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Apartment817

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Overly religious girls do exactly that before marriage. :KEK:

While I agree on some aspect that a sexual act is a sexual act, you don't "lose" virginity from a bj or hj.
Though if we go by religious girls definition of "purity" and virginity a lot of gay men and women stay virgins their whole life. :LUL:
I grew up in Idaho, there were a lot of LDS members there. If you have never heard of "soaking" have a good laugh:

It's "just the tip" turned up to 11. I don't know of anyone that confessed to soaking but I first heard of it at least twenty years ago.
 

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can somone share a complete save please NTR if possible
The link in the OP has one. Click on this post as well to get to it.


NonNTR/NTR save

Edit: I updated the save to recent content, and I better not see "save pls" or I'll oiled you up like Diddy.
Save version0.6.1.0
It doesn't have Katherin's Dasan scenes that were added in v0.6.1.1, but that is all that it is missing. No NTR was added in v0.6.1.5, the only scenes added in that update take place in the MC's bed.
 

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I grew up in Idaho, there were a lot of LDS members there. If you have never heard of "soaking" have a good laugh:

It's "just the tip" turned up to 11.
I had heard of it but never encountered it myself, the anal only religious girls I have lol
It's less and less common now I think, but as a teen I had 2 gfs like that, surprise surprise they didn't make it "pure" to their weddings, one even got married very quickly because she got knocked up.
 
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The link in the OP has one. Click on this post as well to get to it.




It doesn't have Katherin's Dasan scenes that were added in v0.6.1.1, but that is all that it is missing. No NTR was added in v0.6.1.5, the only scenes added in that update take place in the MC's bed.
what is the differnce in the 3 saves he has there
 

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There are nearly 40 LI's in the game so far, which means to get to content end, the MC seduces 39 other woman that are not Mira. Including Mira's mother, sister, and EVERY SINGLE woman Mira has ever met in her life. Every single one.

Which means canonically Mira isn't the MC's special one and only. You don't have to take my word for it, the fact that there isn't dialogue programmed for the MC to lose his virginity to Mira, but there is regarding Isha proves it. If canonically it was important the dialogue would be there. It's just not.

I think that at the end of the day, it would make the MC a dirtbag if there was a bit of "oh, you are so special to me, I love no one but you" since it would ultimately become a lie after the MC seduces every woman Mira has ever met. So it's better to have the MC as poly through and through, it makes him not a liar.

Mira being his special one at any point would later make him a complete liar and adulterer.
Mc is adulterer already in the game. Only Tia, few other women in rumah and possibly in Julia update so far can be had after declaration of relationship publicly

You don't trust your memory? I don't think Chyos foresaw a need to document who took the MC's virginity, since if that is an important detail in a playthrough, one should be able to remember this one tiny fact. Either it is important to the player, or it isn't. Wanting a new menu screen, along with the time spent to create it just to document something that should easily be remembered is a waste of time.

It wouldn't make any sense for the MC to have an entry in the Relations tab, so it would have to be a whole new section of the menu somewhere, just to document something that if it was important enough for you to care about, you likely made it a point to target that LI first. Making specific game adjustments to accomplish that goal.

If that is a fact you would like to know about your playthrough, but have memory issues, write it down.

If an LI in the game has children, the MC can't take her virginity. If she has no children, the MC can.

The MC actually can lose his virginity to Verena, get the key from drunk Rick. Wait for a cult night, sneak into Verena's room with high dexterity and lust.

Katherin and the other woman of Rumah are just about the only LI's that the MC can't lose his virginity to. It's just as easy to lose it to Frisha or Emily as it is Mira.

Wanting special dialogue about the MC's virginity for 35 unique situations is also not development time efficient, you would only see one bit of virginity dialogue per playthrough.

But in order for it to exist, that virginity dialogue would have to make since into each of the situations the MC could lose his virginity. Where that conversation is fluid with or without the virginity bit of dialogue being included. What the MC says to himself while losing it to Verena would be much different than if he lost it to Yasmin in her parlor. In Frisha's bedroom different than in Gavina's bedroom.

