VN Ren'Py Abandoned A Whole New World [v0.11] [Remionar]

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A Whole New World is an experimental visual novel which features a blend of A.I Generated character faces, real porn, and stylizing in an effort to create a more immersive gameplay experience. Inspired by the likes of 'Good Girl Gone Bad' and the corruption genre, it follows the story of foreign exchange student Priya Srinivasan on her journey of self-discovery. The Bitchiness and Kinkiness meters determine her general attitude based on the player's choices, either advancing to a new level or remaining unchanged at the end of each chapter and influencing the events of the next. Alongside these, Priya's relationship with each character is also tracked.​

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Release Date: 2022-01-06
Developer: Remionar F95Zone
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I should mention that the visuals are definitely 'experimental', and there's a reason why most ( None? ) VN's don't dabble in it, both because its uncharted territory and more difficult to seamlessly merge realistic body parts, you need to fine tune coloration, position, brush healing, etc to a very precise degree to make the sprite even mostly coherent.

I don't know if its the head size, if you compare it to Daz3D heads, it about the same proportions or even smaller. And proportions were modeled around native head sizes of the body cutouts. I suspect, and I mean its practically guaranteed, that it will feel off due to imperfect lighting and and things like neck curvatures being slightly off to the extent that couldn't be fixed with rotation and small touches.

But obviously its never going to feel like a completely real human pictured with a camera, even studio deefakes require hours of extra work per one photo to polish it to perfection when plastering faces on bodies. So there will always be a compromise.

So just as with 3dcg characters having uncanny valley factor ( A pretty big one in my opinion ), this is something which takes a bit of getting used to. That's why I released the demo first though, I'm interested ro know if its still acceptable for folks, or if it's either 2D art, 3dcg, real porn, or nothing for most people. If not, then I'll definitely attempt a couple of repositioning and shadowing polishes in the future, but sadly I'm sure it will always have a sprite feel and not look like a picture-perfect photo, if that's the expectation.
 
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Overview:
A whole New World is a unique experimental visual novel which blends A.I Generated faces ( Yes, really! Look up StyleGAN ) with real porn, photo editing and cutout sprites in an effort to create realistic, yet immersive characters. Inspired by the likes of 'Good Girl Gone Bad' and the corruption genre, A Whole New World attempts to spice up the usual formula with some added character diversity and an emphasis on consensual BDSM dynamics, ranging from 'brat' behavior to future plans for scenes involving spanking ,shibari, humiliation fetish, daddy/little dynamics, and so on. The story follows the experiences of Indian foreign exchange student Priya Srinivasan, with the player molding and influencing her personality each chapter via the 'Bitchiness' and 'Kinkiness' meters, alongside relationship scores with different characters.​

Thread Updated: 2022-01-06
Release Date: 2022-01-06
Developer: Remionar F95Zone
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Version: 0.1
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Dude I love how you made the main character a desi girl. If you change your mind about donations/patreon I'd definitely find the heck out of this. Are you planning on adding pregnancy btw?
 
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I think another issue is that the AI faces always face straight ahead while they should sometimes be turned slightly. AI-generated faces is a great idea but it needs people who can actually work with AI to do the work at a low level rather than just paste in existing faces.
 

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Just started the game and found one issue, not counting the large heads, the text in phone messages is too small. double the font size. My vision is not that great. :)
 

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Dude I love how you made the main character a desi girl. If you change your mind about donations/patreon I'd definitely find the heck out of this. Are you planning on adding pregnancy btw?
Thanks a lot, one of my main imperatives was to make an MC which is different than your stereotypical MV's, which tend to be white redheads ( Which are very hot, but used for way too many games of this type already ), blonde bimbos or 'Japanese waifu'. I'm not sure that visible pregnancy will be a thing, a bit heavy and ofg-kilter for a kinky college seting, but maybe unwanted pregnancies?

I don't do it professionally, its more of a 'fan' take, so I wouldn't want to create too much pressure by monetizing it. For starters at least, I'm just doing the best I can with this new formula and seeing how its received. Apparently not so well too far from those who are used to either 2D or Daz3D, but we'll see.

I think another issue is that the AI faces always face straight ahead while they should sometimes be turned slightly. AI-generated faces is a great idea but it needs people who can actually work with AI to do the work at a low level rather than just paste in existing faces.

That's true, for every slight position change you need to try and 'trick the eyes' with a combo of rotation and shaving off, shadowing, re-knitting certain sections, etc. A *completely* photorealistic VN with fictional characters is not a thing for a reason, it would be quite time consuming and require pro photo editors who can handpaint human anatomy over certain areas

But as everyone says, 'something is off' but unclear what, because I adjusted it in photoshop with things like color curves, positions and cloning to be about smooth I could for a head attached to a completey different body. It will, however, *always* be a bit off because its a deepfake essentially.

The thing is, 90% of 3dcg also looks *very* off, especially when making certain expressions, those 'dolls' are obviously not human. So I figured it might be tolerable in this instance too, but perhaps its realistic enough that it irks some player's brain when it isn't flawless.

