VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Skintex]

Any mods or save files available?

 

[AlienEDM]

KinkyGal69, you know that the age of 18, this in order to reassure good citizens too. But in reality, this age is much lower.

I do not known why all the comotion about that question of age. In my country, 18 years old is declared by law as adult person... And we have a lot of discussion to lower that law adultness to 16 years old. That means 16 years is not exactly pedo anymore, so no problem in my vision.

 

[AlienEDM]

Any mods or save files available?

Here is all my save games. Download it from Google Drive, Unzip and Copy to A Wife and Mother Game Folder.
Enjoy!

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[Manifold]

I keep saying it every couple of pages, but appreciate that L&P takes their time to develop the plot. And that they are not cowtowing to those wanting a cheap thrill. There are other games for that. I enjoy the slow burn. It keeps the imagination alive. And raises interesting questions like why Ellie knows that Christine has heart-shaped pubes? Are they getting up to mischief in the gym? And why is Ellie so interested in how Aunt Patricia kisses?

Besides, it gives great opportunities for Fan Art. If you really can't wait for Sophia to have an interracial gangbang in the gym, you can quite easily make it yourself. I'm pretty sure someone in the Fan Art thread already has. I'm tempted to create a Truth or Dare scene with Ellie and her friends, just because it fits my head canon.

It looks exactly like some of the people here are envying the dev (sorry Manifold, but that's how it looks).
His patrons get exactly what he promised them. He is being honest about times he is in vocation, about times he isn't rendering and about personal problems he has. He is steady in his "renders per month" ratio, and in his quality of renders, and he is keeping his promise about the slow pace.
If you want him to work faster, you'll have to wait untill he earns 6500$ a month so he can quit his other job and get a NASA level computer, or wait until he earns 8000$ a month so he can devote all his time in the game and maybe hire assistance (these were his goals from the start).

Everybody likes the slow burn, or slow pace as you guys put it. Nobody wants her to jump directly into gangbang mode with three shafts down her throat in a back alley. But don't you guys think there's a difference between a slow burn ingame, and the fact that in almost two years he has given only 8 updates? He can't use the excuse of doing this part time, because, once again, he could use your money to get some help.

I don't envy him since I couldn't do what he does. I just think however that he has no respect for you patreons by charging you monthly and only gives you updates every 3 to 4 months, when he could use that money to make his game develop faster, even with a slowly developing story. Popularity and success brings also a certain responsibility, certain ethics.

I don't care how honest he is in taking your money so shamelessly, that's just a fact. As was noted several times, you do realise that at this rate, the game will take years and years to finish, if he finishes it at all - who knows he might find a job after his studies, and will be "honest" about leaving the project uncompleted.

By this time after it started, even the Great Big Brother scam was over and done with...

 

[roro]

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[Alley_Cat]

Skintex - no mods that I'm aware of. Thinking about making one though, once I learn how to Python, and have inspiration for a mod. I have a basic cheat patch if your relationship isn't high enough and you let me know which needs bumping up. Will be working on a walkthrough soon.

Manifold - to clarify, I'm not a patron. Which is partly why I don't care how long they take. And for my purposes, I've got my fan art, walkthrough and possibly mods in the works. By the time I've finished writing the walkthrough, the update will probably be out, at which stage I'll have new material to work with. So for something I'm not paying for, the rate of updates actually suits me quite nicely.

 

[Creeping Death]

All regarding the age of Sam/Dylan.
Yeah I know, "underage" themes are more then controversy. But I think there is a difference between the more sexual orientated male and female. I ask every male person here if it is has never been a fantasy of them to have sex with a hot, older female teacher?! If it is not a fantasy of you, never now or in the age of fifteen, something is wrong with you. Do I think the same for a fifteen year old girl? No way! But for a male, it is one of the hottest fantasies. Tells you someone the opposite? You know he's a liar!

No way those girls I would deny to "teach" me, not now, not with thirteen, fourteen or fifteen!

 

[Kaitol]

As someone who usually likes a slow burn, I have to say even I'm a bit frustrated with the MC of this one. The only women I've met more aggressively prudish than her are like, Mormons and Quakers. And even they might raise an eyebrow at some of the lengths she goes to. It just comes off as strange for a mother of multiple children in this day and age to be that uptight about day to day stuff like bathing suits and bathroom situations. Might help to insert some dialogue somewhere early on talking about how she was raised in a hyper-conservative, traditionalist environment that would explain that.

 

[armion82]

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Now if they don't do "something" to the dressing corner,we can proclaim both Dylan and Sam for idiots

 

[lockerxx]

Now if they don't do "something" to the dressing corner,we can proclaim both Dylan and Sam for idiots

maybe they try to spy and sophia can choose to let them or no...

