VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Sabertooth__]

Since Aiden is the hot topic of the thread, I would like to speak my mind too since I am also one of the few who supports the blackmail route.

Now many believe that sophia would break or submit to Aiden, or consider him her master at the end of twelve tasks, the thought seems very unrealistic too me.

One reason being L&P's way of writing and the kind of guy he comes off as I don't think he is hardcore into the master slave dynamics.

The bigger reason being that this is just 12 tasks over the course of 2 weeks. We really need porn logic here or it won't make sense. As someone who has seen 100+ mindbreak stories not once have I encountered something so mild leading to a mind break and even still I don't consider the mind break believable in them even after everything, so if this leads to sophia submitting it would be ridiculous.

Also a point was being made that Morello might loose interest in sophia. I don't even see that plausible over the course of this game. We are on playable day 12 and she did something to make Morello happy. Aiden's storyline should finish by playable Day 25 if there aren't any uncertain breaks. On day 13 she meets morello again. So in overall 12 days, we assume he'll loose all interest in sophia. Morello sees hot women everyday, he can have any hot woman he wants, if he still approached Sophia HIMSELF it must be so because she really piqued his interest.

Personally, i am not in favour of Aiden having sex with Sophia. He treats her like she is beneath him and tries to make her feel like that and in the end decides that he should fuck the one he sees beneath him. I find this situation not convincing. He has a girlfriend for that. Also since sex is consensual, in such a situation it can only work if Sophia is broken but her breaking will itself be ludicrous writing.

I do agree with the thought that the most likely end for Aiden will be one of them moving away from the school.

I see Aiden as someone who wants to only degrade Sophia and will constantly come up with ways to humiliate her. He could make her give blowjobs or Maybe have sex with strangers for the last one or two tasks but him having sex with her doesn't suit right with me.

Also Sophia will enjoy the tasks as she goes further and further but I don't believe it will ever reach the point where she is begging for more tasks. I did ask L&P if sophia will actively want to do the tasks and he said no, though it was more in context for the upcoming tasks and from his words I believe he himself hasn't decided the end for Aiden storyline. So it can actually be anything.

I'd rather she enjoy it and once the tasks ends and she sees how much she has enjoyed it, she herself could subject herself to such situations without Aiden having to tell her or even him being in the picture.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

You could be right except for the paying off bit because Aiden is already a spoilt rich kid.

I wouldn't say that for sure. Maybe she will pay him off because she can't go through the assignment anymore as she feels disgusted with the art scene and getting touched. Before the reader made the choice for Sophia, sending Dylan to boarding school or play along with the assignments, She was told to pay 200 bucks per head every day. Sophia and Aiden may come up with a lump sum that will end it all. Speculation, of course.

Spoiler: Blackmail - $200

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[mulerider]

Morello has to be an early solution. I agree too late and he is no longer enamored. Dylan, all depends on the beat down. If he waxes Aiden hard then he becomes a mini enforcer. I know how I reacted as a teenager to another adult insulting my mom. She called me off before it got ugly. That ended that. I can easily see Dylan getting that way as he is currently moving into the possessive.

Don't see how Morello can be the solution when there are many of us that don't play that unrealistic crap route, if he is not in it, he surely can't help

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

I agree with you.
Regarding L&P, I want to say that it is quite difficult to write scenes and dialogues of heroes so that it is interesting and at the same time not banal, given the need to combine a lot of facts and plot arcs.
Unfortunately, as soon as someone expresses an understanding of the complexity of the work performed by L&P, some people call such a person an L&P agent. This is not funny, it's sad because none of the ardent critics of L&P, most likely, does not work 11 hours a day himself.
If a person has to work so much, then he understands perfectly well how hard it is, not to mention the creative process, but it means creating interesting storylines and writing intriguing, exciting dialogues.
And if the pace of work slows down, then I understand that the person is tired or probably something is not working out, the process is not going smoothly. While we are waiting for this, we perceive it extremely critically, but I believe it upsets the developer no less than us.

In any case, I only hope that it will not stop working, as it has already happened with other projects, everything else is secondary and less important.

If you believe L&P works 11h a day and this is his output, then go for it, don't ask others to believe that nonsense.
L&P has been caught in numerous lies.

The last lie was that (in january) he was going to start rendering much faster because he bought three 3090s, 9 months later we find out he's only using one of those and trying to connect the second one now.

Anyone believing this guy works 11 hour a day and has the best intentions to finish this game is going in for some awakening a few months now.

 

[Old Dog]

I still believe that Alyssa will have a part to play in solving the Aiden problem.
I have no concrete evidence to support this though

 

[Deleted member 3325933]

I still believe that Alyssa will have a part to play in solving the Aiden problem.
I have no concrete evidence to support this though

Maybe the girls invite Aiden to a party and introduce him to his new fav Antonio.

