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jamdan
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I don't think LP cares about the long term profits in regards to Dylan sex. If anything, Dylan and Sophia getting it on will boost his profits because people want porn content, not "realistic" content.
I think his issues with this update are 2 main things. I don't buy the art stuff or rendering, it's story related.
- There is no reasonable way for Sophia and Dylan to have sex in this update, it's far too soon in the story. Not just for Dylan & Sophia, but for Sophia in regards to her progress with everyone else too.
But there is also no reasonable way for them to not do something very sexual, especially with all the buildup previously and previous statements. So he has to figure out how to do sexual stuff, groping kissing etc for this event but not too much too soon.
- And that is a big issue. Because that is basically repeating Sam's hot tub event, which I'm sure he doesn't want to do and it's not much of an escalation of what happened in the bath earlier.
Dylan and Sophia make out, Dylan grabs her boobs and so on and just when it gets good...out comes Liam from bed because he heard something.
So he has to figure out how to thread the needle and keep things in the realm of semi-plausible.
I think your idea that the updates should be reversed is pretty good. The club is first and then the bath, but it's too late for that. A downside of cutting this update into 2 parts.
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I'd just like to see a conclusion to the apostles story line. Just as Sophia is about to teach and show them intercourse, the door to the room opens and Liam, Sam, Ellie, Dylan, Patricia, Carl, the movers, all of Sophia's students at school, Natalie, Amber, Neil, Claire, Dylan's soccer team, the four drunks in the park, Mr. Murray, Ellie's friends in the dance course, the college guys at the museum, the fitness instructor, spa masseurs, and the nursing home geezers all walk in at the same time through the same door, stop and look at each other saying, "What the fuck...?", the room explodes, THE END!
I almost break my pc that day when Sophia didn’t suck the janitor cock. From there i knew bullshit was coming from a long way.
They way LP work is nasty.
How the hell he didn’t even start coding.
LP you better sell fish.
Tips: Fresh fish will sells faster.
I gotta learn daz and make my own parody Sophia+ Dylan forever.
They way LP work is nasty.
How the hell he didn’t even start coding.
LP you better sell fish.
Tips: Fresh fish will sells faster.
I gotta learn daz and make my own parody Sophia+ Dylan forever.
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I think what L&P could do here is to make use of the pictures Dylan has on his phone from Sophia's photoshoot and take it a few steps further. Make Sophia pose for him, but in a slightly more daring setting compared to the bikini shoot we had a couple years back. That to me would be a hot event, even though I'm not a fan of the Dylan route personally. It would certainly make more sense than Sophia suddenly giving her son a handjob/blowjob or anything remotely close to that, no matter how she felt in parts during their bath. L&P always writes Sophia in a way that she returns to being the caring mother worried about any and everything, and so an overly sexual event would just look stupid imo.
I believe a statement from L&P exists where he addresses the Dylan events saying that they will be atleast equally hot compared to Sam's, but in a different way. Then again, he's made several statements regarding those two updates and Dylan's progress, so I'm kinda lost at this point as to what his plans are really. Guess we'll see.
I know many people here would like to see something more extreme, but I feel like it would just not be right storywise. 6 years of development or not. The story has already been butchered in parts, but going overboard with this event would just be too much imo. The entire PD has already been too much in terms of sexual encounters. It's just one day.
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Six years go by, and there are still people who say it's too soon for sexual scenes to come out.
- Of course, I also think that the conditions were not met for a sex scene to appear.
- And this is why I criticize LP.
This is why LP delays the story, and why the story gets messed up.
Maybe even after 20 years, when that time comes, there will be people who say it's too soon for a sexual scene.
And I disagree with some of your comments.
LP cares tremendously about long-term returns.
Like you said, the reason he doesn't show much and uses scenes slowly and repetitively is because of his long-term payoff.
Like you said, when Dylan is kissing Sophia and touching her breasts, if Liam opens the bathroom door instead of coming out of the bedroom, it's a rehash of Dylan part 1, and if Liam goes to the jacuzzi and kisses Sophia, it's a rehash of Sam part 1.
jamdan
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It's been talked about recently that LP uses too many environments that aren't important.
But he also underuses environments that probably should be used a lot. Like Dylan's room for example.
I can't think of any major events in Dylan's room (where his room is the main part, not just a transitional thing) and this event would make a lot of sense to take place in his room.
It's private. They won't get caught or walked in on (unless of course LP uses his standard intrusion to end the event.). And of course, it could facilitate more conversation or something similar.
