RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.5] [Chyos]

[KingAsh91]

If you actually are running the latest version of 0.6.1.0e, then you'll have to share your saves so that we can take a look.

I checked again in my pc and its the 6.0.1d, imma download the latest

Here is the full v0.6.1.0e.

I just did a full replay with it and didn't experience any of the problems you had.

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I checked again in my pc and its the 6.0.1d, imma download the latest and see if it gets fixed.Thanks mate

 

[Spiegelbild]

Thanks for your reply. Hm, I like having Rick and her be a couple while MC bangs her around his back, is that maybe the thing that's blocking the talk with Thomas? Does that lock me into the NTR route? I am pretty sure this was not blocking in earlier versions of the game though.

It just seems silly me to block the route - there's the option to help her, just let us help her?

I just ran another test (Kate A15 C5, affection with Rick at 4): I throw the serving mini-game ("I am not in the mood to work"), go upstairs, help her, talk to her on the bed (didn't start relationship yet since MC didn't put his arm around her yet at the table), go to bed. Next day, I do the exact same thing, and I am not able to help her anymore (not enough money, but I do have enough). Something's got to be bugged here?

When you say "not enough money", what do you mean? that SHE doesn't have enough money or the game saying that YOU don't have enough money to click the option to help her?

I did some test myself and being in a relationship with Rick before starting one with me doesn't block the conversation with Thomas, probably because they are two separate things (same thing with Toren and Ogren, you can reject Thomas and still have NTR with those two). I encouraged Rick to go for Kate, I let them build a relationship, and basically follow the WT to cuck Rick and didn't have any problems with Thomas, doing the same thing I described before.
Then I try something similar to you, I started a relationship with Kate (behind Rick's back and keeping it a secret), I threw the mini game ("I'm not in the mood") and didn't choose to help her up until the point where Thomas started to fuck Kate. I thought this way, the option for the room wouldn't trigger since Thomas already have what he wanted, but I threw another minigame and the option to help her was still there, including "Put an end to this", I chose that and the next day Thomas offer me the room. Although, there is something weird about doing this in this order, if I reject his offer, they will keep having sex "behind my back" and I can't join them, so something is probably broken doing this things in certain orders, or maybe choosing the NTR option ("Im not the mood") locks Kate in that route and "overwrites" rejecting his offer later, I don't know.
In any case, what exactly do you want? I mean, what combination are you looking for?

 

[wiretrppd]

When you say "not enough money", what do you mean? that SHE doesn't have enough money or the game saying that YOU don't have enough money to click the option to help her?

I did some test myself and being in a relationship with Rick before starting one with me doesn't block the conversation with Thomas, probably because they are two separate things (same thing with Toren and Ogren, you can reject Thomas and still have NTR with those two). I encouraged Rick to go for Kate, I let them build a relationship, and basically follow the WT to cuck Rick and didn't have any problems with Thomas, doing the same thing I described before.
Then I try something similar to you, I started a relationship with Kate (behind Rick's back and keeping it a secret), I threw the mini game ("I'm not in the mood") and didn't choose to help her up until the point where Thomas started to fuck Kate. I thought this way, the option for the room wouldn't trigger since Thomas already have what he wanted, but I threw another minigame and the option to help her was still there, including "Put an end to this", I chose that and the next day Thomas offer me the room. Although, there is something weird about doing this in this order, if I reject his offer, they will keep having sex "behind my back" and I can't join them, so something is probably broken doing this things in certain orders, or maybe choosing the NTR option ("Im not the mood") locks Kate in that route and "overwrites" rejecting his offer later, I don't know.
In any case, what exactly do you want? I mean, what combination are you looking for?

I meant, I throw the mini-game, go upstairs, follow the conversation with Thomas, and when I want to "help her", the MC says something along the lines of "shit, I don't have enough money to help" while he does. Even though it worked the night before with the exact same conditions. The option to help her is always there for me after she fails the serving game, but clicking it just has the MC say he doesn't have enough money to help.
It's really weird, I only seem able to help her once.

