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VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

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yihman1 said:
The game is not so complicated that you should need one, at least not yet. One tip however would be that when you pass the 2 men act annoyed to trigger the rape attempt later, act calm to not.
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This means that this is not so linear. Which decisions and decisions can significantly affect future events. I already wrote about Dylan's reaction to the courtship of Sam Sophia, how to react? how will this be reflected in the future? It is clear that the game has just begun, and it's too early to talk about complete passage. But I would like to know the characters' prospects, their interaction. Who and with whom can begin the novel, whether it is a branch of Dylan with his aunt or Sam's mother.
 
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This means that this is not so linear. Which decisions and decisions can significantly affect future events. I already wrote about Dylan's reaction to the courtship of Sam Sophia, how to react? how will this be reflected in the future? It is clear that the game has just begun, and it's too early to talk about complete passage. But I would like to know the characters' prospects, their interaction. Who and with whom can begin the novel, whether it is a branch of Dylan with his aunt or Sam's mother.
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The Sam/Dylan interaction should be the prelude to whether Dylan gets to try to nail Sam's mom. It makes sense, as Dylan likely wouldn't want to call atention to his own mom issues, and would trade Sam having a shot with Sophia if he gets to plow Sam's mom. At least, that is one route that squeezes in the most sex. Dylan cockblocking Sam would be another route, but would likely engender a return favor from Sam keeping Dylan from his mom. That route says "no action here, keep moving." If both options are available, then this game would rock.

Regardless, I just want Sophia to have sex with every female character in the story. Especially Soccer Mom. Damn.
 
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rossbach451 said:
The Sam/Dylan interaction should be the prelude to whether Dylan gets to try to nail Sam's mom. It makes sense, as Dylan likely wouldn't want to call atention to his own mom issues, and would trade Sam having a shot with Sophia if he gets to plow Sam's mom. At least, that is one route that squeezes in the most sex. Dylan cockblocking Sam would be another route, but would likely engender a return favor from Sam keeping Dylan from his mom. That route says "no action here, keep moving." If both options are available, then this game would rock.
Regardless, I just want Sophia to have sex with every female character in the story. Especially Soccer Mom. Damn.
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I agree with you. I'm also interested in Sofia's relationship with female characters, especially with her daughter and sister. It would also be interesting to look at the relationship in love quartets and triangles - Sofia, Dylan, daughter, sister, aunt.
 
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One of the few games where relationships ain't forced. Sam's route is amazing so far and it feels especially realistic with Dylan's reactions. I have 0 points with Dylan and thankfully it seems like incest is not in a focus and not picking it doesn't make game less consistent. Except maybe for a sister (to a certain degree) it makes no sense at all and without it relationship with Sam is just superb. I'd love to see some scenes with daughter and some guys but I guess it's a long road for that.
 
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Ignazzio said:
One of the few games where relationships ain't forced. Sam's route is amazing so far and it feels especially realistic with Dylan's reactions. I have 0 points with Dylan and thankfully it seems like incest is not in a focus and not picking it doesn't make game less consistent. Except maybe for a sister (to a certain degree) it makes no sense at all and without it relationship with Sam is just superb. I'd love to see some scenes with daughter and some guys but I guess it's a long road for that.
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Sam is a by-product, like a teacher and others. First of all, it's a game of incest, there's no Sam on the poster or any other characters, there's a mother, a father and children. The plot lines of Dylan and his sister have not yet begun.
 
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robin1986 said:
Sam is a by-product, like a teacher and others. First of all, it's a game of incest, there's no Sam on the poster or any other characters, there's a mother, a father and children. The plot lines of Dylan and his sister have not yet begun.
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It's quite disturbing if you think that a picture of family implies incest. Family is a natural enviroment for a wife and that's it. It has incest routes but they're not in a focus just as any other. Text is altered if you don't pick it and so far Sam has more content than any other character. Not to say that it has much more characters outside of family. Female protag games are very rarely focused on incest as they're about corruption
 
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Ignazzio said:
It's quite disturbing if you think that a picture of family implies incest. Family is a natural enviroment for a wife and that's it. It has incest routes but they're not in a focus just as any other. Text is altered if you don't pick it and so far Sam has more content than any other character. Not to say that it has much more characters outside of family. Female protag games are very rarely focused on incest as they're about corruption
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Here I categorically disagree with you. Firstly, it is a question of porn playing and reasoning about family values and morals is of no importance here. A good half of all porn games about incest and this is the most famous game of the same Big Brother. In them, the same can be associated not only with family members, but from this they do not cease to be an incest-game.
Secondly, your judgments about the predominance of Sam's content are incorrect. Here the text of the author of the game was already quoted, where he clearly wrote that the line of Sam has already begun, and the line of Dylan and his sister from the 7th day. Points of sympathy for Sam 24 by 16 in Dylan, if all is worked out. I've uploaded Sam to get points from Sophia's bad wife, without them you can not deal with Sophia, for example masturbation after watching TV. Thus, Sam's points are only one-third larger, although his line has begun, and Dylan did not even begin.
 
