ancienregimele

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Sometimes it looks like we ourselves are trying to sabotage the game and the development progress. Look, I don't want to sound rude, but my hypothesis is that L&P is full of insecurities, and that's why he takes so much time releasing updates. He is not totally confident in how to progress the story and that's why he does changes to the plot and takes too much time figuring out how to settle the scenes. This is what happens with stoper, for example, he is never completely satisfied with his work, despite of is one of the best here, and he speaks openly about it. Stoper is even slower than L&P, his story progresses faster but that's because of the plot.

We all want the the updates happen faster and what we do? What we do? We complain and criticize even the smallest and insignificant details: that Aiden has no helmet, that he is driving in the wrong side, that Aiden guessed Sophia's dress size out of nowhere, that there shouldn't be a forest in that city, that the preview sucks and so on. We are increasing the insecurities that L&P already has even more and, in consequence, the development progress too. And for what? For what? For insignificant details in renders that we advance in a matter of seconds when we play the VN. What do you want? That L&P spends more time redoing all the renders with little mistakes?

Time ago, I wrote something about there were devs who did better renders than L&P, renders with better lighting, angles, composition, etc. L&P read it and look what happened: now L&P is obssesed with these things, spending a lot more time in them than before.

It's not that we souldn't criticize the game when we think we should do. When the Dylan twist happened I was one of the people that wrote against it, because was something incoherent and was something big, important to the plot and the chararacters. But stop complaining so much for insignificant things. The renders aren't paintings that you put in the walls of your house or in a museum and are seen multiple times in life for several minutes each one. A single render means nothing more that 10 seconds when we play the game.

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I completely understand what you're saying & agree to a certain extent but I think there's a circular aspect to this. This is connected with the old adage, "the devil finds work for idle hands." No, I'm not suggesting we're all idle & probably in most cases, far from it. Many, probably the majority of us, enjoy this game & whatever criticisms we make, still want AWAM to succeed but we play games for the escapism it provides from busy, pressured lives. It's the time between updates that leads to the analysis of every last detail. If the pace picked up between updates there wouldn't be so much time for this, so if the Dev does feel insecurity (& we don't really know), it's the time taken by the need for everything to be optimised & near-perfect that leads to the time for criticism & over-analysis, hence the circularity.

Having said that, most of the analysis is, like the the rampant speculation, often not meant to be taken too seriously. At least they're not intended to be malicious, in most cases. Where would we be without our speculations? As well as the criticism there's also a lot of well-meant suggestions, which like all advice can be ignored, or rejected without rancour on either side. I believe that this thread shows a very high level of interest in the game, which should be an antidote to any creeping insecurities.

My own preference to address the update gaps, assuming they don't improve, would be to have double, or treble the number of teasers. This still wouldn't be too many for timespans of around 5 months. We'd get to analyse more but it probably wouldn't be to such a depth. Just another suggestion....(well I like it).

One big question is, 'why do we do this?' It's because we're fans, which is short for fanatics!
 

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"Sometimes it looks like we ourselves are trying to sabotage the game and the development progress."
- Ashitanojoe, April 2021.
We are all experiencing results of psychological trauma. We just might not be ourselves anymore. Here we might have become someone else. Blue balls are not only a serious danger to physical health. Our civility, our world, our reality has been brought to the brink of a serious mental health catastrophe... The warning signs are there...
... The darkness that lurks behind these shadows must be stopped. His influence must be broken. The updates must happen. ;)

... at the very least L&P, do it for Joe...:D
 

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Yes it was...Contents of the PM from the dev View attachment 1157481
As a German, I confused the word size with height. So, Aiden knows Sophia's height, which is not really that difficult if you know your own and step in front of someone. Everyone can estimate that. And it's also possible to estimate a bust size if you have a little bit knowledge and had some girlfriends. So, tell a saleswoman the height, the bust size (you can also show it to her approximately) and that the woman has a curvy butt and a slim waistline, and I'm pretty sure an experienced salewoman will help you to find a proper one. Or two from which one will easily fit.
And if I can put my sports pants, a sports jacket, a towel and sneakers into my little gym sack, then Sophia can also easily put her slim fit jeans, her tight slim shirt and her shoes into that bag which is almost twize the size of my gym sack! And also without that it gets wrinkled!
 
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As a German, I confused the word size with height. So, Aiden knows Sophia's height, which is not really that difficult if you know your own and step in front of someone. Everyone can estimate that. And it's also possible to estimate a bust size if you have a little bit knowledge and some girlfriends. So, tell a saleswoman the height, the bust size (you can also show it to her approximately) and that the woman has a curvy butt and a slim waistline, and I'm pretty sure a experienced salewoman will help you to find a proper one. Or two from which one will easily fit.
And if I can put my sports pants, a sports jacket, a towel and sneakers into my little gym sack, then Sophia can also easily put her slim fit jeans, her tight slim shirt and her shoes into that bag which is almost twize the size of my gym sack! And also without that it gets wrinkled!
... So you are confirming that Aiden did not get the measurements from Dylan... or Dylan did not provide them to the Saleslady ahead of time?... Just checking. :LOL:
This is still all his fault to begin with. Don't worry. We are on to him. Oh, and whatever blackmail he tries on you, It won't matter. We support you anyways. Don't let him distract and hinder. We got people here that can deal with him. ;)
 
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So, does anyone want to venture a guess as to what fish would smell like today if Eve didn't swim in the ocean? - That's for you power thinkers to ponder should you need to step away from AWAM for a minute. :)
Lilith... and then seafood would be off limits.
 