That's part of the demo's purpose, to figure out whether players are fine with the compromise in exchange for lifelike sprites, or if it's just destined to be only 2d and 3dcg until someone perfects the technology. Also, the side portraits near tthe text boxes are meant to somewhat mitigate the effect by encouraging the player to focus on those higher clarity heads with different expressions in their oroginal position, and pay attention to the body and clothes when those changes take place.
 
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Remionar To elaborate a little further, I find it odd that the MC girl stands with her elbow poking towards the gamer's eye. If you would use some more images, linking posture a bit more to the text, I could rate this 9/10. So it is mostly good or even great. I hope this is a good thing for you to pick up and I hope to see this game growing to a v1.## update ##, possibly sequals, prequals and games based on this one.
 

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Played through it and I like the premise so far, looking forward to see how it develops from here. It's cool to see an Indian MC for once, would be nice if the game contained an Indian guy as well.

But the images... I understand what you're trying to go for but I don't it's gonna work yet. The heads feel too big for the bodies and they look really out of place, especially with the background images that make the characters look way too big compared to the background. The part where you peek on Ji looks really bad with how much you had to resize the characters just to make them fit the doorframe.

Overall, this could probably be a good game if you decide to go with a different art style.
 

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Just started the game and found one issue, not counting the large heads, the text in phone messages is too small. double the font size. My vision is not that great. :)
The size can certainly be easily tweaked to be somewhat larger in the future. Right now its realistic texting size if you play in 1920 by 1080 fullscreen, should be pretty visible, but I'll increase it further for added visibility!

Remionar To elaborate a little further, I find it odd that the MC girl stands with her elbow poking towards the gamer's eye. If you would use some more images, linking posture a bit more to the text, I could rate this 9/10. So it is mostly good or even great. I hope this is a good thing for you to pick up and I hope to see this game growing to a v1.## update ##, possibly sequals, prequals and games based on this one.
One of the problems is that models, who for the sake of actually looking like college girls or real people, aren't taken from some pro porn studio ( It always jarred me how in realmporn games you're supposed to imagine some washed-up porn actress with 50 layers of makeup and plastic surgery everywhere as the girl next door ) but from amateur shared albums, and so have limited postures. So to make her hang the arm, I'll actually need to find an arm and try approximating every pixel from the shoulder to the fingertips. Franksteining body parts is messy work, so hopefully it doesn't create problems by being again, 'off' for some.

I thought the position was kind of playful as if playing with her hair and touching her lips, so as a sprite illustration that's meant to convey her presence, I decided to keep it. Of course, she does have quite a few positions for ( future ) sex scenes, but less 'casual' ones. I'll add it to my list for the next update though ( if there's some demand for it ) , so thanks for the feedback

Played through it and I like the premise so far, looking forward to see how it develops from here. It's cool to see an Indian MC for once, would be nice if the game contained an Indian guy as well.

But the images... I understand what you're trying to go for but I don't it's gonna work yet. The heads feel too big for the bodies and they look really out of place, especially with the background images that make the characters look way too big compared to the background. The part where you peek on Ji looks really bad with how much you had to resize the characters just to make them fit the doorframe.

Overall, this could probably be a good game if you decide to go with a different art style.
An Indian guy was deefinitely planned for the actual chapters. After some time Priya is meant to be joined by someone who knows her from her old college and applied at the same program because of her, which..complicates things in various ways depending on her personality.

For the doorframe, the funny part is that I didn't do it for the doorframe. The doorframe is actually a trick to mask the fact that, given nothing in those scenes is actual porn ( Tyler's model and Ji's were never doing any porn, its photoshopped. ), a lot of their body parts are missing in the original photos due to how those were cropped, or they're holding a camera, or the original photo doesn't even have a face, etc. So Priya's vision is constrained to the doorframe to mask that.

A different artstyle is, sadly, not an option since I'm not an artist nor can payroll one ( non-commercial solo project ), and 3dcg also needs a lot of monetary investment for assets and environments to actually be varied and diverse, which I can't do ( and also think there's enough 3dcg out there ). If someone wanted to assist by drawing tons of 2d art for free, then maybe? But otherwise, its a problem.
 
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Do you already know when you'll have Android?
I'll have to see if the project is worth resuming first, but if so then I imagine an android port could be included in the next update. In the meantime though, you could download the 'Joiplay' app and 'Ren'py plugin for Joiplay', which is what I do to play renpy pc games on my android. Can't guarantee the UI and images will work properly though.
 

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One of the problems is that models, who for the sake of actually looking like college girls or real people aren't taken from some pro porn studio ( It always jarred me how in realmporn games you're supposed to imagine some washed-up porn actress with 50 layers of makeup and plastic surgery everywhere as the girl next door ) but frkm amateur shated albums, and so habe limited postures. So to make her hang the arm, I'll actually need to find an arm and try approximating every pixel from the shoulder to the fingertips. Franksteining body parts is messy work, so hopefully it doesn't create problems by being again, 'off' for some.
Using amateur looks works fine for me. It's actually refreshing. Maybe you can base your MC on a figure/skin color/face that you can mix & mash the easiest. I might be making HTML real porn games if it wasn't for the legal dilemma concerning copyrighted media. I really appreciate your workaround and hope to see it evolve it to workable levels. Good luck mate.
 
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