RPGM A Struggle with Sin [v0.6.1.6] [Chyos]

[Apartment817]

There are nearly 40 LI's in the game so far, which means to get to content end, the MC seduces 39 other woman that are not Mira. Including Mira's mother, sister, and EVERY SINGLE woman Mira has ever met in her life. Every single one.

Which means canonically Mira isn't the MC's special one and only. You don't have to take my word for it, the fact that there isn't dialogue programmed for the MC to lose his virginity to Mira, but there is regarding Isha proves it. If canonically it was important the dialogue would be there. It's just not.

I think that at the end of the day, it would make the MC a dirtbag if there was a bit of "oh, you are so special to me, I love no one but you" since it would ultimately become a lie after the MC seduces every woman Mira has ever met. So it's better to have the MC as poly through and through, it makes him not a liar.

Mira being his special one at any point would later make him a complete liar and adulterer.

 

[Hansvoralb]

What the (Katherine’s bonus scene) in this new update, is there something new ? I know about the scenes near the camp fire and the one in the tent group Katherine with tia. Anything else ?

is there a Katherine new scene in 0.6.1.5?

 

[Apartment817]

is there a Katherine new scene in 0.6.1.5?

Changelog explicitly says v0.6.1.1 scene. There is nothing new for her in v0.6.1.5.

 

[Bahamut Zero]

There are nearly 40 LI's in the game so far, which means to get to content end, the MC seduces 39 other woman that are not Mira. Including Mira's mother, sister, and EVERY SINGLE woman Mira has ever met in her life. Every single one.

Which means canonically Mira isn't the MC's special one and only. You don't have to take my word for it, the fact that there isn't dialogue programmed for the MC to lose his virginity to Mira, but there is regarding Isha proves it. If canonically it was important the dialogue would be there. It's just not.

I think that at the end of the day, it would make the MC a dirtbag if there was a bit of "oh, you are so special to me, I love no one but you" since it would ultimately become a lie after the MC seduces every woman Mira has ever met. So it's better to have the MC as poly through and through, it makes him not a liar.

Mira being his special one at any point would later make him a complete liar and adulterer.

But no one here is saying that Mira is the special or canonical character. Every woman in the game can be the player's special character. Chyos is the only one who could say if there's a special woman for the MC. Which I doubt will happen.
It seems clear to me that Mira, like Gwen or Athia, or any of the 40 available women, is indeed special. They are all part of a grand scheme that will lead them to become part of a single harem in the end.
So, in a certain sense, they are all special. That is, of course, if the player decides to include all the various women in the game.

I brought this up because in the game, you can see who the women lost their virginity to, but you don't know who the MC lost it to. You can usually tell he's a virgin because during the intro, Gwen or at least the MC lets you know that he is virgin or was a virgin if you do sex with Gwen.

Considering how Chyos loves to write the plot and how he loves to add little details, it's expected that certain characters will have a certain conversation. Not with all of them, but with some, for sure. How do you know if a character should have a certain detail or not? It seems very simple to me.
Not all women in the game are available until you've been sexually passed on to someone else.
Let's take Verena, for example. To have access to her, unless I'm making a mistake, you must first have sex with Arianna. I don't think you can avoid doing so. To advance Arianna's quest, you must sleep with her. And only when Arianna is finally released from custody can you finally begin Verena's sex journey. Therefore, with Arianna, you can expect the conversation: MC can be a virgin. And therefore lose his virginity to Arianna. But if you want to lose your virginity to Verena, you can't.

This is to make you understand that Chyos has created a path where you can remain chaste until that woman. With that woman, you have to have a conversation where both admit it's their first time. The only exception is if you end up in bed with a mother, of course. In that case, the only virgin would be the MC, if you managed to get there while still being chaste. So as I was saying: Mira belongs to that category of women where you have to expect that conversation. Because you don't have to do sex with Emily or Frisha to have sex with Mira.

