VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

Damn bro, risking getting banned from this thread just to prove a point for S@M? a non incest side character for people that aren't into incest? I feel for you, I really do, he's not worth getting banned for, I really hope you don't get banned for this

What makes Sam a "side character"? He's important enough to get his own path in the walkthrough, which is more than we can say for someone like Aiden.

EDIT:
Aiden still doesn't have relationship points right? It's been a while since I checked.

 

[Bishop Robert]

Damn bro, risking getting banned from this thread just to prove a point for S@M? a non incest side character for people that aren't into incest? I feel for you, I really do, he's not worth getting banned for, I really hope you don't get banned for this

What makes Sam a "side character"? He's important enough to get his own path in the walkthrough, which is more than we can say for someone like Aiden.

EDIT:
Aiden still doesn't have relationship points right? It's been a while since I checked.

Yeah, Sam is the most important non incest character.

Edit: I'm not sure if important is the word I'm looking for, but I'll stick with it.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Sure he has his own path like many others in the game, they're all side characters except for Sophia & Dylan, or even Ellie I would add to that because we had to make a choice for her as well (to forgive Logan or not), we have to make choices as Dylan and play as him sometimes, all we get from S@M is "oh" "I love you Mrs. Parker" "Yes I will help with the groceries Mrs Parker" "Can I taste your nipples Mrs parker"... side character that has his own path, Aiden is also a side character but he has a much bigger impact in the game than S@M does, and that to me makes S@M nothing more than a side character that the player can play if the player chooses to play his path.

Aiden has a "big impact" on the game? Only if you're playing the Dylan route, and want to keep Dylan at home. Storywise there's no reason to accept the tasks otherwise, only that the player chooses to.

If you're not interested in the Dylan route, you can just tell Aiden to fuck off and there's no more interactions with him. Carl sorts everything out

 

[Alley_Cat]

I play the Dylan route and Aiden has a bigger impact in that route than S@M has in the entire game, to me and many others S@M is the non incest side character for people that aren't into incest.

I don't play either Dylan or Sam routes. I can still recognise who is important to the overall story or not.

If anything, sometimes I wish Aiden was more important. My biggest complaint about the Yoga event is that on the boarding school route it makes no sense for Dylan to be there. Not only is there the threat of violence against him and Zac, but the rationale that Dylan went into town and spent all his bus money makes him look like an idiot. Automatic top-ups aren't difficult to arrange, particularly since Dylan is supposedly rather fluent with computers.

 

[MO18]

It doesn't go up from 10%.

 

[Bane71]

So I went to read the text and this is all I found, Until I see an erection, I'm gonna say it was his phone in his pocket, and that S@M has a little problem with his ding-dong, until proven otherwise! View attachment 2342148

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If the text is unconvincing for you, I do not insist. For me, this is not so important, I do not have to see it, the words of the author are enough.

 

[Bane71]

It’s not that important to me either, it’s just strange to me because if you play the events with Sophia & Dylan, he almost always get an erection looking at her, just by looking… you can clearly see the bulge in his pants and even Sophia mentions it in her thoughts, S@M had Sophia on top of him with her tits out and you couldn’t even see anything, it’s nothing too crazy, but just something I noticed early on.

Perhaps in this way, by hiding Sam's erection and not visualizing it, L&P is trying not to heat up the situation so much. After all, now we know that Sam will not be the first.
By the way, I wasn't trying to argue with you, I just remembered that there was a mention of Sam's erection in the text.
But here's what I want to say in connection with this little controversy. Many believe that the game will be abandoned.
I am sure that as long as L&P receives funding for its project, it will not stop.
Another thing is that in the end, when the creation of the game is coming to its end, we will all remember the concept of realism in the game again because many of us will not get what we expected. Sofia will not become as depraved and such a Cougar as many would like, precisely because of the author's desire for realism.
I understand that this concerns the distant future, but it upsets me already now.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Perhaps in this way, by hiding Sam's erection and not visualizing it, L&P is trying not to heat up the situation so much. After all, now we know that Sam will not be the first.
By the way, I wasn't trying to argue with you, I just remembered that there was a mention of Sam's erection in the text.
But here's what I want to say in connection with this little controversy. Many believe that the game will be abandoned.
I am sure that as long as L&P receives funding for its project, it will not stop.
Another thing is that in the end, when the creation of the game is coming to its end, we will all remember the concept of realism in the game again because many of us will not get what we expected. Sofia will not become as depraved and such a Cougar as many would like, precisely because of the author's desire for realism.
I understand that this concerns the distant future, but it upsets me already now.

