VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Bazzkot]

The way that Our Fate does it is more realistic. You bang your girlfriend while starting to develop feelings for someone else.
Once you feel that your feelings for the new girl is too much you cheat or break it up. etc. etc.

TLDR: The premise of a marriage makes it unnecessary to blue ball the player to this extreme. One sex scene somewhere in the game could have given player a sex scene without changing the overall dynamic of the game. The premise of the game is an adult game after all? This frustrates a lot of people playing the game.

The only thing that i don't like in this game is the point system and how the different routes/paths are separated.
First of all how the lesbian route is compatible with "good wife"? It doesn't make sense. And what is the reward/ending of the "good wife" path? To have sex with her hasband after 5 years ? This is ridiculus.
If you want to seperate the point system to 2 basic categories such us "good wife" and "filthy" at least make the "good wife" compatible with Dylan and Ellie as well and you can rename it to "faithfull to the family". Or make at least Dylan and Ellie paths independable to filthy points. For example why Sophia have to fuck the gym boy (to get some filthy points) to be able to progress the story with Dylan?

As you say here:
And what is the reward/ending of the "good wife" path? To have sex with her hasband after 5 years ? This is ridiculus.
That's my complain, the whole scenario is unrealistic. There is plenty of slow burn games I enjoy. Our Fate is one of them. Melody is another. But the scenario and premise is more realistic. Love it or hate it, but that's what makes incest a "good" tool for slow burn adult games. The Taboo puts the brakes on the sex side of such a relationship, where none exits for a married couple.

Ok, folks, I have a shocking suggestion. Instead of companing about how the game sucks, how much you disappointed and other similat things...let's write all this to dev in a coherent and adequate manner. That is what I did two days ago, when I realized that I had a number of questions that I wanted to get answers to.

From a small correspondence with the author and after reading his Patreon page I've learned that (according to him) that "The story is already planned out (and also already written!!!) for about 30 playable days" and he will stick to his plan. So, if we really want to make him change his mind, we need good arguments.

 

[大大啪啪]

A good update, Sophia's scale is moving forward. It's a good start. I have a curious question. Who is Sophia's corrupt line going to have sex with for the first time? Sophia seems to be synchronized with the degree of corruption in every character. Last time she showed Sam a areola. This time she showed her pubic hair to her son, and next time maybe somebody touched the pudenda. I feel that this is the main problem of the slow update of corruption stories. Sophia should find a thread to go deep into, and for other characters can proceed slowly and orderly. Such stories are rich and layered, otherwise the corruption level is the same, is it the end of group sexual intercourse?

 

[erasernew]

...for about 30 playable days" ...

We are at day 16, as i previously wrote: 14 days * 4 updates per day - 84 updates - 1,5 month per update - 7 years.... If any user left to support him....

 

[Angmir]

We are at day 16, as i previously wrote: 14 days * 4 updates per day - 84 updates - 1,5 month per update - 7 years.... If any user left to support him....

We are at day 16 but playable day 9th. There are still 21 days of story to go.
There was a week of time skip in between.

So we only about aproach 1/3 of the game.

 

[Taker Fan]

We are at day 16, as i previously wrote: 14 days * 4 updates per day - 84 updates - 1,5 month per update - 7 years.... If any user left to support him....

No, we are on playable Day 9.

 

[Neoblack]

hey guys, I cant open the full quality zip file, only the compressed one can be open. anyone else has the same problem?

 

[yihman1]

The paradox that this creator has created for themself is frustrating to me. They are at about 5500 per month now.

The claim they make is that at 6500 they will quit the part time job & hire an assistant & upgrade their hardware to get things done faster.

The second claim is that at 8000 they will quit college do the game full time & hire even more staff.

By "holding back" now with keeping this side job, not hiring staff, not upgrading the machine, and still going to college they release more slowly than they could. These very things that they claim they will do will make more money for them, but they won't do it until they are making more money in the first place.

If they cut the bullshit, and hired enough staff and upgraded machine enough and quit all the side shit right now and 100% focus on the game they would be soon making 15-20,000 a month with updates coming in 2-3 weeks not 6-7 weeks, but they won't do that until they are already there yet.

So they are purposely stuck in development hell.

If this project were a space program it would be as if the overall goal is to make it to Mars. However, the rocket fuel needed to get to Mars is not going to be bought until the ship is over halfway to Mars. Put the Fuel in NOW and it will fucking get there! but no, the ship gonna have to make a stupid return trip to space station blue balls, again and again, to refuel the thing to go slightly closer to the current goal of halfway to of Mars but returning each time to get more fuel making it slightly closer to that critical half way point. Cut that return trip shit give the thing the fucking fuel it needs and get it there! This project could be really moving and advancing with updates every 2-3 weeks and making so much more money than it currently is but it's so much wasted energy caught in the arbitrarily created red tape by the creator that doesn't have the balls to put the fuel in b/c they are not 100% sure they will get the desired funding in the end.

 

[Bazzkot]

We are at day 16, as i previously wrote: 14 days * 4 updates per day - 84 updates - 1,5 month per update - 7 years.... If any user left to support him....

