for me it is one of the best. I like the idea of the mother working in the hospital and the number of routes available. the update has been a bit short but...we'll see
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DiabolosFluegelmann
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Except nobody is ripped off. Have you ever considered the people who are giving this dev money actually like what he does and thats why they give him cash? But no, because you are frustrated, you think everybody else is too. Kinda egocentric.
As for this "ripping-off": in the world of the grown-ups, people take responsability for what they spend their income on themselfs. Patreon is one way - but you don't become an investor all of the sudden. You just support a product you like and if you get the impression the product isn't for you or not anymore you stop supporting. It's really just that easy.
Radoslaw Wolf
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Amen.
Plus this game seems to be one of very few that might be anywhere next to reality, with casual events and natural human beings with their hesitations, dilemmas and hidden temptations. Everyone has their favorite flavors, some like games copying porn, and some reflecting reality...
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You're writing really much here and I respect your opinion. But one thing I'd really like to clarify: the milking and once again the "why does these updates take so long and why others are bringing them out faster" thing.
I already explained it here but it seems you didn't notice.
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lockhear
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Just a quick question for you @Lust&Passion. Do you want people to admire "aesthetic impressions" or "erotic fap drive" of those scenes, created by you? Those two things rarely can go together hand in hand, because as everyone know, blood can be present in our brains or our dicks, not both :HeyGuys:.
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On my patreon page is written "I’m trying to fuse art and eroticism". My game is still at a very early stage and you have to look back on it when it's completed (if ever)! When there already are a lot of erotic and porn scenes, developed gradually and in a realistic way. Then all this quality will unfold all its impact! And I'm already trying to reduce a lot of things. Next update will be the whole playable day 6 in maybe max. 100 renders!
Many are complaining about that and I've already reduced it. But they are a very important artistic element for the transition from one scene to a completely another one, when especially also the sound has to be changed.the black screen interval timing is very highplease reduce it
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i’m still befuddled by the complaints of milking. he’s very clearly roadmapped where he wants to go with the story with some minor modifications. the fact he’s taken the time to explain himself respectfully here to people who may not even patron him is something he doesn’t really have to do but he’s doing it and i respect that.
it’s been mentioned here that promising games and devs destroyed their games in the end by caving too early and often to loud complaints.
since there will be more progression to the story in v0.5 or v0.6 i’m looking forward to that and finally applying all the filthy points i’ve accumulated to see how slutty Sophia will get and am excited to find out how much more she can go to corrupt herself.
it’s been mentioned here that promising games and devs destroyed their games in the end by caving too early and often to loud complaints.
since there will be more progression to the story in v0.5 or v0.6 i’m looking forward to that and finally applying all the filthy points i’ve accumulated to see how slutty Sophia will get and am excited to find out how much more she can go to corrupt herself.
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tell the story, you like and tell it, how you prefer
you aren't paid by anybody here to make anything different
Just wanted to pop by and say yer doing a fantastic job man. I liked the buildup so far, dont get me wrong though , i wished there was a deeper level of teases in this update. I'm hoping for that in the next one. Would personally love some animations too.
One thing you said that Day 7 is where things will start getting up, but you also mentioned that Sam's storyline has also begun, so will he be able to get frisky with the Sophia earlier since his relationship with Sophia started earlier than Dylan or Ellie's?
One thing you said that Day 7 is where things will start getting up, but you also mentioned that Sam's storyline has also begun, so will he be able to get frisky with the Sophia earlier since his relationship with Sophia started earlier than Dylan or Ellie's?
I dunno.
I think this one is just as far of from reality as the "copying porn"ones. just on the other side of the spectrum. Small example, how many woman have a problem their son fixing a dress on the back, in this case a label or something still in there and do cringy about it like it's a sexual act. How distant are you from your children if you have to do a morality check with every touch, look, sentence etc. I bet these kids if was reality never get a hug or goodnight kiss without mom feeling violated and be a nutcase about it. probably there are people like this in reality. just as there are people sleeping with family members
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Sam is a very important character in different ways later. He has also a gradual approach to Sophia but in a different way than Dylan. The same goes for Ellie.
I've always informed my patrons about what I'm doing yet and the current stat. If I'd really abandon this project one day I'd definitely inform everyone. But this isn't sure now because I just want myself to finish it so bad because otherwise all the events I wrote for over a year would be in vain!
You have to read my statement on my patreon site! There I've wrote that some elements are deliberately lifted to make the change more evident later!
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It's the monthly payment thing. People feel entitled to get an update containing something they want every month. They paid for it, right? Even people here who pay nothing act like that. I wish people saw patreon for what it's supposed to be. A means to support / donate the developer to realize his project. I mean why would you go and buy every small update every month for a visual novel? That's a really bad deal, isn't it?
Angmir
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Since You are here L&P
You say you have game written down with every event over 30 days.
Can you at least tell us at what point we can expect any real Sexual scenes inside the game ?
We can get any HJ/BJ from non-husband character arround day 10 ?
Seeing first dick-in-vagina sex arround 15 or later still ?
I guess If I had any complaint to this version of the game and day 5 it was that it didnt move any relationship forwards realy. (Well Ellie and Julia maybe).
I was kind of hoping for something like at least kiss from Sam at this point.
Nevertheless - game is realy well done, and is keeping us intrested, wondering how will the story unfold rather than simply gattering points and getting checkpoint sex scenes.
It's a bit sad that the lesbian romantic interests only being mentioned as little storylines, to me the scenes with the maid were the best so far. Ah well, I think the game is well done...I just can't bring myself to care about the "spotlight/main" characters (the son and his friend).
If say whatever you want, you'll hear what you don't want it.
As you've the freedom to spress yourself, your feeling, your emotions towards a specific endeavour, so others have to reply, agree or disagree. Do not ever think you're the only person with the last word or think you hold the 'correct' answer, specially when the subject is labelled as from personal interpretation/option based and not as cientific proof.
If you truly believe you can speak whatever you want and demand others to 'ignore' your post if disagreed, then I'll use the same mentality logic to say "don't post anything at all," until you've matured your young mind.
I was just giving my thoughts on Radoslaw wolfs opinion this game touching reality more than most games. I had a small suspicion why it's written like this even without reading your post on patreon and it is in no way meant to bash the game. I actually enjoy it a lot
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If you only take one thing away from this thread, L&P, let it be this.
Of course it's good to look at criticism, but be careful evaluating it. Imo you already listen *too* much and take some things too personal. Do your thing.
It got you to 3k / month and atm you seem to see a small upwards trend in your monthly donations. You're obviously doing something right.