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Well, to be fair i always thought GeeSeki was a fairly decent dev considering all the unfinished and literally years of no update devs who are literally stalling Patreons for cash without a plan to ever deliver at all.
GeeSeki had a nice progress to next update split up in art, dev, writing and such which was updated etc. They also actually replied and commented about things when asked. Not sure how that is lately however.
The real issue came later, when it became a way bigger game than intended (or rather they underestimated the work/size of the thing in the first place) and they started to sell out. I'm not sure they themselves even know the direction the game is heading in anymore.
Allowing Patreons to vote/ask for things to implement in the game, taking on those requests on top of the normal development just means it's way too much work for someone who clearly doesn't have the required skills for something this size by themselves. (They introduced a lot of 'extra' characters; do they all require stories/scenes? it's taking months/years for one character already lol)
Also, for example the whole Mom & Sis blowjob scene on the couch has been in the game since LONG before it was actually properly accessible through the 'story' because it was requested so much. But writing that in with some weird roundabout way to show it off anyway is kind of a liability, having to rewrite it all later again and such.
Pretty sure the dev(s?) also did not write code with the long term in mind at the start wich might be due to inexperience or perhaps lazyness as you said.
Looking at some other comments the person normally doing the code went AWOL (Corona/situation?) so they're probably just taking jabs at it trying to make it work. (rather unsuccessfully i might add)
If the regular code guy wasn't the greatest dev then god knows how his code looks like and how/if people could even make heads or tails out of it at this point.
I'm also doubting most of the developers creating games (on here anyway) are using proper planning tools with goals and bugtickets or have development cycles beyond 'i want this finished by next month somewhere'
So yeah
- Currently unplayable (without abusing the cheat function to skip ahead in story workaround); => Sure they're not the greatest devs.
- Story going all over the place buggy; => Yeah, they definitely lost their direction (maybe not sure where to go with story idk man)
- Sell out milking; (with the whole steam release thing?; ) => Definitely at least a little bit, but compared to other actual milkers, not really, they are still posting and updating and keeping people in the loop on things. In case you haven't been around for long; some others literally just go dead silence for months to then come up with an excuse for a 'delay' and then go dead silent for another few months. Some just ransom people for money or they won't release, like really? :/ There is a LOT of way worse devs out there than this guy, but yeah definitely been issues lately and it's okay to voice concerns so they are heard.
So in conclusion: They're probably not the greatest developers and all, but at least they're trying to make it work so that makes them alright in my book. I can't deny the fact that they need someone to do proper code for them however.
Also, they're providing us with free content and it's been fairly decent quality, just sucks lately since all these bugs and things are popping up because they are trying to rush things (with steam release and irl situations etc. most likely)
P.S. If you didn't like the content you wouldn't be so mad about it either
P.P.S Sorry for the wall of text.
GeeSeki had a nice progress to next update split up in art, dev, writing and such which was updated etc. They also actually replied and commented about things when asked. Not sure how that is lately however.
The real issue came later, when it became a way bigger game than intended (or rather they underestimated the work/size of the thing in the first place) and they started to sell out. I'm not sure they themselves even know the direction the game is heading in anymore.
Allowing Patreons to vote/ask for things to implement in the game, taking on those requests on top of the normal development just means it's way too much work for someone who clearly doesn't have the required skills for something this size by themselves. (They introduced a lot of 'extra' characters; do they all require stories/scenes? it's taking months/years for one character already lol)
Also, for example the whole Mom & Sis blowjob scene on the couch has been in the game since LONG before it was actually properly accessible through the 'story' because it was requested so much. But writing that in with some weird roundabout way to show it off anyway is kind of a liability, having to rewrite it all later again and such.
Pretty sure the dev(s?) also did not write code with the long term in mind at the start wich might be due to inexperience or perhaps lazyness as you said.
Looking at some other comments the person normally doing the code went AWOL (Corona/situation?) so they're probably just taking jabs at it trying to make it work. (rather unsuccessfully i might add)
If the regular code guy wasn't the greatest dev then god knows how his code looks like and how/if people could even make heads or tails out of it at this point.
I'm also doubting most of the developers creating games (on here anyway) are using proper planning tools with goals and bugtickets or have development cycles beyond 'i want this finished by next month somewhere'
So yeah
- Currently unplayable (without abusing the cheat function to skip ahead in story workaround); => Sure they're not the greatest devs.
