Talcum Powder

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Does anyone think a permanent link on the first page regarding development cycles (planned events, e.g.) would be useful? I know I'd refer to it often enough.
 
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Yes it is a possibility, since last time the jacuzzi was not working now there is a possiblity for that to happen (even if a scene in it is already happened with Liam).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the dylan/sophia event will be only visible if dylan is not at the boarding school, can you confirm that? in the next PD Dylan is coming back from the boarding school (https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-115-lust-passion.5944/post-5196619) so I guess dylan/sophia and dylan/emma are only happening of he's not at the boarding school.

Also concerning the content, there is another factor to take into account. Dylan could be home schooled by Sophia if she refuses the 2nd task. So I guess there could be a slight variation of the event at least in terms of dialogues in that case. In the other it could be Sophia tutoring Dylan.

Or, the event could be split. If Dylan is homeschooled "nothing" will happen, there will be a short scene where Sophia teach him. Otherwise (Aiden's path) the event can start as a tutoring thing and maybe deviate to a massage or something like that.
(obviously it could be the other way around, idk which way make more sense story-wise since the twist is out of the picture)


In the next PD there will be a Nathalie event. One possibility will be that again Sophia spies on her, maybe while she finds the dildo in Ellies room.
Or there could also be a switch between them: this time Nathalie spies on Sophia (in the shower, in the bedroom while changing...) and Sophia notices it and have the choice to sent her away or tease her giving her a show (without acknowledging her presence) like she did with Sam.
I'm not 100% sure but I think the sophie and dylan event will only take place if sophie decides not to hook dylan up with emma (that scene happens at school during aiden's second assignment).
So if you send Dylan to boarding school I guess it won't be possible to see that event.
 

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Decisions of Life. The game L&P is officially making on Patreon, with all characters being over 18. Ellie is Sophia's "friend" not daughter, Patricia is a "best friend", and Dylan, Sam, Jules, etc are tenants/lodgers.

Many scenes are removed as well.
whr can I find it?
 

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[QUOTE="AngutKerem, post: 5644788, member: 732102"
There is a mirror game with V0.130 available.
The Game is called DoL.
Sophia fucks with everyone. Even the neighbor's dog.
She's a real whore on foot.
Unbelievable. ]
I could not find the game. Can you send the link?
[/QUOTE]

I'd be curious about this also.
 

jumanji262

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Interesting ideas, don't stop, give us ten more. Maybe some of what you suggest will appeal to L&P!?

1) Dylan birthday party where Sophia brings the cake out and her top pops open, exposing her breasts to everyone at the party but because she is carrying the cake, she can't cover up.
Sofia puts the cake down on the table, covers her breasts, and leaves the room in embarrassment, stopping at the door, hiding to hear what the children are saying when she leaves.
The children express their admiration for what they saw and say that they would like to see Sofia's breasts again and again! They tell Dylan that he's damn lucky to have such a beautiful and sexy mom, and someone even said that he wants to fuck Sofia, but will definitely masturbate again tonight remembering Sofia's breasts. The other boys supported him.
Sofia listening to what the guys say, starts to get excited and touch herself! Then she begins to imagine how she lies down on the table instead of the cake and the boys touch Sofia.
[/QUOTE
at d Dylan bday party,Dylan or someone invites aiden, n without wa
So I now have a good wife save where I select nothing but good wife options and deny everyone, I was so bored creating this save lol

Working on a filthy save but no lesbian decisions, curious to see the difference between a "filthy + no lesbian route" and "filthy everything save"

I think I forgot some ideas I came up with in here but do remember the following. I updated some ideas and added new ideas.

1) Dylan birthday party where Sophia brings the cake out and her top pops open, exposing her breasts to everyone at the party but because she is carrying the cake, she can't cover up.

2) Underwear show with Dylan and Sam (maybe Zach as well), same as Bikini show but underwear they bought Sophia. The 2nd last option is basically a one-piece but super thing black underwear that just covers Sophia's nipples. Dylan always gives Sophia the underwear in a bag but in the final bag is a piece of paper with "birthday suit" written on it.

3) *new* Ellie has Julia stay over one night and in the morning, Sophia + Ellie + Julia shower together, this happens 2 to 3 times before it reaches a 3some.

