first is that there's only one animation showing the breaking of the hymen. Therefore, blood loss during intercourse. Unless you disable it in the game options. In that case, just go to the relationships menu and see who lost their virginity to whom. But as I was saying, that's not possible with the MC. There's no record of that kind of information about him. Which is something I'd like to see.
 
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But no one here is saying that Mira is the special or canonical character. Every woman in the game can be the player's special character. Chyos is the only one who could say if there's a special woman for the MC. Which I doubt will happen.
It seems clear to me that Mira, like Gwen or Athia, or any of the 40 available women, is indeed special. They are all part of a grand scheme that will lead them to become part of a single harem in the end.
So, in a certain sense, they are all special. That is, of course, if the player decides to include all the various women in the game.

I brought this up because in the game, you can see who the women lost their virginity to, but you don't know who the MC lost it to. You can usually tell he's a virgin because during the intro, Gwen or at least the MC lets you know that he is virgin or was a virgin if you do sex with Gwen.

Considering how Chyos loves to write the plot and how he loves to add little details, it's expected that certain characters will have a certain conversation. Not with all of them, but with some, for sure. How do you know if a character should have a certain detail or not? It seems very simple to me.
Not all women in the game are available until you've been sexually passed on to someone else.
Let's take Verena, for example. To have access to her, unless I'm making a mistake, you must first have sex with Arianna. I don't think you can avoid doing so. To advance Arianna's quest, you must sleep with her. And only when Arianna is finally released from custody can you finally begin Verena's sex journey. Therefore, with Arianna, you can expect the conversation: MC can be a virgin. And therefore lose his virginity to Arianna. But if you want to lose your virginity to Verena, you can't.

This is to make you understand that Chyos has created a path where you can remain chaste until that woman. With that woman, you have to have a conversation where both admit it's their first time. The only exception is if you end up in bed with a mother, of course. In that case, the only virgin would be the MC, if you managed to get there while still being chaste. So as I was saying: Mira belongs to that category of women where you have to expect that conversation. Because you don't have to do sex with Emily or Frisha to have sex with Mira.

Another example is: "Katherin," if someone wants to lose their virginity to Katherin, you can't, because you have to systematically be with Tia. Only after having sex with Tia, and doing it in front of Katherin, will she begin to feel sexually attracted to the MC. So with Katherin, there's no virgin MC. But with Tia, yes. And if you have sex with Tia, you expect the MC to let you know he's still a virgin. Or at least guess that he is still a virgin.

Obviously, with girls, there are two ways to tell. The first is that there's only one animation showing the breaking of the hymen. Therefore, blood loss during intercourse. Unless you disable it in the game options. In that case, just go to the relationships menu and see who lost their virginity to whom. But as I was saying, that's not possible with the MC. There's no record of that kind of information about him. Which is something I'd like to see.
You don't trust your memory? I don't think Chyos foresaw a need to document who took the MC's virginity, since if that is an important detail in a playthrough, one should be able to remember this one tiny fact. Either it is important to the player, or it isn't. Wanting a new menu screen, along with the time spent to create it just to document something that should easily be remembered is a waste of time.

It wouldn't make any sense for the MC to have an entry in the Relations tab, so it would have to be a whole new section of the menu somewhere, just to document something that if it was important enough for you to care about, you likely made it a point to target that LI first. Making specific game adjustments to accomplish that goal.

If that is a fact you would like to know about your playthrough, but have memory issues, write it down.

If an LI in the game has children, the MC can't take her virginity. If she has no children, the MC can.

The MC actually can lose his virginity to Verena, get the key from drunk Rick. Wait for a cult night, sneak into Verena's room with high dexterity and lust.

Katherin and the other woman of Rumah are just about the only LI's that the MC can't lose his virginity to. It's just as easy to lose it to Frisha or Emily as it is Mira.
 
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