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robin1986 said:
Here I categorically disagree with you. Firstly, it is a question of porn playing and reasoning about family values and morals is of no importance here. A good half of all porn games about incest and this is the most famous game of the same Big Brother. In them, the same can be associated not only with family members, but from this they do not cease to be an incest-game.
Secondly, your judgments about the predominance of Sam's content are incorrect. Here the text of the author of the game was already quoted, where he clearly wrote that the line of Sam has already begun, and the line of Dylan and his sister from the 7th day. Points of sympathy for Sam 24 by 16 in Dylan, if all is worked out. I've uploaded Sam to get points from Sophia's bad wife, without them you can not deal with Sophia, for example masturbation after watching TV. Thus, Sam's points are only one-third larger, although his line has begun, and Dylan did not even begin.
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Fair points. Large number of porn games here is incest that's for sure. But I can't even think about 1 with female protag that's focused only on that. Basically every game with female MC is about corruption and that's it. No other fetish - not even incest - works with such protag on its own. You can clearly see it's not a focus of this game cuz you can remove it from game and it still highly playable and doesn't feel like anything was removed. I had no points with son and game still offers a lot for me. It's clearly about corruption like every other game with female protag - it has different fetishes like incest, interracial or maybe even rape but they are all just addition to the whole corruption tag.
 
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Ignazzio said:
Fair points. Large number of porn games here is incest that's for sure. But I can't even think about 1 with female protag that's focused only on that. Basically every game with female MC is about corruption and that's it. No other fetish - not even incest - works with such protag on its own. You can clearly see it's not a focus of this game cuz you can remove it from game and it still highly playable and doesn't feel like anything was removed. I had no points with son and game still offers a lot for me. It's clearly about corruption like every other game with female protag - it has different fetishes like incest, interracial or maybe even rape but they are all just addition to the whole corruption tag.
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I understand you, you do not like incest objects. But if you remove Sam from the game and the teacher, the game will still be played. The son and daughter of Sophia is one of the main characters, the writer himself wrote about this. If they are deleted, the game will be castrated. Incest in this game is not just a tag, it's its first essence. It can be ignored, but not denied.
 
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robin1986 said:
I understand you, you do not like incest objects. But if you remove Sam from the game and the teacher, the game will still be played. The son and daughter of Sophia is one of the main characters, the writer himself wrote about this. If they are deleted, the game will be castrated. Incest in this game is not just a tag, it's its first essence. It can be ignored, but not denied.
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You don't get me. Dylan is one of the main cast just as a whole family and a couple of other characters like Sam are. Incest is just not in focus. You can remove Sam just the same way you can remove whole route with Dylan and game will still be highly playable. Ofc for you and other fans it will be worse but overall it doesn't really matter for a game as it's not built around it. I play without any incest and I can't even see any inconsistency in characters behaviour so game won't feel castrated at all as it doesn't feel like that already. In every game with FMC corruption is a main fetish and I can't really see a point in arguing with such a simple statement. I'm not saying anything against incest routes in WAM as they are there for a reason but I'm just really glad that I can play it without them and game reacts to my choices and feels as complete as with them (but much more reasonable imo).
 
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You don't get me. Dylan is one of the main cast just as a whole family and a couple of other characters like Sam are. Incest is just not in focus. You can remove Sam just the same way you can remove whole route with Dylan and game will still be highly playable. Ofc for you and other fans it will be worse but overall it doesn't really matter for a game as it's not built around it. I play without any incest and I can't even see any inconsistency in characters behaviour so game won't feel castrated at all as it doesn't feel like that already. In every game with FMC corruption is a main fetish and I can't really see a point in arguing with such a simple statement. I'm not saying anything against incest routes in WAM as they are there for a reason but I'm just really glad that I can play it without them and game reacts to my choices and feels as complete as with them (but much more reasonable imo).
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The fact is that the incest branch has not actually begun yet. Now this is the fifth day of the game. The plot with Dylan and his sister will begin to develop essentially from 7 days. Therefore now it is impossible to say what decisions are now, will affect the future. And what role the storyline of Dylan in the whole game we do not know.
 
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robin1986 said:
The fact is that the incest branch has not actually begun yet. Now this is the fifth day of the game. The plot with Dylan and his sister will begin to develop essentially from 7 days. Therefore now it is impossible to say what decisions are now, will affect the future. And what role the storyline of Dylan in the whole game we do not know.
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Ofc. Their routes might be quite extensive.
 
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