4) Sophia uses her body to teach the boys about the birds and the bees, something they already know and they threaten to tell their mother, so they try to blackmail Sophia but she knows she can easily deny it and probably be fine. However, out of curiosity she plays along and ends up doing things that Sophia actually want to do anyway. I don't think this escalates to a 3 on 1 sex scene but more showing and ends with blowjobs maybe.

5) *new* After teaching the boys about the birds and the bees by using her own body, Sophia gets caught by their mother (Ava?) and ends up having 1 on 1 sex with the mother dominating Sophia.

6) *update* Sophia showers after coaching and a group of guys from the football team spies on her, she catches them without them knowing but lets them watch. Maybe Janitor interrupts thinking he helping Sophia but only if she showered at school early in-game and you let him watch while he jerks off.

7) *new* Sophia tries Anthony again with Alyssa watching but Zach catches them as he wonders what the noise is, it leads to Zach massaging Sophia and it escalating into more. Eventually, it builds to a 3some and along the way, Zach joins in with Dylan and Sam events, like the aforementioned underwear show.

8) *new* Dylan catches Sophia and Ellie showering which leads to Dylan showering with Sophia, also vice-versa, Ellie catches Dylan showering with Sophia and leads to the 3 of them showering together.

9) *new* Sophia catches the maid again but decides to join in with her, eventually, this leads to Ellie catching them and joining in. Maybe it eventually includes a Sophia, Maid, Julia and Ellie scene

10) Aiden task where Sophia has to do same as showing panties task but this time no underwear.

Most of these ideas are probably never going to happen but I like to come up with ideas, never know, L&P might read and incorporate some.
at d Dylan bday party ,somebody invites aiden as well n without wasting time aiden straight to d kitchen where Sophia is preparing cake n aiden end up messing Sophia's dress ,unbuttoning Sophia's shirt completely exposing hr breasts n then putting his fingers fingers through cake n massaging hr boobs n nipples with it.....

just an idea[/QUOTE]
 

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Yes it is a possibility, since last time the jacuzzi was not working now there is a possiblity for that to happen (even if a scene in it is already happened with Liam).

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the dylan/sophia event will be only visible if dylan is not at the boarding school, can you confirm that? in the next PD Dylan is coming back from the boarding school (https://f95zone.to/threads/a-wife-and-mother-v0-115-lust-passion.5944/post-5196619) so I guess dylan/sophia and dylan/emma are only happening of he's not at the boarding school.

Also concerning the content, there is another factor to take into account. Dylan could be home schooled by Sophia if she refuses the 2nd task. So I guess there could be a slight variation of the event at least in terms of dialogues in that case. In the other it could be Sophia tutoring Dylan.

Or, the event could be split. If Dylan is homeschooled "nothing" will happen, there will be a short scene where Sophia teach him. Otherwise (Aiden's path) the event can start as a tutoring thing and maybe deviate to a massage or something like that.
(obviously it could be the other way around, idk which way make more sense story-wise since the twist is out of the picture)


In the next PD release there will be a Nathalie event. One possibility will be that again Sophia spies on her, maybe while she finds the dildo in Ellies room.
Or there could also be a switch between them: this time Nathalie spies on Sophia (in the shower, in the bedroom while changing...) and Sophia notices it and have the choice to sent her away or tease her giving her a show (without acknowledging her presence) like she did with Sam.
Forgive me, what is coach Sophia again?
 

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If you send Dylan to boarding school and not do Aiden's tasks, you don't get the conversation to set Dylan up with Emma. You do however get Dylan/Marie, and Dylan/Amber options.

The next Nathalie event is this playable day (12) before Sam's concert, not next.
Yes, sorry for a moment I confused PD and release. I edited the post to avoid spreading fake news ;)

And thanks again, I completely forgot about the condition for Emma/Dylan hook-up.

So, if you are in the Aiden's path, you'll have Emma/Dylan if you choose to hook up Dylan, otherwise, in any other case, it will be Sophia/Dylan.
To be seen, as I said before, if it will be the same event or there will be changes whether it is in the homeschooling path or not.
 
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Inspired by Notretsam I decided to restart from scratch. Right away you see the incredible difference in the quality of renders from the get go to now.