Anyway, ideally, I'd have her be a couple with Rick, while MC is seeing her around Rick's back. Then get the room from Thomas while he continues blackmailing her into fucking him (and ideally she'd lose her virginity to him too).
The WT is not really helpful here, it's a bit of a jumbled mess of steps.

Maybe I should restart and focus solely on Kate.

 

[Spiegelbild]

I meant, I throw the mini-game, go upstairs, follow the conversation with Thomas, and when I want to "help her", the MC says something along the lines of "shit, I don't have enough money to help" while he does. Even though it worked the night before with the exact same conditions. The option to help her is always there for me after she fails the serving game, but clicking it just has the MC say he doesn't have enough money to help.
It's really weird, I only seem able to help her once.

Anyway, ideally, I'd have her be a couple with Rick, while MC is seeing her around Rick's back. Then get the room from Thomas while he continues blackmailing her into fucking him (and ideally she'd lose her virginity to him too).
The WT is not really helpful here, it's a bit of a jumbled mess of steps.

Maybe I should restart and focus solely on Kate.

Well, this was completely possible
I started the minigame and refused to work, I spied on them and didn't help Kate. I repeated this until Thomas took her virginity. Then I let Rick build a relationship with her (while she's still fucking Thomas), then I raised her affection (20) and corruption (10) and I started a relationship with her behind Rick's back. And after one mini game, the option of "end this" show up, and next day Thomas offered me the room. It was pretty "straightforward" all things considered. It's nice that her inner dialogue somewhat "ajusts" to this situation for example when she have sex with Rick, or the first time she goes to MC's room she's worried about what MC's going to think when he discovers she's no longer a virgin.
Also, during the minigame, most of the time she "endures" being groped by the guards and as her corruption raises she just start enjoying it and behaves like in the "normal" NTR route (because you are in that route at that point I suppose).

 

[nearsora]

anyone have completed new save file?

 

[wiretrppd]

Well, this was completely possible
I started the minigame and refused to work, I spied on them and didn't help Kate. I repeated this until Thomas took her virginity. Then I let Rick build a relationship with her (while she's still fucking Thomas), then I raised her affection (20) and corruption (10) and I started a relationship with her behind Rick's back. And after one mini game, the option of "end this" show up, and next day Thomas offered me the room. It was pretty "straightforward" all things considered. It's nice that her inner dialogue somewhat "ajusts" to this situation for example when she have sex with Rick, or the first time she goes to MC's room she's worried about what MC's going to think when he discovers she's no longer a virgin.
Also, during the minigame, most of the time she "endures" being groped by the guards and as her corruption raises she just start enjoying it and behaves like in the "normal" NTR route (because you are in that route at that point I suppose).

Okay, I'll give it a try myself. Thanks for the help!
I assume you tried on the latest version, yes? I don't understand why MC says he doesn't have enough money when he has.

 

[DestroyerX16]

Can someone send me a 100% save, or almost, with NO NTR and on the witch path?

IF YOU want i can send u

 

[DestroyerX16]

full save no ntr. pls.

if you want i can share

 

[nearsora]

share please

 

[DestroyerX16]

Here is a complete save of love and corruption, witch path, liandara baron , reveal darkholt, church path, no ntr, latest save up to 6.1.0 e save version

 

[DestroyerX16]

share please

please check it is above

 

[Spiegelbild]

Okay, I'll give it a try myself. Thanks for the help!
I assume you tried on the latest version, yes? I don't understand why MC says he doesn't have enough money when he has.

Yes, lastest version. I tried different things to trigger that "bug" but I was always able to help her or to choose to "end this" ‍so no idea what was happenning in your save.

 

[rennerd]

Samsul Hidayat

I think it is a bit buggy, the only way the figures work out is if her taxes are 60 gold 12 silver.

Starts with: 122.62
She makes: 25.12

So has: 147.74 (122.62 + 25.12)
Pays workers: 6.00

Now has: 141.74 (147.74 - 6.00)

But she ends up with: 81.62

Which means she gave Dave: 60.12 (141.74 - 81.62)

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Or I guess it is quite possible that Penny still has 25.12 profit on her person that she hasn't put into the chest yet, likely putting that in it when she sells to Lucien.

