VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

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yihman1

yihman1

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Lust&Passion said:
First of all, it's not even clear if Aiden is really 17!

Secondly, Aiden is a high school bully with some connections to gang members who's got a powerful uncle. Nothing more. He's neither Richard Ramirez, nor Ted Bundy, nor Ed Gein, nor Jeffrey Dahmer, nor Charles Manson! So calm the fuck down! Yeah, I know that their victims also didn't know that they are serial killers. But you definitely misinterpret and overinterpret Aiden's role and the role of a bully in general!

Thirdly. What exactly would Aiden get out of it if he'd cause harm to Sophia? What would he win with that? He's also not a complete stranger to Sophia. He's just trying to see how far he can go with her. So, raping her in the forest would be pretty counterproductive plus neither Aiden nor any of his friends is a fucking rapist! Are you serious? Plus you don't even know what they're talking about before the drive!

Last but not least. You have the god damn option not to drive with him and put your son to the boarding school. If you think this is more realistic, do that! Nobody's forcing you to drive with Aiden nor to do his tasks! If you think incest is unrealistic. Don't go with it! Just play the good wife route and enjoy your realistic gameplay!
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Love the game, and although Aiden is not a fan favorite he brings a lot to the story and I enjoy that 10 task story-line.

It's controversial content, that some people will enjoy, but others will not. It's like NTR for instance. Don't let people complaining bring you down at all. Some people will always bitch, and you are making great art keep it up.

Nobody that has followed this game from the beginning is expecting Aiden to be pounding Sophia's pussy after this bike ride. I'd be surprised if she even gave him a handjob, and absolutely shocked if she sucked his dick. Much more likely she will probably not even do that. Maybe flash her tits to him, and he fondles her a little or maybe even some random surprise like he gives her a butt plug to wear, but she probably wouldn't, but maybe? Nobody is expecting Aiden to get his dick wet today.

I wouldn't go so far to say that Aiden is not attempting to rape Sophia based on his behavior. Having already beaten up her son, and threatening to beat him up in the future if Sophia is not cooperative in some lewd acts isn't exactly what a polite gentleman would do.

It's not unfair for someone to believe Aiden may in fact be a rapist. Going off of other characters in the story you have the subway guys. Those guys are definitely attempted rapists. So having some rapists in the story can lead people to believe that others may in fact also be rapists. When are those guys coming back btw? They are due...

Aiden although not a rapey guy like the subways guys that want to yank her pants down and threaten her with a knife is rapey in a different way. He is a bully that is blackmailing her by threatening her son's health if she does not comply with the 10 tasks. That's very rapey but a different kind of rapey.

Looking forward to the update.
 
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Твои родители знают, где ты?

Твои родители, где ты?
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Я там, где сейчас Чибу трахают как суку
 
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Exactly what I have been trying to say about Aiden for the past few pages. He does not need to anything like that in the first place And dialogues are the most key elements to determine if this event will make sense like rest of the others till now or not. Thankyou L&P for addressing this.
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Same!

I said that there is no reason to talk about Aiden as a thug, rapist and so on. He is primarily a schoolboy, but unlike other students who so far only fantasize and masturbate, he probably has a real sexual experience.

Sculpting a rapist out of Aiden, there is no point, this is overkill!
Another thing is that in the long term, when Sofia will allow herself much more than at this stage, one of the options is probably something like group sex with Aiden's friends. If, of course, L&P has such a plan, but we do not know for sure. But the violence in the relationship between Sofia and Aiden, I absolutely do not see and do not understand all this excitement.

And in general, many on this forum are in a hurry to give a negative assessment of the plot about which they have no clear idea, basing their assessments on their own fantasies. This is regrettable.
 
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Incognito Penguin said:
Lust&Passion

Since the game has progressed quiet far.. I do think having a gallery option would be useful. A scene gallery where you can play you know every interesting scenes with the dialogs, even if you didn't chose that path [like what's implemented in Milky Touch]. I know its hard, but your renders and dialogs won't go in vain. View attachment 1161757
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I've played other games with this feature & they are greatly enhanced by it. Excellent idea.
 
