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Guys guys guys, A LOT of you are missing common sense and real world experience. This DoL and AWAM and a strict look at the rules looking for nuances is RIDICULOUS. The world doesnt work like that.
His patreon was reported, a random dude from the moderation team took a look into it, saw some shit and decided to put it on a strike system. As the situation kept comming back, other moderator decided to ban the game. L&P did a "claim back", the case got reported to higher instances and they decided the final ban.
The truth is, Patreon is a business, they want to make LOTs of money, and they want to make a share of the money donated to L&P, so if it was a decision purely made by them, they would had let L&P and his freaks keep doing their shit and making them richer. BUT, they dont live in a vacuum, and the business people from Patreon have their own bosses. Those are the media (a novel like AWAM is a HUGE PR problem), they have the banks with their payment gateways, they have investors and some of them are conservative leaning, etc...
What does this mean? Well, a case like this, nice share of money, huge PR problems, was put on the desk of a 50yo attorney and a corp relationships chief's, they took an overall look of the case, and decided to ban this and similars (Naughty Neighbours also got banned from Patreon).
Did they really took the time to look at the details of the story and if Ellie was stepdaughter or legal daughter and if Dylan is 17 or 18? FUCK OFF! They don't even know who Dylan or Ellie are, what they did and what they are aiming at. They just looked at the image of mother, daughter, pussy eating -> BAAAAAAN!
Do you truly believe if this ends up on the news as a media PR scandal, any single night show would actually look at the details of DoL Ellie's age? come on! they will just show a fanmade image of Sophia sucking the shota boys cocks and general public had already made a veredict, so Patreon is evil for allowing this.
AVN novels are going to get gradually pushed out of Patreon, they dont want any of this shit as the world is gradually turning more conservative the next decade. Europe is, EEUU is, other countries already are.
SS? itch? They will receive presure also, lesser and later, but they will. At the end of the day, this is a novel about a mother fucking her kids and school boys, its not only taboo, its deeply inmoral and biologically wrong. He should had milked shorter and kicker, there is no way something like this will remain 10+ years.
His patreon was reported, a random dude from the moderation team took a look into it, saw some shit and decided to put it on a strike system. As the situation kept comming back, other moderator decided to ban the game. L&P did a "claim back", the case got reported to higher instances and they decided the final ban.
The truth is, Patreon is a business, they want to make LOTs of money, and they want to make a share of the money donated to L&P, so if it was a decision purely made by them, they would had let L&P and his freaks keep doing their shit and making them richer. BUT, they dont live in a vacuum, and the business people from Patreon have their own bosses. Those are the media (a novel like AWAM is a HUGE PR problem), they have the banks with their payment gateways, they have investors and some of them are conservative leaning, etc...
What does this mean? Well, a case like this, nice share of money, huge PR problems, was put on the desk of a 50yo attorney and a corp relationships chief's, they took an overall look of the case, and decided to ban this and similars (Naughty Neighbours also got banned from Patreon).
Did they really took the time to look at the details of the story and if Ellie was stepdaughter or legal daughter and if Dylan is 17 or 18? FUCK OFF! They don't even know who Dylan or Ellie are, what they did and what they are aiming at. They just looked at the image of mother, daughter, pussy eating -> BAAAAAAN!
Do you truly believe if this ends up on the news as a media PR scandal, any single night show would actually look at the details of DoL Ellie's age? come on! they will just show a fanmade image of Sophia sucking the shota boys cocks and general public had already made a veredict, so Patreon is evil for allowing this.
AVN novels are going to get gradually pushed out of Patreon, they dont want any of this shit as the world is gradually turning more conservative the next decade. Europe is, EEUU is, other countries already are.
SS? itch? They will receive presure also, lesser and later, but they will. At the end of the day, this is a novel about a mother fucking her kids and school boys, its not only taboo, its deeply inmoral and biologically wrong. He should had milked shorter and kicker, there is no way something like this will remain 10+ years.