Another example is: "Katherin," if someone wants to lose their virginity to Katherin, you can't, because you have to systematically be with Tia. Only after having sex with Tia, and doing it in front of Katherin, will she begin to feel sexually attracted to the MC. So with Katherin, there's no virgin MC. But with Tia, yes. And if you have sex with Tia, you expect the MC to let you know he's still a virgin. Or at least guess that he is still a virgin.

Obviously, with girls, there are two ways to tell. The first is that there's only one animation showing the breaking of the hymen. Therefore, blood loss during intercourse. Unless you disable it in the game options. In that case, just go to the relationships menu and see who lost their virginity to whom. But as I was saying, that's not possible with the MC. There's no record of that kind of information about him. Which is something I'd like to see.

 

[Zero(*^*)]

What's the new mc house scene and katherin scene?

 

[Apartment817]

But no one here is saying that Mira is the special or canonical character. Every woman in the game can be the player's special character. Chyos is the only one who could say if there's a special woman for the MC. Which I doubt will happen.
It seems clear to me that Mira, like Gwen or Athia, or any of the 40 available women, is indeed special. They are all part of a grand scheme that will lead them to become part of a single harem in the end.
So, in a certain sense, they are all special. That is, of course, if the player decides to include all the various women in the game.

I brought this up because in the game, you can see who the women lost their virginity to, but you don't know who the MC lost it to. You can usually tell he's a virgin because during the intro, Gwen or at least the MC lets you know that he is virgin or was a virgin if you do sex with Gwen.

Considering how Chyos loves to write the plot and how he loves to add little details, it's expected that certain characters will have a certain conversation. Not with all of them, but with some, for sure. How do you know if a character should have a certain detail or not? It seems very simple to me.
Not all women in the game are available until you've been sexually passed on to someone else.
Let's take Verena, for example. To have access to her, unless I'm making a mistake, you must first have sex with Arianna. I don't think you can avoid doing so. To advance Arianna's quest, you must sleep with her. And only when Arianna is finally released from custody can you finally begin Verena's sex journey. Therefore, with Arianna, you can expect the conversation: MC can be a virgin. And therefore lose his virginity to Arianna. But if you want to lose your virginity to Verena, you can't.

This is to make you understand that Chyos has created a path where you can remain chaste until that woman. With that woman, you have to have a conversation where both admit it's their first time. The only exception is if you end up in bed with a mother, of course. In that case, the only virgin would be the MC, if you managed to get there while still being chaste. So as I was saying: Mira belongs to that category of women where you have to expect that conversation. Because you don't have to do sex with Emily or Frisha to have sex with Mira.

Another example is: "Katherin," if someone wants to lose their virginity to Katherin, you can't, because you have to systematically be with Tia. Only after having sex with Tia, and doing it in front of Katherin, will she begin to feel sexually attracted to the MC. So with Katherin, there's no virgin MC. But with Tia, yes. And if you have sex with Tia, you expect the MC to let you know he's still a virgin. Or at least guess that he is still a virgin.

Obviously, with girls, there are two ways to tell. The first is that there's only one animation showing the breaking of the hymen. Therefore, blood loss during intercourse. Unless you disable it in the game options. In that case, just go to the relationships menu and see who lost their virginity to whom. But as I was saying, that's not possible with the MC. There's no record of that kind of information about him. Which is something I'd like to see.

You don't trust your memory? I don't think Chyos foresaw a need to document who took the MC's virginity, since if that is an important detail in a playthrough, one should be able to remember this one tiny fact. Either it is important to the player, or it isn't. Wanting a new menu screen, along with the time spent to create it just to document something that should easily be remembered is a waste of time.

It wouldn't make any sense for the MC to have an entry in the Relations tab, so it would have to be a whole new section of the menu somewhere, just to document something that if it was important enough for you to care about, you likely made it a point to target that LI first. Making specific game adjustments to accomplish that goal.

If that is a fact you would like to know about your playthrough, but have memory issues, write it down.

If an LI in the game has children, the MC can't take her virginity. If she has no children, the MC can.