 

[armion82]

I think they will try only spy on her) LP won't draw any sex scenes with Dylan and Sam for now) And it is bad, I really want to see boys naked)

maybe they try to spy and sophia can choose to let them or no...

That is exactly what I am implying
Let's hope there is not another missed opportunity

 

[Deleted member 1034595]

He seems to be updating the game at a good pace from last week or so that I seen. Likely to see the new update at October and looking forward to it. I like this game, it's quite different from the straight to porn type game and the build up is nice.

 

[armion82]

He seems to be updating the game at a good pace. Likely to see October and looking forward to it. I like this game, it's quite different from the straight to porn type game and the build up is nice.

There is no more staright to porn type games.They are so rare now.Like you can count them on your hand.

 

[roro]

Everybody likes the slow burn, or slow pace as you guys put it. Nobody wants her to jump directly into gangbang mode with three shafts down her throat in a back alley. But don't you guys think there's a difference between a slow burn ingame, and the fact that in almost two years he has given only 8 updates? He can't use the excuse of doing this part time, because, once again, he could use your money to get some help.

I don't envy him since I couldn't do what he does. I just think however that he has no respect for you patreons by charging you monthly and only gives you updates every 3 to 4 months, when he could use that money to make his game develop faster, even with a slowly developing story. Popularity and success brings also a certain responsibility, certain ethics.

I don't care how honest he is in taking your money so shamelessly, that's just a fact. As was noted several times, you do realise that at this rate, the game will take years and years to finish, if he finishes it at all - who knows he might find a job after his studies, and will be "honest" about leaving the project uncompleted.

By this time after it started, even the Great Big Brother scam was over and done with...

There's an endless debate on the Patreon method. Some believe that if the payments are monthly, so should be the updates. But it clearly doesn't work like this. If L&P would have describe his project as a monthly updated one, than you're right in calling him a scammer, but he clearly haven't done that. In fact, he now has a progress meter, so we can estimate the release date ourselves and choose whether we keep donating in months we know there would not be any update.
The way I see it (and it corresponds to the old times artists patrons), the money we give him is not a payment for some kind of goods (like an update), but a donation. He advertised what each patron level gets in return, and a monthly update was never mentioned. So he's clearly not a scammer, nor should he feel shame as he takes the money we give him.
If you have a different view about the Patreon method, and think that only a monthly update gives him the right to take a monthly donation, than you shouldn't pay him.
Every patreon project has a chance to get abandoned, but I have faith in this one because of two reasons:
1. He earns a lot of money.
2. He's studying to become a teacher.
No way he'll give up on 5-6k with a teacher's salary.

 

[Old Dog]

maybe they try to spy and sophia can choose to let them or no...

Like Sam,Dylan or just Dylan spy on Sophia from the stairs maybe,Sophia catches them/him in the mirror.Like the bedroom scene with Sam. Cuckhold time for Dylan I guess maybe.

 

[DonkeyFace]

As someone who usually likes a slow burn, I have to say even I'm a bit frustrated with the MC of this one. The only women I've met more aggressively prudish than her are like, Mormons and Quakers. And even they might raise an eyebrow at some of the lengths she goes to. It just comes off as strange for a mother of multiple children in this day and age to be that uptight about day to day stuff like bathing suits and bathroom situations. Might help to insert some dialogue somewhere early on talking about how she was raised in a hyper-conservative, traditionalist environment that would explain that.

Ah but it's her prudishness that makes her fall into depravity that much more exciting.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Even Emma appears to think Sophia is a hot, older woman. And Ellie in some branches of day 17.

I've started work on my walkthrough (which hopefully will be a lot more detailed and useful than the current one), and it is really interesting to read with hindsight the early dialogue before player choices come into play, which I tend to skip when I play these days. If I end up making a mod, I may end up changing some of this dialogue (including possibly changing Dylan's apparent age), based on what a lot of what you guys are saying. Depends on what best promotes the game.

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[farrah]

That is exactly what I am implying
Let's hope there is not another missed opportunity

I'm not sure that they will have time to run upstairs to spy But someone can see her through the window, for example Ellie

 

[jdsgaara]

Is it possible to go only lesbian route? Is there incest and lesbian content?

 

[Alley_Cat]

Now I'm wondering if Ellie will be helping out behind the curtain. This way Ellie will be able see more of Sophia nekkid (more than the boys).

@jsdgaara - not really, at least without cheating. Or Modding. Both of which I happen to be currently working on. PM me for details (as to not clog up the thread).