Except that for players like me, we've long past the point of believing L&P had any desire for realism. Or class for that matter. I still struggle to comprehend why Sophia would accept Aiden's tasks, let alone do any of them. There's too much of a risk to her marriage and career.

I see why a player might want to chose for Sophia to accept the tasks, but for Sophia herself, I don't see it. But then I don't see why Sophia would accept Sam groping her during the driveway basketball game. She's a sports teacher, and it sets a bad precedent.

 

[Lord_Xanatos]

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[lockerxx]

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[Alley_Cat]

Hard to disagree with anything here, but I will for one thing, the Aiden tasks she does them for the safety of her son Dylan and Zac, along with all the other students at that school, because Aiden told her that if she doesn't do them it's fine with him, but he will continue to bully his son and all other students, that's the only reason why she does his tasks, is to keep them safe from Aiden, at least that's what she says in her *thoughts*.

Except that not accepting the tasks is more feasible. Take Dylan and Zac out of school, and find another solution. If Carl wasn't so stupidly rich and well-connected, you might have had a point. And that's not even Sophia's only option. Alyssa offers a solution herself, although we don't know what that entails.

Aiden isn't even really a threat. Even after getting beaten up and threatened to never be seen in San Alejo again, what's the first thing Dylan does after being dropped off at the edge of the city? Hops on a bus and heads straight back into town, and spends the afternoon playing at an arcade. In public, without any concerns whatsoever.

As I said, the only reason to accept the tasks is that the player enjoys that type of content.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I'm not sure why she would even try to talk to Carl about this, Yes, he's rich and well connected around the city but so is Aiden and his stupid lawyer uncle that never lost a case in court, I'm not sure what Carl could do here, and like you said, we don't even know what Alyssa had in mind, then a little later Sophia has the option to ask Don Morello for help with Aiden, for those that no longer want to deal with Aiden and want to keep the Dylan route open which is what I did because I don't like Aiden.

Why would Dylan be concerned at all? He's not afraid of Aiden, hell he could probably even kick his ass one on one, he's like a god now that he's learning self defense

From memory Sophia doesn't speak to Carl. She speaks to Patricia, who speaks to Carl. Who, like Don Morello, doesn't seem the least bit concerned about taking on Richard Murphy. The only ones that do appear to be the police.

Also, Dylan isn't learning self-defence on the boarding school route.

 

[Bane71]

Except that for players like me, we've long past the point of believing L&P had any desire for realism. Or class for that matter. I still struggle to comprehend why Sophia would accept Aiden's tasks, let alone do any of them. There's too much of a risk to her marriage and career.

I see why a player might want to chose for Sophia to accept the tasks, but for Sophia herself, I don't see it. But then I don't see why Sophia would accept Sam groping her during the driveway basketball game. She's a sports teacher, and it sets a bad precedent.

It is a very correct remark on your part when you say that "for players like me".
It is by the fact that L&P presents different options, it attracts a different contingent of players and patrons, this is the highlight of this game, that a fairly broad layer of players find something interesting for themselves.
Of course, this is also a disadvantage at the same time, since the plot of the game will not be able to fully satisfy all the interests and all the players.
Realism is also an individual concept for each of us. For example, completing Aiden's tasks is unrealistic for you, but for other players, it looks quite realistic and justified.

Although I am sure that now, at this stage of the creation of the game, L& P probably realizes that its original plot plan was clearly insufficiently worked out. And yet, despite this remark of mine, I am extremely surprised that one person creates a game with so many intertwined arcs and relationships in the game. It seems to me that this is an impossible task for one person. At least the preparation of such a plot certainly takes a lot of time.

I don't think this game will be abandoned, at least not anytime soon, as long as people keep paying L&P he will continue to develop the game, as I'm typing this he currently has View attachment 2342628 and that number will keep increasing because there's always new people signing up on this forum and finding this game, I really hope it doesn't get abandoned because it's been my favorite game for a while, Sophia is the hottest female character I've ever seen in any game, such a beautiful goddess

I completely agree with you.
For me, Sofia is also an incredibly attractive model, despite the fact that this is just a 3D drawing.

 

[Oliver Wendell Homely]

Except that for players like me, we've long past the point of believing L&P had any desire for realism. Or class for that matter. I still struggle to comprehend why Sophia would accept Aiden's tasks, let alone do any of them. There's too much of a risk to her marriage and career.