 

[Bane71]

If you believe L&P works 11h a day and this is his output, then go for it, don't ask others to believe that nonsense.
L&P has been caught in numerous lies.

To some extent, it's sad that you don't really understand what I'm talking about. It's sad, because I prefer dialogue and mutual understanding to scandals, swearing and accusations.
I didn't say what I believe here, I think it's unlikely that every working day of L&P lasts 11 hours, but again, the question is, what is considered work? If intellectual, creative work, the time when he thinks about the script, the content of dialogues, etc. is considered, then perhaps his working day even exceeds 11 hours a day.

The last lie was that (in january) he was going to start rendering much faster because he bought three 3090s, 9 months later we find out he's only using one of those and trying to connect the second one now.

You say that L&P is lying, and I say that L&P has shared its plans with us. Unfortunately, our plans are not always possible to implement, I am an adult boy and I know that this happens.
It's just that our views and assessments are different, I'm not saying which of us is right, only time can show this.

Anyone believing this guy works 11 hour a day and has the best intentions to finish this game is going in for some awakening a few months now.

Again, if we talk about lies and faith. If I, like you, believed that L&P was a liar, then we would not argue with you, because I would not be here.

 

[the slayer]

any news on when it is coming out?

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

any news on when it is coming out?

Sometime in the Future.

 

[L&P's Father-in-Law]

To some extent, it's sad that you don't really understand what I'm talking about. It's sad, because I prefer dialogue and mutual understanding to scandals, swearing and accusations.
I didn't say what I believe here, I think it's unlikely that every working day of L&P lasts 11 hours, but again, the question is, what is considered work? If intellectual, creative work, the time when he thinks about the script, the content of dialogues, etc. is considered, then perhaps his working day even exceeds 11 hours a day.

You say that L&P is lying, and I say that L&P has shared its plans with us. Unfortunately, our plans are not always possible to implement, I am an adult boy and I know that this happens.
It's just that our views and assessments are different, I'm not saying which of us is right, only time can show this.

Again, if we talk about lies and faith. If I, like you, believed that L&P was a liar, then we would not argue with you, because I would not be here.

Don't take this the wrong way Bane but last time you didn't know what we were talking about when we mentioned Render Farms and this time you again are out of your depth, which is fine, but allow me to explain:

If I say "I plan doing 500 renders next month" and do 450, it's fine, anyone can understand that. It couldve been poor planning or I was sick or whatever. Plenty of things can happen.


But if I say "I'm using 2 3090 GPUs from now on therefore the rendering will be much faster" and then 9 months later I slip up without wanting to and admit I was only using 1 GPU all this time.. That's straight lying.


Saying "I can't find any translator to help me" when you have an e-mail of a translator that you dont even answer to offering his help is lying.


Events that change your plans are one thing, making stuff up is another.

 

[Old Dog]

Don't take this the wrong way Bane but last time you didn't know what we were talking about when we mentioned Render Farms and this time you again are out of your depth, which is fine, but allow me to explain:

If I say "I plan doing 500 renders next month" and do 450, it's fine, anyone can understand that. It couldve been poor planning or I was sick or whatever. Plenty of things can happen.


But if I say "I'm using 2 3090 GPUs from now on therefore the rendering will be much faster" and then 9 months later I slip up without wanting to and admit I was only using 1 GPU all this time.. That's straight lying.


Saying "I can't find any translator to help me" when you have an e-mail of a translator that you dont even answer to offering his help is lying.


Events that change your plans are one thing, making stuff up is another.

ViperDonkey is right about the two 3090 as stated by L&P he has only just started using them together so I have to ask myself why.
Also using two 3090 on large scenes would lose some of the benefit of having two cards and would be better suited on smaller scenes.
Mind you if he rendered while creating scenes it would help a lot

 

[Old Dog]

Senin gibi bir kekoya asla patron olmam kendimi yoramam 4 tane 3090ım var

Enjoy your 4 3090

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

ViperDonkey is right about the two 3090 as stated by L&P he has only just started using them together so I have to ask myself why.
Also using two 3090 on large scenes would lose some of the benefit of having two cards and would be better suited on smaller scenes.

Here is the history of the GFX issue. He started with 4 and ended up with 2 Asus, which he didn't link, as KillJoys posted.

Spoiler: GFX Upgrade - 10.4.2020

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Spoiler: GFX Upgrade - 1.30.2021

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Spoiler: GFX Upgrade - 9.5.2021

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[Bane71]

Don't take this the wrong way Bane but last time you didn't know what we were talking about when we mentioned Render Farms and this time you again are out of your depth, which is fine, but allow me to explain:

If I say "I plan doing 500 renders next month" and do 450, it's fine, anyone can understand that. It couldve been poor planning or I was sick or whatever. Plenty of things can happen.