(this was probably already covered in the first dozen pages of the thread so sorry for the old news)
But you also see some of the sloppy writing:
San Alejo airport is 3,000 meters above sea level, but San Alejo appears to be at sea level. Fine, but they get from the airport to the new home in just 25 minutes. So that's leaving an airport parking garage (they were parked on the 8th floor), then exiting the airport complex, some freeway driving and then some city driving, in 25 minutes. Ok, fine.

But the whole rationale of Carl taking the sports car instead of the SUV was that they were running late. But then if you refuse to let Dylan sit on your lap Carl calls his chauffeur to pick them up and says "he'll be here in a few minutes" - so how is it possible that they were running late and needed to take the faster car if the trip to the airport is so ... short?

So I haven't even got into the car from the airport and already the congruity is a mess...
 

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Inspired by Notretsam I decided to restart from scratch. Right away you see the incredible difference in the quality of renders from the get go to now.

(this was probably already covered in the first dozen pages of the thread so sorry for the old news)
But you also see some of the sloppy writing:
San Alejo airport is 3,000 meters above sea level, but San Alejo appears to be at sea level. Fine, but they get from the airport to the new home in just 25 minutes. So that's leaving an airport parking garage (they were parked on the 8th floor), then exiting the airport complex, some freeway driving and then some city driving, in 25 minutes. Ok, fine.

But the whole rationale of Carl taking the sports car instead of the SUV was that they were running late. But then if you refuse to let Dylan sit on your lap Carl calls his chauffeur to pick them up and says "he'll be here in a few minutes" - so how is it possible that they were running late and needed to take the faster car if the trip to the airport is so ... short?

So I haven't even got into the car from the airport and already the congruity is a mess...
Aren't we forgetting that the airport is on top of the 'Old Red Plateau; or 'Antigua Meseta Roja,' the formation of red sandstone visible for miles around. It cost an absolute fortune to construct & the logistics were a nightmare. It began in the 1930's, when San Alejo was an important fishing port, as part of President Roosevelt's New Deal....... connected part of the interstate ....& wasn't completed until 1954....

[This is what too long between updates can do to the average fan's mind....]
 

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Inspired by Notretsam I decided to restart from scratch. Right away you see the incredible difference in the quality of renders from the get go to now.

(this was probably already covered in the first dozen pages of the thread so sorry for the old news)
But you also see some of the sloppy writing:
San Alejo airport is 3,000 meters above sea level, but San Alejo appears to be at sea level. Fine, but they get from the airport to the new home in just 25 minutes. So that's leaving an airport parking garage (they were parked on the 8th floor), then exiting the airport complex, some freeway driving and then some city driving, in 25 minutes. Ok, fine.

But the whole rationale of Carl taking the sports car instead of the SUV was that they were running late. But then if you refuse to let Dylan sit on your lap Carl calls his chauffeur to pick them up and says "he'll be here in a few minutes" - so how is it possible that they were running late and needed to take the faster car if the trip to the airport is so ... short?

So I haven't even got into the car from the airport and already the congruity is a mess...
I missed the 3000 meters airport! :D Even assuming it is a kind of a strange conversion error and he wanted to say 3000ft to make it more "American", that still makes ~1000m.
Python:
l "I'll pack the jacket in your trunk, don't worry!"
c "Got it! OK, my Benz is in the parking garage not far away! Shall we?"
c "The men carry the luggage and the ladies relax!"
c "Oh, and don't panic if you feel like you’re getting a little less air outside. The airport is 3000 meters above sea level!"
s "That's very kind of you Carl, but actually the suitcases have wheels!"
c "Doesn't matter! Besides, the damned elevator at the parking garage is damaged. And we need to get up to the 8th level using the stairs! That's where the
reserved VIP parking places are, unfortunately!"
It's really a strange thing to detail in the dialogues, though. It makes you even think that it is placed there because it will be used later on...

The sport car thing is clearly there with the sole purpose of Dylan sitting on Sophia, but it is really unbelievable! :)
But, again, there exist people like that, so attached to their vain objects to show off that they lose touch with the reality and they find normal to use a sport car to pick up a group of 4 people + luggages.

