VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Notretsam]

*how can it be close with someone else when she isn't even having sex with her OWN HUSBAND? WOULD YOU not doubt a person not having sex with you, like a boyfriend or girlfriend or even a husband or wife even? the excuses are lame and a bouquet of roses just shrugs the whole thing off? there should be a fucking sex scene after the husband gave her that (a blowjob or even eating her out as a reward! its for only a few minutes and can't even spare that?)

this is BEYOND fictional with no shred of realism whatsoever. an 80's hentai anime have more depth

have you forgotten there is another route besides good wife?
isn't it logical to presume that the non good wife route potentially means she never has sex with her husband?
also isn't it possible when she went shopping with her sister and caught her husband in a store with younger woman, that her husband is already cheating on her? therefore they end up divorced and her husband moves out.

people need to remember the game is not finished, literally the developer can do anything with game, which so far is something completely different to most other games, a slow burn story which is very accurate story telling.

its possible via the son getting into college route that she could be black mailed into sex with the teacher, or maybe she ends up having sex with principal after getting help to deal with that teacher.

she already showered with the janitor, wouldn't take many more steps for her possible naked in shower with him and then she has sex with him.

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there is also they two guys who tried to rape her and her sister threatened with a gun, they probably looking for revenge.
Then there is the guys at the park, who her and sister teased.
Then there is her sisters husband, pretty sure he the type of guy that totally have sex with MC (and her sister prob be ok with it)
Then there is her neighbour , he already tried it with her.
Then there is the moving guys and the main moving guy, maybe he appears again.
Then there is the postman.
And that is without mentioning Dylan and Sam, or any of the potential lesbian scenes.

still think there no depth to this game? there just isn't any sex scenes which is fine.

 

[Notretsam]

He stated facts, so the obvious logic is not to trust the devs arguments anymore, nothing to sugarcoat.

But the whole discussion is somewhat meaningless in a pirate forum?! Who wants to pay is a patreon, who doesn't want will get the game for free here.

I canceled my patreon membership for this particular dev because I agree with armion82. Not in his "passionate" way but in principle.

and I stated to him that I can't speak about past promises, as am not aware of them but did state, plans are not set in stone, things can change, its part of life. If people take developers plans as exact and not realise unforeseen circumstances can change plans, then that is on them and not the developer.

Also stated developer needed to add sex scene soon to game, I personal think story is naturally going there soon.

also back to my original post, I was just stating that not everyone was inpatient with wait, there is wait in every game, its not like its a new thing.

 

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have you forgotten there is another route besides good wife?
isn't it logical to presume that the non good wife route potentially means she never has sex with her husband?
also isn't it possible when she went shopping with her sister and caught her husband in a store with younger woman, that her husband is already cheating on her? therefore they end up divorced and her husband moves out.

people need to remember the game is not finished, literally the developer can do anything with game, which so far is something completely different to most other games, a slow burn story which is very accurate story telling.

its possible via the son getting into college route that she could be black mailed into sex with the teacher, or maybe she ends up having sex with principal after getting help to deal with that teacher.

she already showered with the janitor, wouldn't take many more steps for her possible naked in shower with him and then she has sex with him.

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see this is where my beef is...if I was cheating on someone I will cover my tracks by having sex with my wife or husband just to "allay any suspicions upon me". there is none of that---not even a blowjob in the morning while the husband still sleeps---JUST ANY FORM OF INTIMACY to "cover up her sinister affair on the side"...is that so hard to do?

in JOHN (a different game here) the MC touched a man's penis (old man and the mechanic musclehead)...she didn`t have sex with them but there is a "skinship" a BIG STEP so to speak----that shows she is getting corrupted and horny and more open to affairs...and JOHN is a virtually NEW GAME compared to this awam. no touching? no counterattack? none whatsoever?? when she sees a bbc in her face and a man masturbating in front of her nude body?!? *sigh

this is not "slow corruption" this is cockblocking at its finest....with a sprinkle of milking. no wonder the dev deletes criticism posts

 

[Notretsam]

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see this is where my beef is...if I was cheating on someone I will cover my tracks by having sex with my wife or husband just to "allay any suspicions upon me". there is none of that---not even a blowjob in the morning while the husband still sleeps---JUST ANY FORM OF INTIMACY to "cover up her sinister affair on the side"...is that so hard to do?