The MC actually can lose his virginity to Verena, get the key from drunk Rick. Wait for a cult night, sneak into Verena's room with high dexterity and lust.

Katherin and the other woman of Rumah are just about the only LI's that the MC can't lose his virginity to. It's just as easy to lose it to Frisha or Emily as it is Mira.

Wanting special dialogue about the MC's virginity for 35 unique situations is also not development time efficient, you would only see one bit of virginity dialogue per playthrough.

But in order for it to exist, that virginity dialogue would have to make since into each of the situations the MC could lose his virginity. Where that conversation is fluid with or without the virginity bit of dialogue being included. What the MC says to himself while losing it to Verena would be much different than if he lost it to Yasmin in her parlor. In Frisha's bedroom different than in Gavina's bedroom.

A whole lot of effort, possibly an entire development cycle, just to document and have a conversation about the MC's virginity isn't a small ask, it's a big one.

 

[fromhell]

what is the ntr in the game?

 

[Apartment817]

what is the ntr in the game?

Scan the walkthrough, a significant amount of the LI's have unique NTR content, too much to list here. Where the LI's have NTR content availability they have a NTR subsection within their section of the walkthrough. There is an NTR switch that can turn off all NTR. If you have the switch on, you still have to seek out the content with willing intention to unlock the NTR, it doesn't just happen, you have to want it to happen.

 

[Volexay]

what is the ntr in the game?

Either losing/failing your love interest or just flat out pushing them to be with other dudes. If you do everything correctly you won't run into any ntr content.

 

[Apartment817]

fromhell Kate, Tia, Bianca and Emily aren't the only LI's with NTR content, but their sections of the walkthrough will show the range that is available. (Emily's step 16 has a bit not included in her NTR specific section).

 

[Apartment817]

Either losing/failing your love interest or just flat out pushing them to be with other dudes. If you do everything correctly you won't run into any ntr content.

I am not one, but for some folks doing stuff "correctly" as you define it means they don't get the NTR content they are after.

NTR in ASWS isn't a punishment to the player, it is a reward for the player by being a punish to the MC. Yes, some folks want that, and few games include it, partly because the games that have it get so heavily attacked by judgmental "fans".

NTR doesn't exist in this game as punishment to players. It doesn't accidentally happen. No battle with NTR as a result is easily lost, you have to choose to enter battles where the MC and companions are mismatched, and even then the feign potions only exist so that the MC can lose battles that he is too strong to actually lose.

But most of the NTR is story based decisions that obviously leads to the LI's looking elsewhere. You don't accidentally call Mira a liar then fuck Syfa in front of her. You don't accidentally tell Julia she has bad pussy.

NTR strictly exists as a reward for the players that want it, who only get it by doing stuff "correctly" towards unlocking the NTR.

 

[Bahamut Zero]

Can someone tell me if this house finally has any interactions? I'll start by saying that in all my playthroughs, I've never finished the entire guide because of some quests that I still don't know what choices to make to complete. Anyway, as I was saying, is this house, dwelling, location, basically unlocked somehow? Or is it still there without knowing what purpose it will serve?

I'm really curious to know what it will be used for...

P.S
What happens if I change the season from spring to winter using rpgmakersaveedit? Will the game crash? I'm asking because I'd like to have the months in the correct seasons. But if touching the season breaks the whole game, I'll obviously give up.

Thanks

 

[Apartment817]

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Can someone tell me if this house finally has any interactions? I'll start by saying that in all my playthroughs, I've never finished the entire guide because of some quests that I still don't know what choices to make to complete. Anyway, as I was saying, is this house, dwelling, location, basically unlocked somehow? Or is it still there without knowing what purpose it will serve?

I'm really curious to know what it will be used for...

P.S
What happens if I change the season from spring to winter using rpgmakersaveedit? Will the game crash? I'm asking because I'd like to have the months in the correct seasons. But if touching the season breaks the whole game, I'll obviously give up.

Thanks

Chekov's gun.

