VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[armion82]

This site is the most famous one where people are looking for erotic/porn games. And the problem I got is that people here are hating against my game with the just one argument "it has no porn content yet"! A game which is in development and maybe finished for around 30%! Of course most of the people here are just looking for a quick fap but there are also some who are looking for a little more class erotic VN. And exactly these people could just getting deterred by lies and hate of these "fappers" and don't even try it. That's also why I didn't write anything here since a long time! But just looking on how much sciolism and is rising here, I just had to respond. Actually I'd prefer that who ever of my patrons is posting my new versions here behind my back wouldn't do that or at least let me finish until version 0.10!

You are asking for impossible things.And I doubt that anyone realy hate the game.Most didn't hate even the slow progress.They hate the waiting for new update.Let's be honest 2 playable days for more than 5 months is realy not enough.We understand you have problems.But everybody have some.And if you can't deal with them fast you are fired/expelled etc.Sorry but this is RL.
I decide way before Christmas that I will continue the support at least for 2019 no matter what.That time is enought to see if you realy can menage to do faster updates.And I already point 4 things that we must see at least 2-3 this year.
1.Sex with Liam-optional
2.We must see Sophia naked,no cover,pussy,tits,all the thing
3.Sophia kiss another woman-might be Alyssa,Vicky,Nathalie etc
4.Sophia kiss Dylan and Sam

 

[fidgetspinner]

This site is the most famous one where people are looking for erotic/porn games. And the problem I got is that people here are hating against my game with just one argument "it has no porn content yet"! Although I stated a lot of times before, what to expect in the next updates and why. And also how I want to build up this story! A game which is in development and maybe finished for around 30%! Of course most of the people here are just looking for a quick fap but there are also some who are looking for a little more class erotic VN. And exactly these people could just getting deterred by lies and hate of these "fappers" and don't even try it. That's also why I didn't write anything here since a long time! But just looking on how much sciolism and is rising here, I just had to respond. Actually I'd prefer that who ever of my patrons is posting my new versions here behind my back wouldn't do that or at least let me finish until version 0.10!

If you think your game is not worth seeing and you'd rather wait until 0.10 for public release why don't you pause you patreon, work until you got something worthwhile and then deliver it? You're making over 50k/year on this project yet you barely give anything new to show. 4 "event", 200's new render. C'mon man are you really that delusional? I don't understand your patrons.

 

[Akamari]

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So you find it inappropriate to remove the towel in the sauna, but you find allowing three strangers to make a show with their penis in front of her, her daughter and sister very appropriate? note that they asked for permission. and even a very filthy whore would refuse or leave the sauna in such situation. those incoherent situations and the progress and then regress in the MC behavior are taking your game down and making it unrealistic in contrary to what you claim.

Wait what? You find frontal nudity in a place such as a sauna offensive? It's like the most casual place for unsexualized public nudity.

 

[tigers]

I remember L&P saying that Sophia not wearing a bra is going to be part of the story. I wonder if this will happen in the next 2 ingame days. He is certainly saying that these two days are going to be very important....food for thought

 

[Randomtask]

OK, then give me an example how else she should behave in certain scenes! The background is, that she's a faithful. reasonable, maybe a little prude for "some hardcore porn game player" wife and mother and lived just 8 days of her life with some filthy situations and dialogues where nothing really serious happened! So... should she get wet now seeing a complete stranger groping her daughter right in front of her and thinking to be at her place? Should she take off her towel in front of some complete strangers in the sauna just like that? Should she get wet when her son's masturbating on her under the shower though just a few hours ago she made him clear that it's not right how he thinks about her? How much more dirty her thoughts can be at the current stage of the story when the janitor's wanking behind her? I repeat: some events of the next two game days are the reason why I didn't show much of her body and let her behave like she did yet!

I've read both of your posts on this little debate and you know what? Nah. It just sounds like excuses to me, the likes of which we have all heard before.

You can deny it until you're blue in the face, you already have (at great length, I might add) but all you are doing is milking your patrons for every last cent you can squeeze from them. You know it and I know it, everybody reading this little rant knows it too and so do their dogs. Or cats. Whatever.