in JOHN (a different game here) the MC touched a man's penis (old man and the mechanic musclehead)...she didn`t have sex with them but there is a "skinship" a BIG STEP so to speak----that shows she is getting corrupted and horny and more open to affairs...and JOHN is a virtually NEW GAME compared to this awam. no touching? no counterattack? none whatsoever?? when she sees a bbc in her face and a man masturbating in front of her nude body?!? *sigh

this is not "slow corruption" this is cockblocking at its finest....with a sprinkle of milking. no wonder the dev deletes criticism posts

and its also equally possible that a couple that is on a path to being divorced DO NOT have sex ever again

and its not cock blocking at all, she is a married woman who is slowly being corrupted, and either she stay faithful to her husband or she doesn't. The fact you say its cock blocking proves my point, ya'll just pissed there no sex scene and you not getting what you want, the game is not just for you.

apparently all games must have sex , sex, sex , sex and to hell with a logical reason and great story-telling on why. (that was sarcasm)

 

[lockerxx]

140 of them just for the "Sam-event"knowing how slow the game is at best they have a little kiss.

 

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and its also equally possible that a couple that is on a path to being divorced DO NOT have sex ever again

and its not cock blocking at all, she is a married woman who is slowly being corrupted, and either she stay faithful to her husband or she doesn't. The fact you say its cock blocking proves my point, ya'll just pissed there no sex scene and you not getting what you want, the game is not just for you.

apparently all games must have sex , sex, sex , sex and to hell with a logical reason and great story-telling on why. (that was sarcasm)

*yeeeah...like I said. 80`s hentai anime has MORE DEPTH than this. there is no PREMISE that they are getting a divorce...without talking to one another about the problem. did we see any of that? none. two kids after that no sex...no blowjobs..no nothing...nadda...and "the talk" that should happen was brushed off by a bouquet of fucking roses.

its a fucking MARRIED couple for chrissake! of course we expect SEX! heck it shoulda been at the VERY START OF THE fucking GAME! there shouldn`t be aNY REQUEST needed because its supposed to be EXPECTED. do you marry and work to FEED SOMEONE just so---wut...hold hands? kiss on the cheek? greet one another hello morning and night? then sleep. then rinse and repeat? SEX IS A REQUIREMENT in a MARRIAGE. its an OBLIGATION to make your wife or husband HAPPY SEXUALLY.

wow. keep defending a cockblocking milkman dev.

PS so far the "dev " has not spouted any worthwhile reason why the story is so. he just deletes criticism posts on his patreon...and now not even any news whatsoever because he maybe planning a poll for what kind of excuse he will say about the <slow update> and shit.

 

[Notretsam]

*yeeeah...like I said. 80`s hentai anime has MORE DEPTH than this. there is no PREMISE that they are getting a divorce...without talking to one another about the problem. did we see any of that? none. two kids after that no sex...no blowjobs..no nothing...nadda...and "the talk" that should happen was brushed off by a bouquet of fucking roses.

its a fucking MARRIED couple for chrissake! of course we expect SEX! heck it shoulda been at the VERY START OF THE fucking GAME! there shouldn`t be aNY REQUEST needed because its supposed to be EXPECTED. do you marry and work to FEED SOMEONE just so---wut...hold hands? kiss on the cheek? greet one another hello morning and night? then sleep. then rinse and repeat? SEX IS A REQUIREMENT in a MARRIAGE. its an OBLIGATION to make your wife or husband HAPPY SEXUALLY.

wow. keep defending a cockblocking milkman dev.

PS so far the "dev " has not spouted any worthwhile reason why the story is so. he just deletes criticism posts on his patreon...and now not even any news whatsoever because he maybe planning a poll for what kind of excuse he will say about the <slow update> and shit.

jeez u take your adult gaming way to serious, the game is not finished and I would think if there no sex in a relationship, then that in itself is a sign a couple could get divorced.

also I already stated the husband could be cheating on the wife, certainly possible outcome due to scene at store.

As for developer given a reason, personally I prefer to play a game and see for myself, instead of developer telling me and yet again, game is not finished.