Your photoshoot idea is good. Combining that with Dylan's room.
Dylan could easily get her to pose in her room. Would it be similar to Sam's painting? Sure, but it's more plausible than the hot tub at 2AM or skinny dipping in your backyard pool in the moonlight. Those events make more sense during the day when nobody is around.
It could also be a chance to get some humor into the game, which takes itself way too seriously. I think this is a big reason for the struggles recently, there is no serious way to do half the things in this game, yet LP ties anyway because it's "erotic".
Scenario:
Sophia + Dylan come home and someway or another end up in his room.
Sophia sees his photo of herself.
Dylan uses that as an excuse to get her to model.
Sophia, being slightly drunk, agrees.
X number of poses using different levels of undressed.
When Sophia is finished, since she is having fun and is slightly drunk, she asks Dylan to pose for her.
Of course, he agrees and poses himself (this is meant to be humorous, unlike Sam Dylan doesn't transform into a male model out of no where).
Sophia and Dylan laugh etc. Kisses and hugs and...stuff.
They make too much noise and Liam knocks on the door...
Dylan said he was watching funny videos...Liam says whatever and wonders off to the toilet.
Sophia takes the chance to sneak back into their room.
Liam shows up, asks where she has been, she says she went to Ambers house (or some other plausible excuse)
And finally...a kiss goodnight. Where Sophia thinks about kissing Liam right after doing that stuff with Dylan.
You've re-interpreted the 'realism' issue to suit your line of contention, as in 'the Dev only meant that the pictures would be realistic.' Now you're suggesting I take AWAM seriously & you're calling me "stupid" again, mainly because I hold the opposite POV to yourself it seems. I've never taken AWAM seriously but came to it for escapism. Despite what has been stated elsewhere on this thread, I don't live a "cosy" life, (the opposite in fact) & relish the chance of a good erotic story. Fat chance these days.
Early on I overlooked the employment law issue raised by the Principal's breach of contract, i.e. waiting until Sophia had started work before informing her that only part-time hours could be worked. It may have escaped many fan's attention but that was massive. As to myself, I did what I always used to do & cut the Dev some slack, rationalising it away by surmising that Sophia wouldn't want to "rock the boat" in a new job, in a new city. She basically didn't need the hassle.
It's an issue I know about from RL, having been hauled before a tribunal accused of breach of contract. I walked away "not guilty" eventually but it is a career damager & potential career breaker & it was a very close run thing. Did I use my experience to criticise the Dev..... no. It wouldn't be the last time that I ignored reality regarding AWAM & I'm guessing most of us here could say the same. We know what fiction & fantasy are & the suspension of disbelief they require. We're not "stupid."
As I worked for 15 years in HR in organisations employing thousands, sometimes tens of thousands of people, occasionally, (thankfully rarely), I would come across some of the most depraved sexual activities of which human beings are capable & I'm not talking about office love affairs & the lies & work disruption they can generate. I have a particular distaste for underwear theft BUT I would never try to exclude it from a work of fiction. What I definitely WOULDN'T do, however, would be to make it a hobby of the romantic lead, or a joint MC. It's a sign of how far AWAM has de-generated that Sophia's reaction to her dear boy's abhorrent behaviour is to fund a night on the town with him. Incest or not, porn logic notwithstanding, nobody ever made it with a woman by stealing her underwear, unless it was some sort of role-play. More 'realistic' as a seduction technique would have been for Dylan to stick a finger up his nose, stand on one leg, jump up on the garden wall & try to imitate a seagull's call.
As for the children, by which I assume you mean the apostles, there was no way any of that could be rationalised away. I ignored it by regarding it as one of the old style superhero "alternative" stories that DC comics made a habit of producing. They could be ignored as "non canon," some turned out to be "dreams," so that my virgin schoolboy self didn't have to worry about such dross as, "What if Jimmy Olsen was an alien?" or "What if Lois Lane had the superpowers?" No wonder Marvel Comics became the market leader back then.
It begs the question of what is going to happen to that 2nd side job on Steam? They can't be aged as with Dylan because that would be even worse than the present nonsense.
I suggested this years ago. I proposed that the person should not have previously been associated with the game, thus acting in a neutral capacity, as with the best editors in the publishing industry. As things got worse & the need for an editor became more obvious, I offered to do it myself, for free, of course.
This wouldn't have been so good & those who dislike me would have been appalled but it was a way of offering practical help, as opposed to criticising. I also proposed to consult with others concerning kinks which I didn't follow. There was naturally the safeguard that the Dev had the final word, so, in theory, no bias either conscious or unconscious should have crept in. I did once edit many years worth of a local newspaper, temporarily employed within a limited timeframe, in the era before PCs.