But if I say "I'm using 2 3090 GPUs from now on therefore the rendering will be much faster" and then 9 months later I slip up without wanting to and admit I was only using 1 GPU all this time.. That's straight lying.


Saying "I can't find any translator to help me" when you have an e-mail of a translator that you dont even answer to offering his help is lying.


Events that change your plans are one thing, making stuff up is another.

First of all, dear friend, thank you for your respectful response to me.

Secondly, let me explain how I see the situation with video cards.
It is somewhat strange to me that you and some others do not allow the idea that L&P uses both video cards from the moment it announced this. It uses them and simultaneously performs two processing operations. In the case of processing a complex scene, with a large number of participants, etc., he combined the power of two video cards to work on one render. This is how I understood his message about combining two video cards to work on event raiders in a bar. But not in such a way as if he had used only one up to this point.

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

First of all, dear friend, thank you for your respectful response to me.

Secondly, let me explain how I see the situation with video cards.
It is somewhat strange to me that you and some others do not allow the idea that L&P uses both video cards from the moment it announced this. It uses them and simultaneously performs two processing operations. In the case of processing a complex scene, with a large number of participants, etc., he combined the power of two video cards to work on one render. This is how I understood his message about combining two video cards to work on event raiders in a bar. But not in such a way as if he had used only one up to this point.

Bane, I think you're missing the point here. The upgrade to the GFX is so he could render faster, as L&P said in his statement. It's not just about complex scenes. He mislead people into thinking this is why he performed the upgrade to his GFX. It was to serve two purposes - 1080p and faster rendering. From his own statement, he was only using one GFX until recently.

 

[Old Dog]

First of all, dear friend, thank you for your respectful response to me.

Secondly, let me explain how I see the situation with video cards.
It is somewhat strange to me that you and some others do not allow the idea that L&P uses both video cards from the moment it announced this. It uses them and simultaneously performs two processing operations. In the case of processing a complex scene, with a large number of participants, etc., he combined the power of two video cards to work on one render. This is how I understood his message about combining two video cards to work on event raiders in a bar. But not in such a way as if he had used only one up to this point.

This is not a go at you my friend Bane71
Maybe L&P wording was lost in translation,who knows,but somethings concerning L&P sill don't feel right.

 

[Old Dog]

Bane, I think you're missing the point here. The upgrade to the GFX is so he could render faster, as L&P said in his statement. It's not just about complex scenes. He mislead people into thinking this is why he performed the upgrade to his GFX. It was to serve two purposes - 1080p and faster rendering. From his own statement, he was only using one GFX until recently.

If I can render a 4k render in a round 20 minutes and L&P cards are at least twice as powerful as my 3070ti it makes no sense to me.
Scene Creation is the killer here

 

[Bane71]

Bane, I think you're missing the point here. The upgrade to the GFX is so he could render faster, as L&P said in his statement. It's not just about complex scenes. He mislead people into thinking this is why he performed the upgrade to his GFX. It was to serve two purposes - 1080p and faster rendering. From his own statement, he was only using one GFX until recently.

I'm sorry, I'm not an expert in this field, but who assured you that L&P used only one GFX?
Just from the fact that L&P informed us that it has combined two GFX to work on complex material! Isn't that right? But it does not follow from this that he has not previously used two GFX!
The fact that in the end we do not see a faster release of updates is not evidence of how much GFX it uses. Why it is still slow is a completely different question.

 

[Old Dog]

I'm sorry, I'm not an expert in this field, but who assured you that L&P used only one GFX?
Just from the fact that L&P informed us that it has combined two GFX to work on complex material! Isn't that right? But it does not follow from this that he has not previously used two GFX!
The fact that in the end we do not see a faster release of updates is not evidence of how much GFX it uses. Why it is still slow is a completely different question.

It goes quite a bit deeper than just complex material but that is another story.

 

[Bane71]

This is exactly how I interpreted the message but since I know nothing about GPU's and they are used, I just said to myself that maybe others are right.

I still don't know if it is a possible scenario that he has been using both cards until now as well but without linking them and for this scene he linked them because 24GB ram was not enough. If how understand is correct then the reason why he is slower now could he because he could be working on two PCs, one for rendering one for creation. Since now both GPU are linked to one he is not able to work at the same speed.

Again I know nothing so I won't take any sides.

Not often, but I communicate with L&P, unfortunately in most cases he is laconic, but the communication that we have is enough for me not to believe in this nonsense, about L&P lies, at every step.

Of course, I am a person and I can be wrong about another person, but looking at the forum from the outside, where many accuse a person of constant lies, it looks like paranoia to me.

Everyone, friends, at this point I stop participating in the discussion of this topic.