In case folks aren't familiar, Anton Chekov was a Russian playwright who said if you are going to hang a rifle above the mantle front and center, you had better use it by the end of the play.

I am sure Chyos is familiar with the concept.

I just walked by this Queen Anne style house, and am more baffled then ever by why Chyos put it here. I know it has a reason, but damned if I have any idea of what.

Just southeast of Penny's barn.

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You have talked about this walkthrough for years, you still using 4 year old updates while writing it? I have my doubts you will ever take that gun off the mantle.

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In real life, there is not a person whose cum corrupts anyone that ingests it. There aren't orcs, goblins and elves. The game is in a fantasy realm, not on earth as we know it.

Chyos didn't accidentally make January Spring. It was a conscious decision to make Spring the correct season for January in this world.

Most likely the choice was made because when you start the game, you are broke, tired, hungry in debt. It probably felt a little bit of overkill to also have it be Winter. Better to start out being down and out, but it's Spring with hope of a new start to come.

You might be fine adjusting that switch in the data, you might completely break your save months from now when the seasons incorrectly change. Personally I stay away from all switches in ASWS, they are interconnected to things you can't control or see.

Even with the variables you need to be careful with. Try changing the time of day (there are two entries, variables 9 and 10), this is the only way I have ever broken NPC schedules. Change the time, then watch the NPC schedules break.

So if you don't want to break your save, don't adjust it, but you could be fine if you do, who knows?

 

[ChuckUFarley]

how do you make the captain of the guard free use? and can you do the same with tia, bianca and imawyn?

 

[Bahamut Zero]

You have talked about this walkthrough for years, you still using 4 year old updates while writing it? I have my doubts you will ever take that gun off the mantle.

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In real life, there is not a person whose cum corrupts anyone that ingests it. There aren't orcs, goblins and elves. The game is in a fantasy realm, not on earth as we know it.

Chyos didn't accidentally make January Spring. It was a conscious decision to make Spring the correct season for January in this world.

Most likely the choice was made because when you start the game, you are broke, tired, hungry in debt. It probably felt a little bit of overkill to also have it be Winter. Better to start out being down and out, but it's Spring with hope of a new start to come.

You might be fine adjusting that switch in the data, you might completely break your save months from now when the seasons incorrectly change. Personally I stay away from all switches in ASWS, they are interconnected to things you can't control or see.

Even with the variables you need to be careful with. Try changing the time of day (there are two entries, variables 9 and 10), this is the only way I have ever broken NPC schedules. Change the time, then watch the NPC schedules break.

So if you don't want to break your save, don't adjust it, but you could be fine if you do, who knows?

If you're telling me this could happen, thanks for the info. I won't touch any variables or switches. The last thing I want is to mess up the game. And since it's such a long game, I don't want to risk throwing away a good save.

Thanks for the info.

 

[Apartment817]

how do you make the captain of the guard free use? and can you do the same with tia, bianca and imawyn?

You have to complete Lyvia's step 51 to unlock it. See here step 55 and 60 after you have completed step 51.

NTR for each of the other three are completely different, but they all have it, with completely different instructions, see their sections of the walkthrough for that information.

 

[Volexay]

I am not one, but for some folks doing stuff "correctly" as you define it means they don't get the NTR content they are after.

NTR in ASWS isn't a punishment to the player, it is a reward for the player by being a punish to the MC. Yes, some folks want that, and few games include it, partly because the games that have it get so heavily attacked by judgmental "fans".

NTR doesn't exist in this game as punishment to players. It doesn't accidentally happen. No battle with NTR as a result is easily lost, you have to choose to enter battles where the MC and companions are mismatched, and even then the feign potions only exist so that the MC can lose battles that he is too strong to actually lose.

But most of the NTR is story based decisions that obviously leads to the LI's looking elsewhere. You don't accidentally call Mira a liar then fuck Syfa in front of her. You don't accidentally tell Julia she has bad pussy.