- Story going all over the place buggy; => Yeah, they definitely lost their direction (maybe not sure where to go with story idk man)
- Sell out milking; (with the whole steam release thing?; ) => Definitely at least a little bit, but compared to other actual milkers, not really, they are still posting and updating and keeping people in the loop on things. In case you haven't been around for long; some others literally just go dead silence for months to then come up with an excuse for a 'delay' and then go dead silent for another few months. Some just ransom people for money or they won't release, like really? :/ There is a LOT of way worse devs out there than this guy, but yeah definitely been issues lately and it's okay to voice concerns so they are heard.
So in conclusion: They're probably not the greatest developers and all, but at least they're trying to make it work so that makes them alright in my book. I can't deny the fact that they need someone to do proper code for them however.
Also, they're providing us with free content and it's been fairly decent quality, just sucks lately since all these bugs and things are popping up because they are trying to rush things (with steam release and irl situations etc. most likely)
P.S. If you didn't like the content you wouldn't be so mad about it either
P.P.S Sorry for the wall of text.
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Can someone tell me what the mom & sis threesome route is like? I kept getting stuck and feel like I missed almost half of it.
Edit: I just saw a lot of people mentioning the bugs. Not trying to beat a dead horse or anything just hoping to get caught up on what I missed bc I like these two characters.
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If you do the basic due diligence and check you will find that a developers take home after Patron and tax's is not what you see on the web page. Plus this developer has 2 people he has to pay. So his real take home is quite small and it would not surprise me if they have a part-time job to help make ends meet.
Every new version there is a bug. And it's not like there is so much progress that it is difficult to test, really...
Are you saying it takes 3 people to achieve THIS?
Check the guide in my signature for more details. It was made for 30c, though, so it might not work that well.
Scene 1: Living Room
Scene 2: Master Bedroom
Scene 3: Bathroom (+a couple of automatically triggered ones afterwards)
Scene 4: Breakfast table
Scene 5: Returning from the basement.
Then there’s another one in the master bedroom and another scene that triggers when you wake up in the morning.
There’s also something keeping you from triggering one scene right after another. I think they require you to go to sleep or wait a week or something. I’m unsure on the details and it’s buggy enough that I wouldn’t trust it to trigger at the intended time either way.
Technically, there’s one big buggy mess that Geeseki keeps trying to fix and makes worse instead.
1) Geeseki had the original idea and now does the art.
2) Writer does not take part in any other part of development.
3) Coder has been absent for over two months.
Geeseki used to do everything alone at some point but readily admitted to being in over his head. I assume the recent mess happened because Geeseki cannot figure out what is messing up the MomxSis route.
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None fully implemented, three disconnected from everything else and one you witness together with her that still lacks art. Her family manor will appear in v0.32.
Starting to implement the long completed art for the Lashley scenes was the last thing the programmer did, back in October. It is likely that further development of her route will wait until he returns or a replacement is found.
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Do I...
Do I have to come back?
Seriously, they still can't figure out what they're doing?
Do I have to come back?
Seriously, they still can't figure out what they're doing?
Honestly, at this point, you should be paid and credited as an actual developer.
I am not saying the games development is a 5 out of 5. Just saying they are not getting that much take home money each month so they are not "milking it to live large" that some people are making it out to be.
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Okay, so at this point I think it's best if I hold off on this until the final product is released. So, I'll see yall in about 10 years
She still has her own goddamn SIDE story mission, despite never having had more than a single scene! None of the newer characters even have those (and almost certainly never will), much less any of the other original side characters (Alanna, etc.).
Since I’m convinced their in-house coder/programmer has run away… you might even get an actual position with (gasp!) actual money. And given how rarely the other members of the dev team work, you might become the most productive member even if you only work one full work-day per week…
There’s three things I’m looking forward to:
1) Finally fixing the MomxSis route.
2) Implementing all the art for that route. (Most of it has been complete for months.)
3) Advancing the Lashley route (and adding in the actual art, much of which is also already complete).
4) Any new sex world stuff.
Once they manage any two of these I’d say it’s worth picking the game up again.
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So I like this game and I may have hit a huge bug according to my quest guide. For the main quest I have to ask around town. I have the Mom&Jane living room on Friday for side that trigger but nothing after go to bed works and I'm stuck in the house. idk if I'm at the end of content or not and I can't progress