But after all it's a work of fiction, there are poetic/artistic licences everywhere if we really start to look at every line of the script, like you can find even in the best movies or novels.
The "realism" for me is more related to the fact that the story, the characters and the events are more or less coherent. The characters, Sophia in primis, are not flat but are developed along the story and you are made part of her inner thoughts and emotions, which can lead to choices that might be classified as irrational at first but that make kind of sense when they are placed in the context of the story and the inner rationale of the character.
 
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I missed the 3000 meters airport! :D Even assuming it is a kind of a strange conversion error and he wanted to say 3000ft to make it more "American", that still makes ~1000m.
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It's really a strange thing to detail in the dialogues, though. It makes you even think that it is placed there because it will be used later on...
I wonder about that too. It's too much detail to be a throwaway.
 
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Inspired by Notretsam I decided to restart from scratch. Right away you see the incredible difference in the quality of renders from the get go to now.

(this was probably already covered in the first dozen pages of the thread so sorry for the old news)
But you also see some of the sloppy writing:
San Alejo airport is 3,000 meters above sea level, but San Alejo appears to be at sea level. Fine, but they get from the airport to the new home in just 25 minutes. So that's leaving an airport parking garage (they were parked on the 8th floor), then exiting the airport complex, some freeway driving and then some city driving, in 25 minutes. Ok, fine.

But the whole rationale of Carl taking the sports car instead of the SUV was that they were running late. But then if you refuse to let Dylan sit on your lap Carl calls his chauffeur to pick them up and says "he'll be here in a few minutes" - so how is it possible that they were running late and needed to take the faster car if the trip to the airport is so ... short?

So I haven't even got into the car from the airport and already the congruity is a mess...
There are about a half dozen cities with elevations above 3000m (mainly in Peru and Bolivia), so while odd, not unreasonable.

As for the trip taking 25 minutes, I believe they were specifically taking a detour through the city. And Carl's driver was 10 minutes away. So if the airport and both houses were on the same side of the city, that would be why the trip to the new house would have taken longer.
 

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There are about a half dozen cities with elevations above 3000m (mainly in Peru and Bolivia), so while odd, not unreasonable.
Exactly how many of those are within 20 miles of the coast?
As for the trip taking 25 minutes, I believe they were specifically taking a detour through the city.
Nope, the trip took 25 minutes. Carl and Patricia showed up a few minutes later because they took a detour (to buy something unimportant)
And Carl's driver was 10 minutes away.
That is nowhere in the script. The line is "I'm gonna call Steve and he'll be here in a few minutes."

The point I'm making of the travel time is not that it's impossible, the point is that it's such a short trip that running late could not possibly be resolved by taking a four-door sport sedan, no matter its acceleration and horsepower.
So if the airport and both houses were on the same side of the city, that would be why the trip to the new house would have taken longer.
I think you mean if they were on the opposite side of the city the trip would be longer? Either way, that's not the point.

The bigger point is, in leading up to the very first question of the game, let Dylan ride on your lap or take separate cars, the contortions L&P went through just to get to that first decision point are kind of astounding.

Now, I will concede the intent of the sports car may have been to paint Carl as such a douche bag that he would deliberately take an unsuitable vehicle on the flimsiest of pretenses. The in-game excuse is that Carl never imagined the kids would be so big. These are his niece and nephew, so he knows their ages. Is that plausible? Maybe ... But it seems more likely that it was a quick and easy way to put Dylan on Sophia's lap.

More plausible would perhaps be one of:
carl: My fault, the SUV is having maintenance this morning and I didn't think to cancel.
This would be kinda douche-like but not a flagrant disregard of others

carl: the car broke down and I had to have it towed to the shop.
cheap and easy, but more plausible perhaps?

Or, maybe more comical: The Parkers brought so much luggage that it wouldn't fit in the back of the SUV and the luggage has to be piled up on a couple of the seats taking out the back row. The choice is then either Dylan gets wedged into the back row amongst all the luggage, risking a serious injury that would remove him from the story altogether (full body paralysis, a coma story line, perhaps?) or he rides on Sophia's lap.
 
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San Luis Obispo County Regional Airport, in actuality, has an elevation of 212.3 ft. But thanks to the power of imagination and fictional storytelling, it can be whatever the writer says it is. Thereby giving us another dead horse to beat on our way to update v0.130 nirvana. Ain't life grand! :)
 
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