NTR strictly exists as a reward for the players that want it, who only get it by doing stuff "correctly" towards unlocking the NTR.

For apparently being "Not One" you sure defend NTR a lot LMAO. Listen for most normal people losing or failing is bad in games, and losing the love interest is also bad in romance/dating games. So the "correct" path is the one where things work out for the better. And even the dev agrees hence why he implemented a feature that flat out disables the ntr paths.

 

[Apartment817]

For apparently being "Not One" you sure defend NTR a lot LMAO. Listen for most normal people losing or failing is bad in games, and losing the love interest is also bad in romance/dating games. So the "correct" path is the one where things work out for the better. And even the dev agrees hence why he implemented a feature that flat out disables the ntr paths.

Yes, I also am a cis white man, I don't have to be a minority to be against racial stereotypes either.

You are on a judgmental high horse alluding to me having some sort of shameful like for NTR. "Normal" and "correct", your bigotry is neither. You are acting like liking NTR is something that is dirty and should be hidden. It's not.

Check my history, I deal with one of you puritan fucks every couple of weeks. I would not challenge you head on every time if I was trying to hid some kink. I purposefully draw attention to myself every time one of you puritan judgmental fucks raises your pea brain outside your tiny hole because of the harm your judgment causes.

Liking NTR in games is healthily roleplay for some. You being an asshole by judging folks for healthy interests is what is unhealthy. Since you make a point of judging folks, being a bully trying to cause shame, I make a point of calling you out. I just don't happen to like the NTR personally so I feel I should be honest about that.

The developer takes a lot of flack for spending time on NTR and has for years but does it any way because he wants a game for folks that like NTR. If he agreed with you, he wouldn't have it in the game in the first place.

Further NTR in ASWS would exist in ASWS as punishment to the the player, but that in fact is not what exists AT ALL.

None of it comes by accidental bad gameplay. None of the truly difficult battles have NTR at the end of them. The hard battles have death "game over" reload your save and try again. The battles that have NTR as a consequence are harder to lose then they are to win. (Single Orc while Tia is chopping wood, you win that battle day one. Group of Orcs that kidnapped Katherin, by that point you have been battling groups of Orcs for weeks, if not months by then, and you have Tia in the party). You have to set out to lose.

But even if you count Orc, Goblins and Bandits NTR scenes as "punishment to the player for playing bad" those are just a tiny fraction of the scenes NTR scenes available.

Almost all of Kate's NTR comes from the MC purposefully trying to pimp her out. You don't accidentally tell Kate that she has to wear the red dress, because there is a giant warning on the screen before you do, but that is only step 1. She can wear the red dress and you have no NTR. You then have to tell her to go to their room. Step 2. Still not enough. You then have to Step 3. go watch her give them head in order for the NTR to happen.

THAT IS NOT A PUNISHMENT FOR BAD PLAYING, it's reward for putting in the inputs you want to see the NTR.

The scenes with Thomas, Rick and Grant with Kate include a similar bit of careful steps in order to activate.

Saving Mira from the church basement is designed to have you battle, then fuck Syfa a dozen times before you finally get to Mira and Aidalin. Fucking Syfa a whole bunch before you get to Mira doesn't get you NTR. Telling Mira she is a liar, then fucking Syfa in front of her for the 13th time is how you get Mira NTR. That isn't an "oops, fuck I should have played better" it's a deliberate choice.

This game does not give NTR as a punishment to the player. It gives it to the player as a reward to players that have a taste for NTR punishment to the main character.

The NTR switch exists to partially mitigate crying bitch babies like yourself from complaining that the NTR exists in the first place. It only partially works because you whining puritans still pop up here to cry every week or so.

I see your judgment as harmful, I will continue to call folks out for it. Even if my saves don't have NTR scenes unlocked.

 

[WingzChan]

For saddle , need lvl 30 for sewing and need to delete the wulff cheatbook (not in game, but in the data). ps sorry for the bad english

 

[DestroyerX16]

how to get yasmine and liandra sex scene anyone can help me