I like that idea, because it makes her taxes a flat 35.00.

122.62 starting balance
-35.00 taxes
-6.00 labor
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81.62 ending balance

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Either way it is buggy, just not sure which way, my best guess is that the profit is in on her person, or just wasn't included in that monthly cycle.

The money she makes ends up in the chest. In this tax period, she had made 25. It's basically telling you if she had made enough to pay her taxes. If she hadn't, then it's telling you to give her more vegetables to sell and whatnot, or to put more money in her chest because she can't handle it alone, at least I assume.

 

[Ottoeight]

So I completed Arianna's and Darkholt quests... so I thought I would have triggered her new scenes in the forest...

but now Arianna doesn't shows up anymore (she stopped entering the forest after her transformation near Darkholt), so I can't trigger anal sex and I can't trigger her new scenes.

WTF

Did anyone have the same issue?

 

[Volis]

So I completed Arianna's and Darkholt quests... so I thought I would have triggered her new scenes in the forest...

but now Arianna doesn't shows up anymore (she stopped entering the forest after her transformation near Darkholt), so I can't trigger anal sex and I can't trigger her new scenes.

WTF

Did anyone have the same issue?

If you finished Arianna's quests then every other day she will go to Rumah, you need to speak to her there and ask her to the darkwood.

 

[Samsul Hidayat]

So, I can try and take a stab at explaining this. I don't recall what the taxes are off the top of my head, but you lost 41 gold, so i assume they are 35 gold + 6 for the worker. She accumulates money before she gets to the point where she needs to pay them, or you put money in the chest earlier. Her new fields don't start off profitable, you need more cows to be born, and plenty of chickens in the coop. So, she only made 25 gold, not enough to pay the taxes, so she had to dip into the money she had saved up from before.

Samsul Hidayat

I think it is a bit buggy, the only way the figures work out is if her taxes are 60 gold 12 silver.

Starts with: 122.62
She makes: 25.12

So has: 147.74 (122.62 + 25.12)
Pays workers: 6.00

Now has: 141.74 (147.74 - 6.00)

But she ends up with: 81.62

Which means she gave Dave: 60.12 (141.74 - 81.62)

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Or I guess it is quite possible that Penny still has 25.12 profit on her person that she hasn't put into the chest yet, likely putting that in it when she sells to Lucien.

I like that idea, because it makes her taxes a flat 35.00.

122.62 starting balance
-35.00 taxes
-6.00 labor
_____

81.62 ending balance

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Either way it is buggy, just not sure which way, my best guess is that the profit is in on her person, or just wasn't included in that monthly cycle.

The money she makes ends up in the chest. In this tax period, she had made 25. It's basically telling you if she had made enough to pay her taxes. If she hadn't, then it's telling you to give her more vegetables to sell and whatnot, or to put more money in her chest because she can't handle it alone, at least I assume.

So, is it buggy or not?

I hate math.

 

[SANSBR0990]

Here is a complete save of love and corruption, witch path, liandara baron , reveal darkholt, church path, no ntr, latest save up to 6.1.0 e save version

Here is a complete save of love and corruption, witch path, liandara baron , reveal darkholt, church path, no ntr, latest save up to 6.1.0 e save version

Thank you soooo much, you really saved me! I had lost my 19-hour save, and I had no motivation to play anymore. Thank you!

 

[Apartment817]

The money she makes ends up in the chest. In this tax period, she had made 25. It's basically telling you if she had made enough to pay her taxes. If she hadn't, then it's telling you to give her more vegetables to sell and whatnot, or to put more money in her chest because she can't handle it alone, at least I assume.

In my mind it only makes sense if the debits and credits are both made to the chest during the same financial period, but that does not appear to have happen in this instance.

So, is it buggy or not?

I hate math.

I have done book keeping by trade, it's buggy.

No disrespect to Rennerd, but his math isn't mathin'.

Your chest lost $41.

Likely $35 to Giron, $6 to your workers.


It is likely that Penny still has last months profit in her pocket, ($25.12) but even that is buggy.