If the Dev ever read it, I don't know but the need for an editor seems greater now than ever.
Don't run the risk of missing the point, sir...lol Every1 knows what you're talking about when you mention oedipus, as I believe even this game has at some point. The real concern here...is how to keep a kid who wants to kick his dad's ass, with the tools to do so now - from kicking his dad's ass. I know l&p didn't think this through until right now. What could happen is a stand off/re-organization of inner household dynamics between Dylan & Liam. What's likeliest to happen instead, is Sophia tries to bribe Dylan into not confronting his Father about the photoshoot, given how (till-death) reluctant she was to tell Dylan about it at all. He (l&p) still doesn't want them to have sex yet, cuz that blows the emotional load (unless they include ellie/but where doez that leave Liam?), so odds are he uses this as a way to tease some more, exhausting ALL POSSIBLE forms of foreplay between these 2, making whenever they DO have sex - quite frankly Boring.
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I was very amused, in a good way, by your appreciation of the "abhorrent" attitudes of the Great Manipulator.
On the one hand, I think that the attitude of stealing his mother's underwear to jerk off can be subdivided into 3 paths that are as logical as they are fun: 1) Exhausted by her son's attitude, Sophia finally comments that to Liam, and the cuckold adjusts his pants like a man, and punches Dylan in the face. He barely has a few karate classes, and there is the question of parental respect and knowing that he is totally lacking, for which he will not be able to defend himself 2) Making a demonstration of humanity, the couple immediately agree to send Dylan to boarding school, not to see him again until Christmas, and they agree with the psycho-pedagogical office to exhaustively monitor the behavior of the little psychopath. Or, to add a lot of humor to the plot, 3) That these behavioral tendencies are clearly manifested in Dylan. Anyone with basic knowledge in psychology knows that this happens as soon as their plan fails. It would be extremely interesting to see Dylan's reaction in that case. It can beextremely fun.
To finish, your comment reminded me of the movie "There's something about Mary" in which there was the stalker who broke out in purulent pimples for his morbidity of stealing Mary's shoes ;-) any similarity with our adolescent anti-hero, I think it's not too much of a coincidence LOL
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Well, obviously they copy the most pathetic, there are so many good ideas and attractive lines to develop, from this game... the copycats focus on the ridiculous thing of "touching the fabric".
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So the Subway thugs are the only survivors? That's a shame.
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"Oh no! Opposing views!"
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And it's all L&P fault. That guy is retarded
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"Nice shoes. Let's fuck." Does that count?
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This is a thread on F95.
That means that it will never be an echo chamber of either:
Love and worship of L&P
or
Useless and hateful criticism of L&P
Since we are all here providing our commentary for free - it will span the gamut from positive to negative regarding the dev and his 'business' practices re: AWAM.
If you don't want to read what you don't agree with, put all of those posters (include me if that helps) on ignore.
This simply means that you will no longer have to suffer opinions different than yours once you identify the perpetrators.
Many of us here are former supporters who got frustrated with broken promises and eventually stopped supporting L&P.
You have the right to have your opinion (just like everyone else on this thread).
It is even better if you share Why you have that opinion, unless you are not interested in a genuine discussion. Ideally, your post will result in a discussion with some agreeing with you and others not, hopefully with most providing their reasoning as part of the discussion versus the oh so nebulous 'facepalm' which says nothing specific and heralds some level of disagreement with the poster, their existence or both...
I am one of the people who generally likes AWAM up to this point in time.
My issues with AWAM are a dev that over-promises and underdelivers coupled with an AVN that can only be roadkill trying to cross the highway of time to get to PD 30 complete.
I won't regurgitate all of my reasoning for this assessment... instead, let me ask you two questions based on the statement below.
(The current estimate among many people here following the development cycle of AWAM is that we will not reach PD 30 complete until sometime after the RL year 2050*.)
My questions for you:
1. Are you fine giving a dev your $ support for 3 decades of your life while you wait for AWAM to reach PD 30 complete?
I'm asking if you are willing to vote with your wallet to maintain support for 360+ monthly payments to L&P versus facepalm responses coupled with the occasional 'stop the hate' posts which cost you $0.00.
2. Do you think it is a normal and reasonable 'business' practice in AVN creation to ask for supporters to provide you with $ donations for > 35 years to, hopefully, get 1 complete AVN at the end of that 35+ year period?
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