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Dr.SigmundFap

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I wonder why there is no teaser for Dylans event? :confused:
L&P didn't release a teaser for Sophia/Dylan on his last major event (Hottub/Mall) event. Since L&P turned this into a major event with Sophia/Aiden, Dylan's storyline is intertwined with Sophia/Aiden's until the reader has a choice to remove Aiden from the scene without sending Dylan and Zac to boarding school in the next P.D. He might release one. Still, if he feels it will spoil or lead to a good hint of the plot, he won't do it.
 

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L&P didn't release a teaser for Sophia/Dylan on his last major event (Hottub/Mall) event. Since L&P turned this into a major event with Sophia/Aiden, Dylan's storyline is intertwined with Sophia/Aiden's until the reader has a choice to remove Aiden from the scene without sending Dylan and Zac to boarding school in the next P.D. He might release one. Still, if he feels it will spoil or lead to a good hint of the plot, he won't do it.
Wait hottub scene? what?
 

PietruccioTheHilander

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Sometimes it looks like we ourselves are trying to sabotage the game and the development progress. Look, I don't want to sound rude, but my hypothesis is that L&P is full of insecurities, and that's why he takes so much time releasing updates. He is not totally confident in how to progress the story and that's why he does changes to the plot and takes too much time figuring out how to settle the scenes. This is what happens with stoper, for example, he is never completely satisfied with his work, despite of is one of the best here, and he speaks openly about it. Stoper is even slower than L&P, his story progresses faster but that's because of the plot.

We all want the the updates happen faster and what we do? What we do? We complain and criticize even the smallest and insignificant details: that Aiden has no helmet, that he is driving in the wrong side, that Aiden guessed Sophia's dress size out of nowhere, that there shouldn't be a forest in that city, that the preview sucks and so on. We are increasing the insecurities that L&P already has even more and, in consequence, the development progress too. And for what? For what? For insignificant details in renders that we advance in a matter of seconds when we play the VN. What do you want? That L&P spends more time redoing all the renders with little mistakes?

Time ago, I wrote something about there were devs who did better renders than L&P, renders with better lighting, angles, composition, etc. L&P read it and look what happened: now L&P is obssesed with these things, spending a lot more time in them than before.

It's not that we souldn't criticize the game when we think we should do. When the Dylan twist happened I was one of the people that wrote against it, because was something incoherent and was something big, important to the plot and the chararacters. But stop complaining so much for insignificant things. The renders aren't paintings that you put in the walls of your house or in a museum and are seen multiple times in life for several minutes each one. A single render means nothing more that 10 seconds when we play the game.

Greetings.
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Maybe or maybe not. From their interaction, it's patricia that's been a key part of tearing down sophia's inhibitions. It is possible her first act of cheating will be with the very guys that her sister convinced her to flirt with and accept a future invitation to go through the museum after hours when there wouldn't be anyone else around but the 4 of them. I could see them pairing off in that situation and a choice being given to the players to either cheat or not, with patricia being the motivating voice behind that choice.


It's an erotic/porn vn, even the best written ones have a difficult time explaining the logic of most lewd acts and drama that is depicted. I said it before way back in this thread just before the last update, if the action doesn't start soon (within about 2 updates after bare minimum), the odds increase that financial support starts dropping. People are only going to complain for so long about such an issue before they let their money do the talking for them. Now, does that mean the dev is actually going to increase the pace of how things unfold? Nope. It's just an objective point of view after witnessing several devs that did similar and realized they had to get to the action scenes if they wanted to retain their financial support from fans. Establishing that one can write good erotic fiction (relatively) on top of creating the porn is a sure fire method of gaining further support for any future vns and games. Just focusing purely on one element for too long ultimately bores the crap out of any fans. If there's too much porn, it becomes repetitive and predictable to just click the skip button. If there's too much fiction and not enough porn happening, people write it off as a proverbial blue ball snooze fest (something that almost happened to MrDots when he first started out). L&P is having to learn that lesson right now, the only question is, when are they willing to begin the action that will ultimately retain and likely increase future support?
I think NTL is the only group of people who figured this all out. They create 4 updates worth of content, releases only the initial update, starts working on 5th update. Even if they runs into trouble with the update they're working on, they always have 3 more updates in their sleeve they could release and keep the fans happy. This is how they consistently release updates on time. Perfectly laid out plan.

(I maybe wrong about some of those numbers though, poor memory of mine!)
 
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