Dave walks up to Penny, "you owe me $35".

Penny thinks "well I have $25.12 in my pocket, but I will just leave it in my pocket and pay Dave straight out of the chest, while keeping the $25.12 in my pocket".

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Unless Rennerd wants to argue that Penny's taxes are exactly $60.12 which is a really weird number, and exceptionally high taxes.

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At the end of the day, the only way to make sure her farm is profitable is to make sure you get the eggs out of the chicken coop and into Penny's box (literally right next to the coop) every couple of days.

 

[Spiegelbild]

In my mind it only makes sense if the debits and credits are both made to the chest during the same financial period, but that does not appear to have happen in this instance. Why


I have done book keeping by trade, it's buggy.

No disrespect to Rennerd, but his math isn't mathin'.

Your chest lost $41.

Likely $35 to Giron, $6 to your workers.


It is likely that Penny still has last months profit in her pocket, ($25.12) but even that is buggy.

Dave walks up to Penny, "you owe me $35".

Penny thinks "well I have $25.12 in my pocket, but I will just leave it in my pocket and pay Dave straight out of the chest, while keeping the $25.12 in my pocket".

------

Unless Rennerd wants to argue that Penny's taxes are exactly $60.12 which is a really weird number, and exceptionally high taxes.

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At the end of the day, the only way to make sure her farm is profitable is to make sure you get the eggs out of the chicken coop and into Penny's box (literally right next to the coop) every couple of days.

From what I tested Rennerd is correct. Everything she makes from her sells on Mondays it gets automaticly added to her chest, and when Dave comes, she pays from the money she has there, there's no "pocket money". And she has to pay 41 gold, the messege we get is just to inform us about the balance of that period, in fact it changes depending if the balance is negative or positive: if she didn't make enough, it tells us how much she made in that period, but if she made enough then it shows the profit instead. "Penny made XYZ since last payday" (and she has to use her own money to compensate) vs. "Penny made XYZ after paying taxes".

Here are some screeshots showing how every week she puts the money of her sells in the chest and that taxes are exactly 41 gold.
"penny money - penny money 4" show 4 weeks before Dave came.
"penny money 5" shows the balance after paying taxes 159g 34s (200g 34s - 41g).
Then I skipped one month and penny made 17g 60s so before paying she had 176g 94s (159g 34s + 17g 60s), what the warning means is that she ended up losing money compared to the previous period 135g 94s (176g 94s - 41g).

 

[Apartment817]

From what I tested Rennerd is correct. Everything she makes from her sells on Mondays it gets automaticly added to her chest, and when Dave comes, she pays from the money she has there, there's no "pocket money". And she has to pay 41 gold, the messege we get is just to inform us about the balance of that period, in fact it changes depending if the balance is negative or positive: if she didn't make enough, it tells us how much she made in that period, but if she made enough then it shows the profit instead. "Penny made XYZ since last payday" (and she has to use her own money to compensate) vs. "Penny made XYZ after paying taxes".

Here are some screeshots showing how every week she puts the money of her sells in the chest and that taxes are exactly 41 gold.
"penny money - penny money 4" show 4 weeks before Dave came.
"penny money 5" shows the balance after paying taxes 159g 34s (200g 34s - 41g).
Then I skipped one month and penny made 17g 60s so before paying she had 176g 94s (159g 34s + 17g 60s), what the warning means is that she ended up losing money compared to the previous period 135g 94s (176g 94s - 41g).

I definitely concede to making some math errors, and appreciate your diligence in nailing down exactly how it works. It clearly works the way you demonstrated it to.

I think were confusion comes, including mine, is the the monthly profit and loss statement comes in at the same time she pays the workers. Making it appear like the chest should reflect a loss or gain listed in the P&L just before and after, when in fact the chest additions are made each Monday.

Samsul Hidayat not bugged, watch Penny's chest value gain $ every Monday after Penny sells her vegetables. Then expect Dave to collect $35 each month, and to pay the workers $6.

If the four Monday additions totaled together are less than $41 you get the bad message, more than the good message.