I really don't see any need to complain and especially complain to the level you and other person was, as I stated before you need more patience and I would agree, you need more patience with this game, but not everyone is so against the "non cockblocking, slow corruption of this game", it actually great to see something different in a game

end of day, if you and others don't like the slow pace of game, then stop watching this thread and stop playing it then, its that simple.

 

[DrDougDoesDOS]

Why is it all these people defending this Title keep telling us "apparently all games must have sex , sex, sex , sex "... This is supposed to be a Porn game. Look up Porn in the Dictionary. It is not realistic, it is Fantasy Sex. As many have said on this thread time and again. If your not putting Porn in a Porn game don't call it Porn. This game is not yet classed as Porn and until that happens, I am going to enjoy playing this game as it's fun even without the Sex, because I actually find all this Blueballing or Cockblocking hilarious.

The Dev does make great Renders sure but the ridiculous attempts to keep the M/C's clothes on (Still laughing at Panties in a Shower) should have a "Comedy VN" label slapped on it. I can't wait for the next update because I want to see how he stops the next "Event" he's told us will be great and worth it, evolve, and then I get my Snacks out and watch 20 pages of arguing on here which is even better than the game (especially when the Dev appears on here and bites the hands that feed him). Just enjoy this nonsense guys for what it is and don't go having a Heart Attack defending or applauding it

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

I like it. It's more an erotic novel than a mindless porn.

 

[Creeping Death]

Again I have to say something about this slow build up topic. Maybe the dev got the same problem with those corruption games like me? The "problem" for me is, as long as corruption rises slowly it is hot, thrilling, the anticipation, yayy! As soon as the whole build up is "released", most of the hotness, the thrill and of course the anticipation are gone.

For example, GGGB, the Bernard//Ash route, after her first bang, yeah I wanted to see more, but it wasn't the same thrill and I lost my interesst, more or less. The same with the Ethan/Mom route, I mean all paths were Ash is now ready to fuck anyone anywhere are now boring.

 

[Angmir]

140 of them just for the "Sam-event"knowing how slow the game is at best they have a little kiss.

I'd call it a bold prediction ;-

After all Sophia did not have ANY consensual contact with any men esides her husband yet. (Few gropes without her permission is all for now)

People here though need to chill out.

THERE WILL NOT BE ANY FULL ON SEX SCENESE WITH SOPHIA IN THIS GAME FOR AT LEAST A YEAR.

Deal with it !

Author has whole story writen down from the very begining, and he wont re-write the story now compleatly just so few idiots here get to see her bang sooner.
It would ruin the whole story we had so far.
We waited so long to see it develop to this point, we must wait more for it to continue the way it was intended to !

You want to see mindless fuckfest - then get the hell out of this thread.

Ok I admit.
I am kind of anoyed with slow development - like I wished he made the updates faster, but I have no complains to the way he presents the story.
The way he unfolds the story is the reason why people are intrested in this game to start with ! And I refuse to see it ruined to please some horny kids with small brains that cant appreciate real value of well made story-driven game.

To those that have brains, and are looking for something else than just dumb fucking in games, I say keep calm and wait.
Story finaly is getting to a point where each update will bring us at least some intresting naughty content.
It will not be stright up fucking anytime soon, but It will gradualy spice up now.

I myself am REALY LOOKING FORWARD TO update 0.08 - and the beach scenes ....

I just hope he will now slacken any further ... waiting 2 months for half a day update is where I draw the line ...

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

There's a part of this neverending discussion I really can't wrap my head around... For leeches playing for absolutely free there should be but no space for yapping about the development, pace, PR, etc. At least not at this measure, for fuck's sake... And for those who financially support him - there is one very simple way to speak to his senses: money. With the flexibility Patreon gives, with no commitment, no early cancellation fees - you can send a clear and obvious message by pulling out your pledge (just like I did). What do you think is more likely to happen: your voice being finally heard, or his ditching the project and having no income of it at all? I am personally ready to take the chance and so should you.

 

[DrDougDoesDOS]

I agree with the sentiments of "Slow Build Up" Longo entirely it's why I watched this game since day 1, but he's missing every bit of build up so far for me and its gotten comical. Sophia met the Boy's at the Museum in the very 1st release back in 2017 (so long ago now) and since then we've only had a small mention of them when she took a run in the Park with Patricia. If you really wanted "Slow build up" we could have seen email messages going on in any update since then, but all we've been told is Sophia ignored them... Nice build up. I could go on ripping into these missed "Build up" bits all day but it's just not worth time or energy. Just enjoy the game and don't look so deep into it all guys it's not a Stanley Kubrick masterpiece and as Wolfy says we just don't pay if we really don't like. The problem is there are loads saying they've dropped him but he's still going up in numbers so he must be doing something right or something?