Your denial does you no favours. Your long-winded 'explanations' do you now favours either - in fact, they serve only to compound your guilt. So carry on explaining yourself, but don't think for a second that we cannot see right through it.

 

[lockerxx]

is funny a lot of people complain but they always come back for the next upgrade!!!.
2 smalls advice from a nobody in the internet.
1-a little more of nudity will help.
2- i can live with sophia turn into a "landlady" and dylan and ellie turn into roommates.

 

[TheFapperBoy]

I really like the Sophia/Dylan story that's unfolding right now. One of the hottest scenes in the game to date is going to be when Dylan gets to see Sophia nude.

 

[OvidiusLian]

This site is the most famous one where people are looking for erotic/porn games. And the problem I got is that people here are hating against my game with just one argument "it has no porn content yet"! Although I stated a lot of times before, what to expect in the next updates and why. And also how I want to build up this story! A game which is in development and maybe finished for around 30%! Of course most of the people here are just looking for a quick fap but there are also some who are looking for a little more class erotic VN. And exactly these people could just getting deterred by lies and hate of these "fappers" and don't even try it. That's also why I didn't write anything here since a long time! But just looking on how much sciolism and is rising here, I just had to respond. Actually I'd prefer that who ever of my patrons is posting my new versions here behind my back wouldn't do that or at least let me finish until version 0.10!

Trolls will be trolls, haters will be haters... it`s not only your game, they don`t play, they don`t know what a patronage is. Focus on developing your game your way, your patrons and if you are concerned with this forum you can look at @Belle how he interacts.

Keep you good work, the haters are a few, they only speak louder.

 

[Randomtask]

is funny a lot of people complain but they always come back for the next upgrade!!!.

This, right here, is the problem, and is precisely why the dev doesn't care one iota for your complaints.

 

[momojean]

Wait what? You find frontal nudity in a place such as a sauna offensive? It's like the most casual place for unsexualized public nudity.

Maybe in your village. But in real life showing penis to women who are related is offensive no matter where. especially when we are talking about a woman who got an epileptic seizure when she accidentally show in bikini in front of her own son in her own pool.

 

[Benn Swagger]

If you think your game is not worth seeing and you'd rather wait until 0.10 for public release why don't you pause you patreon, work until you got something worthwhile and then deliver it? You're making over 50k/year on this project yet you barely give anything new to show. 4 "event", 200's new render. C'mon man are you really that delusional? I don't understand your patrons.

There's A~Z why a person become a patron of something. In this case, some people love the long build up story line. As other said, 700 patrons, which it show not really popular compare to the likes of Summertime Saga. But it's people choice, no need to question them. It's like you questioning people who support Summertime Saga, an Incest driven story line, which some people in here find it's appalling to play incest genre.

If you asking me, I don't mind if all games are incest ... in fact, I want all Traps, Gays and Futas porn banished from this site. But I don't questioning them or trolling on their thread. Respect other people, you don't like it, then don't bother it.

 

[ijako3]

Looks like because i don't like the current direction for the game and what Dev call ''realistic'' i call ''inconsistent'' in many situations that MC is involved and they way MC is thinking changes so much, im being shelved to ''fapper'' guy, that just grabs a dick, CTRL forward whole story in AVN and just calling it a day.

I goddamn love teasing, it's my favorite shiet, the foreplay and stuff and good build up storywise, but like i said already the build up in this game is really inconsistent and teasing becomes really boring because of that(few scenes like dressing game for MC husband and then Dylan and sam coming back to home and getting a surprise Sophia in red lingerie action looked awesome), especially when you read the stuff that MC is thinking or saying, the way MC is acting in one event and then another she acts like another person.

I just feel little tiny, tiny, tiny bits of progress that just jump back and forth, sometimes i feel that Sophia did some progress when it comes to her character but then she goes 2 steps back again, repeat.