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Everyone's going to throw stones at me now, but I just can't keep quiet.

Lust&Passion said:
Secondly, Aiden is a high school bully with some connections to gang members who's got a powerful uncle. Nothing more. He's neither Richard Ramirez, nor Ted Bundy, nor Ed Gein, nor Jeffrey Dahmer, nor Charles Manson! So calm the fuck down! Yeah, I know that their victims also didn't know that they are serial killers. But you definitely misinterpret and overinterpret Aiden's role and the role of a bully in general!
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Thanks for the clarification. But if he's an ordinary school bully, do you understand that then Sofia's consent to blackmail is even more pointless? The purpose of the blackmail does not match the perceived risks.
Thirdly. What exactly would Aiden get out of it if he'd cause harm to Sophia? What would he win with that? He's also not a complete stranger to Sophia. He's just trying to see how far he can go with her. So, raping her in the forest would be pretty counterproductive plus neither Aiden nor any of his friends is a fucking rapist! Are you serious? Plus you don't even know what they're talking about before the drive!
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Do not be nervous, and learn to accept criticism adequately.
1) In my opinion, rape is the worst thing that can happen to a woman. That is, it was cited as the worst possible consequence of a rather stupid decision. For example, do not stick your fingers into a power outlet; do not walk at night, alone, in the bandit quarter; run away from dark alleys; do not go, anonymously, with a bully out of town, and so on.
2) You know that Ayden and his friends are nice and noble hooligans. How does Sophia know about this?

Sorry I'm trying to find logic in the plot. This is probably my fault.

Last but not least. You have the god damn option not to drive with him and put your son to the boarding school. If you think this is more realistic, do that! Nobody's forcing you to drive with Aiden nor to do his tasks! If you think incest is unrealistic. Don't go with it! Just play the good wife route and enjoy your realistic gameplay!
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It makes sense. Here I absolutely agree. Only, please, in this case, stop justifying the complete absence of intimate scenes for 5 years of development with “realism”. Otherwise it looks pretty hypocritical.

All I wanted - I said. I'm sorry that this topic caused such a pain in the author's ass, and inconvenience to the communicators. I go into reading mode.
 
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About two years ago, a high school girl was coming home from school. On the way, she meets a neighbour, about the same age, who offers to drive her home in his car. She ended up in an abandoned place, being raped by five. All young, same age, around 20.
At the trial, the victim herself asked for a reduced sentence for one of the boys, he only had vaginal sex with her. During the trial the question was often asked: why did she get into the car? and after the trial the girl's family moved to another town. It was a small town.

None of them were Richard Ramirez, nor Ted Bundy, nor Ed Gein, nor Jeffrey Dahmer, nor Charles Manson! :whistle: Just real world.

Second. The word "rape".
Here, in a conversation demonstrates lack of arguments.
e.g. I argue with my girlfriend and tell her I'd rather go to the moon for a week than spend another minute with her.
How about after that she tells everyone that I bragged that I can live on the moon.

It's not about rape, it's about what risk you're exposing yourself to. Dylan comes home with a small bruise, not all broken bones. Even for that Sophia decides to get involved by putting herself in even greater danger. Scared of a bruise and not scared of what might happen to you? :whistle:
Aiden's tasks, is it reciting poetry, solving math problems, chemistry experiments? My guess is no, it's about sex.

In my opinion, at this level, Sophia should think twice before getting on the bike. If I was writing the text, Sophia would have flatly refused to go with Aiden but, she would have agreed to do many other things ....
After the first BJ, even HJ, yes, Sophia would get on the bike and ride away with him.
 
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mogstaar said:
We should start a suicide hotline exclusively for members of this forum. If anyone calls it just plays a message "But don't you want to know how A Wife And Mother turns out?"
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"ahh fuck you dammit" - puts down the phone furiously
 
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