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doccop63

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A consideration on Dylan's role in this game. I'm truly perplexed by all these reservations about corruption and incest, especially between Sophia and Dylan, but also between Sophia and Ellie, and perhaps, from what I understand, between Dylan and Ellie themselves. It seems porn games are meant to have this strange pedagogical and ethical role, making the prospect of incest so unacceptable and horrifying. It seems obvious to me that the primary and ultimate purpose of these games is to escape reality and the ethical and social norms associated with it. So welcome to the most depraved incest if it's a means of embracing a fantasy world where one can unload the anxiety and worries of everyday life through immersion in a parallel reality. It simply makes me laugh when Sam's fans, yet Dylan's detractors, fail to grasp this fundamental aspect of the visual novel. Sam is nothing more than a banal and perfectly normal neighbor friend of Sophia's son. Where's the perversion, the evasion of moral norms, the collapse of every taboo, and the rejection of the foundations of human civilization when a forty-year-old woman has sex with her son's friend who lives next door? (At least nowadays, of course). A ridiculous story of ordinary cuckoldry, perhaps a little spicy given the age difference. But so what? After all, this game offers so many options and paths (perhaps too many) that this prurient taboo is avoidable, unless you really want it. Is it the Protestant mentality, given the American audience here on this forum? Couldn't you leave it at church and have fun without so much mental wanking?
I can agree with your statements but, unfortunately, it ain't just the followers here. You know there's several "Christian" groups out there out to get All of comicdom, AVNs/KNs, AI, 3D, 2D, etc. They're the ones trying to control what you should see and say. They've gotten to the banks already and putting pressure on sites like Steam & Patreon. They're trying to work on SS as I type and soon, they'll be coming here, if they haven't already tried. This is turning into 1984. This is why all of the bickering, snitching and griping about kinks is useful to them and harmful to the escapist community that we are. We here have to learn to agree to disagree because if we don't, we won't have an f95, a Rule34, 8Muses or anything else to get away from reality.
 
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I know right? People is shaming the Dylan and Sophia thing as if that wasn't a thing at the very fucking start of the game lol. Suddenly it's so shocking "What!? Incest? In my incest-tagged game!? No way!"

Keeping Dylan close would be in fact very normal for a game like this as it is one of the main things about it. Putting the son in weird situations in front of the mom or vice-versa, it's the kind of thing that is expected. The ranch may very well offer these situations, which would help develop things.
The funny thing is, i normally like the incest setups in games... and yet the way the author of this one handled Dylan's personality, his subplot and the absolute avalanche of recent scenes where he's basically the protagonist, managed to actively turn me off from this pairing and at this point i'd rather see the little shit die a sexless virgin. Which, tbh is quite a feat; even more so when at the same time the subplot with the daughter is done pretty well.
 

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I can agree with your statements but, unfortunately, it ain't just the followers here. You know there's several "Christian" groups out there out to get All of comicdom, AVNs/KNs, AI, 3D, 2D, etc. They're the ones trying to control what you should see and say. They've gotten to the banks already and putting pressure on sites like Steam & Patreon. They're trying to work on SS as I type and soon, they'll be coming here, if they haven't already tried. This is turning into 1984. This is why all of the bickering, snitching and griping about kinks is useful to them and harmful to the escapist community that we are. We here have to learn to agree to disagree because if we don't, we won't have an f95, a Rule34, 8Muses or anything else to get away from reality.
When are they coming for Amazon? All manners of NSFW toys books etc...

ie.
 

Stephanie98

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If this game got rewritten so Sophia, Dylan, and Ellie relation were just a mom best friend, do you think it could listed on Steam? The story is super hot and really well done, it’d be such a waste for it to stay underground. More people need to see this kind of VN
 
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lockerxx

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If this game got rewritten so Sophia, Dylan, and Ellie relation were just a mom best friend, do you think it could listed on Steam? The story is super hot and really well done, it’d be such a waste for it to stay underground. More people need to see this kind of VN
no Sophie is a high school teacher and steam is against that and a lot of characters looks underage.maybe cutting Dylan/Aiden/zak/sam/Ellie/Julia and turning Patricia into her best friend could happend. :unsure:
 
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Apollodore

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Dylan/Sophia updates always makes the most amount of money for L&P and it's not going to hurt L&P numbers. Yet L&P doesn't include Dylan/Sophia update every event of the playday. Introducing penetrative sex with Sophia will also make L&P more money and yet he hasn't went for it. He has a vision for the game and he is developing it accordingly.
You are right about the first part however this totally unbalances the game. According one old poll Dylan comes first, Ellie is not very far behind ; Amber and Sam are very appreciated too, followed by Patricia.

By highlighting Dylan further, he will disappoint a large part of the players :rolleyes: (I already am a bit).