 

[Notretsam]

@DrDougal why does it have to be a porn game?

porn is more "sex with a story", most games/VN's I play are "novels with sex scenes".

I do agree that we are close to needing some pay off in one of story branches, and do find it odd (in a good way) that there no sex scene yet. Clearly the longer the developer delays adding sex scenes, more people are going get annoyed, although good to see a few people actually like me who enjoy the slow build.

I also think the point by @Longo McFap is a great one, really could be an issue when sex scene finally arrives, is a legit risk off the sex scene just not meeting the anticipation after the long build.

wouldn't surprise me if the same people complaining about no sex scene, will then complain about sex scene when it does happen.

Am personally very interesting in this slow build discussion because its what I would want to do in a game, but peoples reactions here have confirmed what I thought, that some people will want sex scenes added quickly.

 

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[DrDougDoesDOS]

@DrDougal why does it have to be a porn game?

porn is more "sex with a story", most games/VN's I play are "novels with sex scenes".

I do agree that we are close to needing some pay off in one of story branches, and do find it odd (in a good way) that there no sex scene yet. Clearly the longer the developer delays adding sex scenes, more people are going get annoyed, although good to see a few people actually like me who enjoy the slow build.

I also think the point by @Longo McFap is a great one, really could be an issue when sex scene finally arrives, is a legit risk off the sex scene just not meeting the anticipation after the long build.

wouldn't surprise me if the same people complaining about no sex scene, will then complain about sex scene when it does happen.

Am personally very interesting in this slow build discussion because its what I would want to do in a game, but peoples reactions here have confirmed what I thought, that some people will want sex scenes added quickly.

As I said in previous Post, I've been watching this since Day 1 and I am all for "Slow build up" but if you actually go back to the early days of this game when it was launched we had a whole load of Tags on this game Selling it as a Porn Sex Romp. A lot of those labels have been removed since and a lot of members who wanted the "Instant Bang" have long since given up on this game. Most of the Members here now have stuck with this game through thick and thin and a lot of us have been singing high praise of this game if you actually read the 500+ pages here, now though some of the most loyal are getting tired because it is a year and half since launch and some are starting to wonder "How long is a piece of String?" and unimpressed with the recent outburst by the Developer. Hence tension is really growing now on here as we anticipate a new update.

 

[tigers]

Heres a question....why is he including sidejob events if they are 'very very short' . The last two nursing job scenes were little and uninteresting af, and the third one seems to be going the same way, so why even bother if he is not fleshing them out....

 

[Notretsam]

As I said in previous Post, I've been watching this since Day 1 and I am all for "Slow build up" but if you actually go back to the early days of this game when it was launched we had a whole load of Tags on this game Selling it as a Porn Sex Romp. A lot of those labels have been removed since and a lot of members who wanted the "Instant Bang" have long since given up on this game. Most of the Members here now have stuck with this game through thick and thin and a lot of us have been singing high praise of this game if you actually read the 500+ pages here, now though some of the most loyal are getting tired because it is a year and half since launch and some are starting to wonder "How long is a piece of String?" and unimpressed with the recent outburst by the Developer. Hence tension is really growing now on here as we anticipate a new update.

I don't actually use my patreon account anymore, so certainly didn't see any outburst and didn't see anything about developers outburst in this thread, although haven't been paying close attention to this thread, like I have last few days.

so can u point me to where that starts in thread? or fill me in on it, most are just saying stuff about dev but not actually going into detail in replies to me. based on what am seeing in this thread from some, I can't say am surprised developer would have an outburst if he getting comments similar to replies I got.

 

[Notretsam]

Heres a question....why is he including sidejob events if they are 'very very short' . The last two nursing job scenes were little and uninteresting af, and the third one seems to be going the same way, so why even bother if he is not fleshing them out....

takes a lot to setup a new area and new characters, maybe just setting that up for first time and making sure it right before adding more depth to area, would be my guess but I am guessing.