A whole lot of effort, possibly an entire development cycle, just to document and have a conversation about the MC's virginity isn't a small ask, it's a big one.
Maui don't have children though. At least never mentioned in the game.

I think it's the religious aspect that has made her unpopular.

Of the current polling, she is third from the bottom with only getting 8% of the votes, even Umah is a point higher with 9%.

Only Anya 3% and Imawyn 5% are doing worse.

But this is only Mira's second poll, where it is Imawyn's fifth. So Mira entered this poll with 58 points already compared to Imawyn's 176.

The poll ends in 9 days, so it (or I) will post a completed version then.

But as I read the tea leaves now.

v0.6.3.0 Tia
v0.6.4.0 Julia
v0.6.5.0 Sophie or Umah
v0.6.6.0 Loser of Sophie or Umah
v0.6.7.0 Between Frisha, Mira and Imawyn.
Do post it.

I tested a bit the threesome, and it seems like Liandra's transformation is a requirement. I went back and warn her about the potion and I've been the last 15 minutes trying to trigger the threesome without success, I did the exact same but letting her take the potion and the threesome triggers immediately after rescuing Yasmine. So that's must be it. It would be nice if people that don't let her transform could confirm this too but from my little test this is what the problem seems to be.
In non ntr side it is easily triggered in the camp without potion required. I guess different requirements in other route.


Do you consider yourself as having lost your virginity when you got your first handy? I certainly don't and don't know anyone else that does. You can have your religious beliefs all day, but assuming you can define the terms that billions of people disagree with is were you become flat wrong.

Isn't porn a sin in your world? If so why are you here, we don't need to be preached at.
I never had anything of the nature in my life so I am virgin.

As far as saying you your else and not knowing someone else having that knowledge, does not mean you know everything of the world. As far as billions of people you are talking about, among those billions is Christianity and islam both say the same. Don't try to push a mere culture of your own country and mix it up with religion itself like that.

Mere make belief is porn now? It's not closely to real at all. If I was taking part in real thing lusting after real stuff, whores, slots, protitutes etc then it will count.

Preaching? How blunt of you. I only told the person sexual acts are sexual acts. That how you lose virginity.

Otherwise by your claim is penetrating vagina is virginity gone. Then what is purity of a person left when women can have all sexual activities apart from vagina by all means she can only do with vagina stuff with husband but rest she do it with the world. What perfect stupid argument you have. Same goes for a man, anything sexual he do but only vaginal sex count as virginity gone?

Pure comedy you are in that regard.

I am not preaching just your and others sense of things distorted.
 

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Overly religious girls do exactly that before marriage. :KEK:

While I agree on some aspect that a sexual act is a sexual act, you don't "lose" virginity from a bj or hj.
Though if we go by religious girls definition of "purity" and virginity a lot of gay men and women stay virgins their whole life. :LUL:
Exactly that bullshit.Yeah those are fraudulent people they think it doesn't count but all of it does.
 

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I had heard of it but never encountered it myself, the anal only religious girls I have lol
It's less and less common now I think, but as a teen I had 2 gfs like that, surprise surprise they didn't make it "pure" to their weddings, one even got married very quickly because she got knocked up.
I am a child, through that soaking article I found the term "poophole loophole" and I am dead.

The fact that wiki will say the term for you makes it better.
 

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I grew up in Idaho, there were a lot of LDS members there. If you have never heard of "soaking" have a good laugh:

It's "just the tip" turned up to 11. I don't know of anyone that confessed to soaking but I first heard of it at least twenty years ago.
Boy if that's not sexual act to you. You are freaking out of your mind completely to distort things to this level.

A man and woman is naked in front of each other and touching each other. It's freaking sexual act dumb ass. Is that how the loopholes for mentally retarded works!!? I thought I was seeing comedy in order Genesis as I was looking at that nun Judy didn't know such retards are in real life too.
 