"He has a vision for the game and he is developing it accordingly." no, factually not, he changed the story, to satisfy the fans of Dylan. >>> "He has a fan's vision for the game and he is developing it accordingly"

If there was an additional character to bring to the ranch, it would have had to be someone among the well-known characters (not Zoe's daughter :cautious:) other than Dylan. Quite to advance a narrative arc with a secondary character. :coffee:
 

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First of all, I apologize for my English, but it's not my native language. Let me just say this: the game has enormous potential to develop the storyline between Dylan and Sopfia, which could make it one of the best mother-son games. The final action between them is very good and conveys the situation most realistically of any game of this type I've played. I hope the developer steps things up and adds a mother-son sex scene later this year!
 

Apollodore

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First of all, I apologize for my English, but it's not my native language. Let me just say this: the game has enormous potential to develop the storyline between Dylan and Sopfia, which could make it one of the best mother-son games. The final action between them is very good and conveys the situation most realistically of any game of this type I've played. I hope the developer steps things up and adds a mother-son sex scene later this year!
"which could make it one of the best mother-son games" "I hope the developer steps things up and adds a mother-son sex scene later this year"
>>>>>> this is not a mother-son game

it's a mother:
-son
-daughter
and wife:
-sister
-husband
-friends
-neighbors
-students
-bully
-swingers
-maid
-trainer
-old men
-...
game

imho this is what makes it unique !
and for once that we had a game with a female protagonist with multiple relations and with different roles (mother, wife, teacher, friend, employer ...), many want to reduce it to a basic mother-son relationship : "A wife and a mother", it's not just "a mother and his son"

Let's play a game with a male protagonist who would like to fuck his mother and certainly all the women in his surroundings
There's so many !

This desire to see Dylan as much as possible, I really don't understand sorry...
 

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"which could make it one of the best mother-son games" "I hope the developer steps things up and adds a mother-son sex scene later this year"
>>>>>> this is not a mother-son game

it's a mother:
-son
-daughter
and wife:
-sister
-husband
-friends
-neighbors
-students
-bully
-swingers
-maid
-trainer
-old men
-...
game

imho this is what makes it unique !
and for once that we had a game with a female protagonist with multiple relations and with different roles (mother, wife, teacher, friend, employer ...), many want to reduce it to a basic mother-son relationship : "A wife and a mother", it's not just "a mother and his son"

Let's play a game with a male protagonist who would like to fuck his mother and certainly all the women in his surroundings
There's so many !

This desire to see Dylan as much as possible, I really don't understand sorry...
We on the Fan art thread have already enjoyed it to the fullest with Ai conversion...so you're right patriotaki(Greek here for fellow old-country man)(y):LUL:
 
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Salgijash

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First of all, I apologize for my English, but it's not my native language. Let me just say this: the game has enormous potential to develop the storyline between Dylan and Sophia, which could make it one of the best mother-son games. The final action between them is very good and conveys the situation most realistically of any game of this type I've played. I hope the developer steps things up and adds a mother-son sex scene later this year!
There is nothing "realistic" in the Sophia-Dylan relationship in this game. When incest happens in real life it happens from the "position of power" i.e. it's always the parent (father most of the time) who initiates it. It most certainly does not involve "dry humping" over clothing. Similar thing is when sibling incest is happening - most of the time it's an older sibling who initiates it. Additionally, all these games have "regular porn-like sequence" i.e. handjob-blowjob-vaginal sex-anal. In real life, incestuous intercourse does not follow that gradual progression.
Same is with cheating - people in real life who have an extramarital affair, do not go at it gradually (holding hands and kissing on the cheek in the park), they go at it fully.
And that is the problem with L&P and the slow development of the game, meaning slow (as fuck) burn, and gradual corruption of Sophia as MC.
 

fishbrain

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There is nothing "realistic" in the Sophia-Dylan relationship in this game. When incest happens in real life it happens from the "position of power" i.e. it's always the parent (father most of the time) who initiates it. It most certainly does not involve "dry humping" over clothing. Similar thing is when sibling incest is happening - most of the time it's an older sibling who initiates it. Additionally, all these games have "regular porn-like sequence" i.e. handjob-blowjob-vaginal sex-anal. In real life, incestuous intercourse does not follow that gradual progression.
Same is with cheating - people in real life who have an extramarital affair, do not go at it gradually (holding hands and kissing on the cheek in the park), they go at it fully.
And that is the problem with L&P and the slow development of the game, meaning slow (as fuck) burn, and gradual corruption of Sophia as MC.
Can't speak on the incest but your point on cheating isn't always accurate. People are different, every situation is unique, not going to say it's the norm but it does sometimes happen gradually like that.
 

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There is nothing "realistic" in the Sophia-Dylan relationship in this game. When incest happens in real life it happens from the "position of power" i.e. it's always the parent (father most of the time) who initiates it. It most certainly does not involve "dry humping" over clothing. Similar thing is when sibling incest is happening - most of the time it's an older sibling who initiates it. Additionally, all these games have "regular porn-like sequence" i.e. handjob-blowjob-vaginal sex-anal. In real life, incestuous intercourse does not follow that gradual progression.
Same is with cheating - people in real life who have an extramarital affair, do not go at it gradually (holding hands and kissing on the cheek in the park), they go at it fully.
And that is the problem with L&P and the slow development of the game, meaning slow (as fuck) burn, and gradual corruption of Sophia as MC.
 
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