 

[Hyperserver]

@Lust&Passion :

- dont be silly - i also live in Germany and a developer/coder earning 3500€ (before taxes) is common, and that is pretty enough to pay for rent, energy and all other stuff you need. mostly people earn about 2300-2400 per month on other (lesser paid) jobs and are also able to live - so dont come up with "facts" which are pure lies!
- MC started to act filthy in the first 2 episodes of the game (to "bait" patreons?) by playing on the movers for example, but after that she acts so prude, that even mother theresa seems to be a whore?
- even if you play the "good wife" path - why does she not have sex with her husband? is that a normal way a wife acts?
- i appreciate your renderings (you have several - maybe to much - assets to render together), but are they worth to wait about 5 years to finish a project?
- appreciate you stick to your believings and dreams, but do not wonder you will get the "payment" from those who believed in your game on earlier state and who are disappointed right now.

FINALLY: again sex scenes: you got so much possibilities to include some "action" even without breaking characters or the story (best example: a good wife is having sex with her husband - BASTA), but it really feels as the pace goes down and down every update.

Based on its current state you can not judge the people to leave your project and maybe have a look again once it is finished, as to pay you 270.000 € ( i took YOUR info - not changing anything = 5 years = 60 months = 270.000$ assumed the 4500$ will be constant for sure)

just to compare: i work full time at "fraunhofer Institute" (you are german too - you know this corporation) as developer/coder and i get 210.000€ (3500*12*5) - so dont tell us that you dont earn enough

STILL LAST QUESTION LEFT:
Based on your own info you make 31 days - so 8 are done = 23 left
Based on the last updates we got 1/2 day every 3 months (i respect your private issues)
let me guess i just double this rate and i concede you 1 full day every 3 Months
that would be overall nearly 6 years
so HOW DO YOU THINK to reach final goal after 3-4 years?

PS: even think that more "private issues" will delay this schedule even farther away backwards!

I dont want to insult you, nor do i want to destroy your dreams or "cut off" those who still believe in an impossible mission (imho) - all i want to do is show you with your own delivered data and facts, that you are wrong!
And believe me - there are lots of people over here smart enough to see whats going on, same as a lots are still over here who believe in god and that you will do miracle, even your own posts refute yourself

best wishes to your "dream project" (maybe nightmare project after all)

Disclaimer: Sorry that i did not Quote the whole data/facts (would be too much work), but you still can find EVERY fakt i used within your own posts somewhere!

 

[Akamari]

Maybe in your village. But in real life showing penis to women who are related is offensive no matter where. especially when we are talking about a woman who got an epileptic seizure when she accidentally show in bikini in front of her own son in her own pool.

Makes me wonder how families at nude beaches manage to get a tan with all the offense thrown around.

 

[satoshi36]

I know about the nudity and the sexy dressing. I saved it for special events which will come in the next 2 days.

So brace yourselves the next two playable days will be mind-blowing...BOOM

 

[Hyperserver]

Now she needs to at least give the next random guy a handjob!"

not the next guy, but maybe some attention to her husband while being on good wife path? what about this?

 

[ijako3]

I also want bring up another event - Sophia being soooooo drunk that she saw a Carlshrek and doing some baddy, baddy stuff that makes her probably horny but after few minutes when event changes place to the Bathroom with the neighbor it looks like she got sober so quickly, even before taking a shower to decline further action, making the event end very quickly.

It would be really easy, realistic and fitting to bring up Drunk card scenario on filthy path(that happens in many stories) and make the event go even further, much further and then MC feeling guilty or something after sobering up, but nope..

 

[halfdeadstudent]

OK and from what I should live off? It's like don't have a job for months (just a side job with which I currently could barely pay my flat) and working on it during this time 10-12 hours per day! I got people supporting me who like exactly this game how it is and hopefully see where it will go. I'm talking about this site here and because my game won't have hardcore porn elements in the near future, every update is nothing but a preprogrammed, unnecessary shitstorm! Because people here are like "hey she has stretched sexy in front of some hobos in the park with her sister! Now she needs to at least give the next random guy a handjob!"

Have you considered that this sort of situation can seem to happen naturally with creative context and proper exposition? You as all writers have limits to what your imagination can produce, maybe get an outside opinion? Don't see it as nonsensical but as a challenge.
Poeple are expecting porn in a porn game.

 

[armion82]

BTW I don't see how more realistic is Sophia having sex with Dylan on playable day 20 than doing that on day 10.

 

[satoshi36]

BTW I don't see how more realistic is Sophia having sex with Dylan on playable day 20 than doing that on day 10.

Dude it's called a build up i thought you'd know by now!!!