Lust & nipple
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Exactly, they just don't give a shit, they didn't ban him for it.
It's literally Loli (but since it's not incest, they don't give a shit.)
A lot of people just go into denial, but the fact is the fact, you really think the characters are 18 years old ?, it just shows that you are biased and nothing more, my friend, my girlfriend, everyone who played this game all said they were teenagers under 14-16 years old, no older, no need to pretend and say that the characters are adults, it's just a way to get around patron restrictions and it always has been, it's really funny to me to watch.
The problem is incest and 2 versions of the game, the fact that the links lead to patreon is a severe violation of the rules.
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Alley_Cat
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I doubt it's a coincidence that the ban has come just before work on the 2nd side job is due to start.
rAmSiMaL
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Everyone is talking about loyal patrons and here are some real obstacles about them:
- Those that forgot about their monthly subscription which is paid without noticing at all
- Those who want to keep their anonymity and paying by credit card is a no go area
- Those having restrictions in using their credit card for such payment (e.g age)
- Those who hate change and don’t want to move from the platform they are now
- Those who are lazy
As you can see inertia helped LP to make some good money. Now he has to build that inertia from scratch…
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Most important he have to work properly after years of lazy, if he want money back
Actually he might speed up things in order to attract more people.
As I stated previously, for me this event was public gym flirting and casual touches, private room with fabric groping and explicit "sexual" moments (minor but obvious sexual gropings), showers with explicit moments were Sophia was going to act similar to the sauna boys. Now I would not be surprised to see Sophia going further like eating pussy + Hand/Boob job with cum on tits or something like that to attract more people to subscribe, that might be the "my only option is to keep going with the update" from the discord channel.
Jafo
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After reading some posts of you I think first of all you are bitter about the dev. Have you been a Patreon for some time? For me it is most of all funny to see the plot unfolding and, also for me, he gets what he deserves. But I have never been a Patreon.
Beowulf72
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He absolutely got what he deserved. This game started with a promising plot that will never accomplished after years of nothing. Slow burn is one thing, infinite burn just to get more money, another story. L&P was a master of milking and now he need to change his style and deliver fast, consistent updates at least until he gets a good amount of money back.
Lust & nipple
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I was a patron when I realized that the game was developing too slowly for me, I just refused
But I don't see any reason to be happy at all, I'm always against destroying someone else's business, this is too left-wing an agenda, I don't like it, don't pay, that's all
DylansMoM_001
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No bro its not, Im guessing the reason it got deleted because patreon found out about AWAM version. That definitely violates Patreon tos.
DylansMoM_001
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Seems like it’s going to be all full and she’ll have an option to share with them.
Jafo
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Well look at his stats here:
You must be registered to see the links
He lost a serious amount of money. Hope he has made a save from all the milk flowing...........
Lust & nipple
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It looks like a nightmare.Well look at his stats here:You must be registered to see the links
He lost a serious amount of money. Hope he has made a save from all the milk flowing...........
abram1
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L&P was literally playing with fire all these years, hoping to avoid consequences by sweeping AWAM under the DoLS rug. Eventually the whole scheme backfired right at his face. That was an extremely precarious endeavour from the moment he put religious family as a cast of this VN. And, clearly, incest is always a rake that can hit your balls at the most unexpected moment. We're all witnessing it right now.
Some alternatively gifted people might consider such an outcome as a carma, but it's an act of a jealous/whiny brat, seeing the chance to hurt L&P by pressing Patreon on the matters mentioned above.
Although, I don't believe this incident gonna change his working attitude, not one bit. It would've been fantastic from his part to come back to F95 after four year absence and simply talk to his fans, who are pirates, yes, but most of as don't hold any grudge towards him and explain the situation. Perhaps, more folks would've joined or re-joined him after an open therapy session on either of the available platforms. Ego and pride are strong with that one, so it's just a hypothetical scenario.
lockerxx
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i got answer from L&P. he doesn´t know why his page was deleted. he thinks is because the link of f95 .
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