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what is the differnce in the 3 saves he has there
You only want the last one, first one is no NTR side with Athia, second no NTR side with Isha, and the third is the NTR, I assume it sided with Isha, there isn't an NTR difference between Athia or Isha, but Isha is the more corrupt choice.
 
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Boy if that's not sexual act to you. You are freaking out of your mind completely to distort things to this level.

A man and woman is naked in front of each other and touching each other. It's freaking sexual act dumb ass. Is that how the loopholes for mentally retarded works!!? I thought I was seeing comedy in order Genesis as I was looking at that nun Judy didn't know such retards are in real life too.
Chill the fuck out clown shoes, I didn't say that wasn't sex. Didn't try to imply it, I was laughing with someone else about the lengths some folks go to keep their "virginity" intact.

I do think soaking and the poophole loophole do count as sex, but handies don't.

You are fucking preaching, and you can fuck off with it.

PS I will be making a point of not posting the survey results for a bit, you got me fucked up.
 

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Exactly that bullshit.Yeah those are fraudulent people they think it doesn't count but all of it does.
Boy if that's not sexual act to you. You are freaking out of your mind completely to distort things to this level.

A man and woman is naked in front of each other and touching each other. It's freaking sexual act dumb ass. Is that how the loopholes for mentally retarded works!!? I thought I was seeing comedy in order Genesis as I was looking at that nun Judy didn't know such retards are in real life too.

You've brought up an interesting debate, but it's off-topic to the game, so the mods will probably delete it at one point.

Personally, I only count penetration as losing virginity (pussy or anal) but If a man goes through his life with only bjs and hjs, even though I wouldn't consider him getting his virginity taken, at the same time this man is very different from someone that is for example celibate...they would be a sexually active virgin, maybe. :LUL:

Edit: Also guys, is there a need to insult each other over such a topic?
 
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Edit: Also guys, is there a need to insult each other over such a topic?
No it's not, I let this comment pass:


Just because you think hj and bj is not sex doesn't mean they are not. Anything related to sexual act is sex. No wonder the world have gone more stupid.
It bugged me, and was a direct attack on my intelligence, but I let it pass with my first response. But then I got:


What perfect stupid argument you have...

Pure comedy you are in that regard.

Further in his in reaction to my posting that wiki article to you, I specifically got:

You are freaking out of your mind completely to distort things to this level.

A man and woman is naked in front of each other and touching each other. It's freaking sexual act dumb ass. Is that how the loopholes for mentally retarded works!!?
So yeah, fuck that preachy asshole, he is now ignored.
 
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You've brought up an interesting debate, but it's off-topic to the game, so the mods will probably delete it at one point.

Personally, I only count penetration as losing virginity (pussy or anal) but If a man goes through his life with only bjs and hjs, even though I wouldn't consider him getting his virginity taken, at the same time this man is very different from someone that is for example celibate...they would be a sexually active virgin, maybe. :LUL:

Edit: Also guys, is there a need to insult each other over such a topic?
He is accusing me of preaching when I didn't ask anyone to do anything. Only pointed out what thing defined as what is, he brought culturally accepted sexual acts where a person is pure still after doing them, confusing that all sexual acts count to toward no more pure/virgin. I am not preaching, this is hilraious
 

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You seem to have a magnet though. :HideThePain:
I definitely do, and I am culpable to a lot of it, I think it mostly stems in that I don't half ass say shit, I say it with more force and / or authority than is merited. At the same time, I do think I am pretty careful in what direction I aim it.

At it's heart it is defensive, starting with a strong offense before "enemies" revel themselves means I don't get caught off guard.

But it's also a logical fallacy I purposefully create and lean my arguments on. Using strong word choices to prop up an argument that may have some weakness at it's core.

It helps me win arguments, I am human, I can't deny that I don't intentionally use it. At the same time, it does help some arguments that should win, win that wouldn't win without it. (Of course that is riddled with subjective judgment.)
 
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