Hehe, nope. We at day 16 which is also playable day 9 (according to dev's walkthrough). So, it's 21 days * 4 updates per day * 1.5 month per update = 10.5 years
I hope he's young and have to personal life

 

[Neoblack]

hey guys, I cant open the full quality zip file, only the compressed one can be open. anyone else has the same problem?

can anyone rezip and attach the zip file Please?

 

[freedom.call]

If they cut the bullshit, and hired enough staff and upgraded machine enough and quit all the side shit right now and 100% focus on the game they would be soon making 15-20,000 a month with updates coming in 2-3 weeks not 6-7 weeks, but they won't do that until they are already there yet.

That's a player's view, l&p would need 16K a month just to bring in the same total moneys. Not worth it for him.

 

[リキマル]

anyone have save scene before dylan coming in her mom bathroom?

 

[Bazzkot]

That's a player's view, l&p would need 16K a month just to bring in the same total moneys. Not worth it for him.

Also, to be fair, different devs from different countries needs different amount of moneys to live and work on the game. I know devs from Russia with team of 6 people and total profit around 6.5k per month. But, to be fair, their development progress is even slower than that of AWAM dev.

 

[yihman1]

That's a player's view, l&p would need 16K a month just to bring in the same total moneys. Not worth it for him.

The players view is the only thing that matters and it's foolish to think otherwise. It's the player's view that pays the bills. Enhancing the players view yields more money. At the end of the day happy players mean more money. It's about returns on investment. At the current pay rate of 5500 per month that is more than enough to live off of comfortably and focus on the project completely. Updates could be coming much faster & money could be made much higher from that. You are insane if you think they need 16k a month to make the same amount of money. Even without hiring any staff at all simply focusing more on the game instead of the side job would yield more money. If 40 hours a week are put into the game it's currently making over $30 an hour. What kind of "side job" does a college student have that makes more than that? Also the college is ultimately a money sink anyways. All that tuition and student loan debts could go away and just live as an entrepreneur spending on the game instead of college would yield more money long run.

 

[freedom.call]

You are insane if you think they need 16k a month to make the same amount of money.

I could be insane!

If he finishes the game 3 times faster he would need 16K a month to make the same total amount, and if he has to pay help and buy equipment even more.

 

[Joleil]

The AWAM Cycle Theory:
* Almost everyone playing this game for the first time: "holy Jesus! Best game everrr!! Im gonna pledge to the dev's patreon right away!!"
* Then you start waiting for the updates every 1.5 months only to get 50 different renders of the MC driving/walking to somewhere, 50 different renders of every single conversation no matter how trivial or pointless, and a grand total of 5 renders of MC's cleavage or pubes from weird angles and with bad lighting but enough to tease you & keep you excited to wait for the next update 1.5 month from now. The story barely moves forward. The characters barely develop. But, the renders are beautiful, story's good enough and there's barely any other games in this female protag/slow corruption/incest genre.
* You'd go on Patreon & F95 to see other people's opinions and you see a mixed bag of criticisms from those who only play these games for the sex-scenes + those with genuine constructive criticisms, as well as L&P loyalists who'd gang up on those who criticize the dev & the game + high praises from those who just started playing the game & have no clue where the criticisms come from or what the arguments are about.
* 3 weeks or so passes by and dev's barely communicating on Patreon, only posting a preview pic every week and barely answering the comments. You start to think maybe you should stop pledging to the dev for a while.
* Dev's patreon numbers go down through the month as ppl get tired of waiting and he'd very subtly hint in a random comment that he might drop the project cuz he has classes & don't make enough $ blah blah blah. The loyalists panic & feel threatened so they up their pledges to keep the numbers steady while the dev & everyone else start building hype about the next update in the weeks leading up to release.
* A few days before release, hype is to the max. Even those who constantly criticize the game & hate everything about it are suddenly on board and waiting for the "big" event that's going to take place in this update, hoping that it's THE event lol.
* Update releases to a mixed reception. The cycle continues. L&P keeps earning his $5k/month while refusing to hire anyone to help him with the renders (or any other stage of development for that matter) to speed up the process.

This is gold Jerry, GOLD!

 

[tigers]

jesus man....the linguistic mistakes are killing me....what the hell does this even mean? Punctuation and grammar pls else it completely breaks the flow

 

[freedom.call]

That is one hell of a sentence.

I guess that's what good writing looks like.

 

[CorujaCega]

Can someone answer me with i can go only lesbian (of course with the exception of the husband) and get all the lesbian content without have to get Filthy points with any male of the game? maybe i am just asking to much for a route lesbian only :/(sorry with my text have to much erros my english sucks)

 

[Bazzkot]

Can someone answer me with i can go only lesbian (of course with the exception of the husband) and get all the lesbian content without have to get Filthy points with any male of the game? maybe i am just asking to much for a route lesbian only :/(sorry with my text have to much erros my english sucks)

In theory, yes. Dev said that Good wife and Lesbian are compatible paths.

 

[bas]

can anyone rezip and attach the zip file Please?

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