I see why a player might want to chose for Sophia to accept the tasks, but for Sophia herself, I don't see it. But then I don't see why Sophia would accept Sam groping her during the driveway basketball game. She's a sports teacher, and it sets a bad precedent.

I think some of the scenarios Sophia finds herself in are pretty unlikely and/or her response is much more stupid than we would expect from someone like Sophia. The Aiden tasks are an example, though perhaps she's subconsciously attracted to him more than she realizes, even though her conscious mind detests him.

But overall, I think there is a fair amount of plausibility to how Sophia behaves in most (or at least many) of the in-game scenarios. Look at Mary Kay Letourneau, the American middle school teacher who in the late 1990s was convicted of raping one of her students, a 12-year old boy. They had two kids together and were eventually married for 14 years! When she began having sexual relations with the boy, Ms. Letourneau was married to an adult man and had children with him.

Ms. Letourneau was well educated and, I imagine, seemed more or less as professional and serious a person as Sophia does. Her father was a state senator in California and her brothers were advisors to a few Republican presidents (one brother, Joseph Schmitz, was a foreign policy adviser to President Trump). Like Sophia, Ms. Letourneau was a beautiful woman. And Ms. Letourneau is hardly alone as an example of a woman having inappropriate (or even illegal) sexual relationships. I could list many, and those are just the ones that appear in the news, never mind all the ones that must happen under the radar.

On the "bad wife" path, Sophia feels neglected by her husband and is lusted after by lots of other people (pretty much everyone else in the game). To me it does not seem unrealistic at all that she might respond positively to at least some of that attention. Besides, if she didn't respond positively, it wouldn't be much of a porn game. But even though in my play throughs she engages in lewd behavior whenever possible, she hasn't completely given in to those impulses (yet), as you would expect from most people if they found themselves in such circumstances in real life.

 

[qhuy729]

As always, this is always L&P's favorite time
He enjoys watching his sheep struggle to wait

 

[Bane71]

100%, the fact that he does all this on his own with no help is impressive, Yes it takes time but he's doing an incredible job with all these different paths and plots, and no I'm not kissing his ass, I'm just genuinely impressed that he does this all by himself.

It also impresses me very much. I am an amateur writer, I write fan mini stories, just mini stories, and for more than six months I have been trying to detail and write a plot for a porn game. But it turned out to be a very difficult task for me personally, much more difficult than it seemed when I started.
There is a common plot, separate plots, I'm trying to create several different routes in the game and create a relationship between them, but it's very difficult. Especially considering that the artist needs to visualize all this.
It is because I am trying to do something similar to what L&P is doing that I realized the complexity of the tasks it faces. For the same reason, I am more forgiving of his mistakes and miscalculations.

For those who, reading this post of mine, will think that I am going to do "milking" like L& P, this is not so. My task is to help the artist improve his equipment and acquire additional skills as a 3D artist. I just like it, it's my hobby. But once again, it's not very easy.

 

[CSK92]

I do not know where you went back and what were you looking at? We really don't see Sam's erection, but if I'm not mistaken, then you should not look, but read the text. It was written in the text that Sofia felt his erection. I may be wrong, I'll check later, or maybe someone else will do it.

He had a roll of quarters in his trousers!

 

[farrah]

that one has to be Alyssa.(lol she is the only one Single).

I think it's about the fact that there is "only one woman with a romantic path" in one playthrough, we still have to choose between Ellie and Alyssa.

 

[Bane71]

As always, this is always L&P's favorite time
He enjoys watching his sheep struggle to wait

Obviously, by calling people sheep, you are trying to insult them.
I won't ask you what all these people have done to you, but let me ask you, who are you if you are in the same "flock of sheep"?

 

[Dr.SigmundFap]

I don't think this game will be abandoned, at least not anytime soon, as long as people keep paying L&P he will continue to develop the game, as I'm typing this he currently has View attachment 2342628 and that number will keep increasing because there's always new people signing up on this forum and finding this game, I really hope it doesn't get abandoned because it's been my favorite game for a while, Sophia is the hottest female character I've ever seen in any game, such a beautiful goddess

He always hits that number within a month, and the following month it usually drops back down into the 1600 range. you can see the history of his Patreon account at

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. His number is stagnant right now. If it's going to be abandoned, it will not be on the Patreon number at this point unless his numbers start heading south. It will be the stress, loss of interest, and too much work for one to do that will become the problem for him to stop.