VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Jimbles]

It's up to him to tell his story the way he wants it, that's out of the question. I'm more bothered by the speed with which he releases updates, especially when he announces that it might be over soon because he doesn't have the time.

For me this is more of a cost-benefit factor. Apparently it's just one developer and he gets 4000$/month. He needs 2-2.5 months for his updates. That means every update earns him 8000$. (not quite, there are certainly deductions).

I don't see the relation here. If you look at what other teams do with much less. Especially when he writes he doesn't have the time because of a side job, I don't understand the world anymore. He earns a lot of money with this project and that should be his most important topic next to his education.

Or he looks for help, because that's what the money is for. Because if he can find people now and be trained, the project could continue later. Apparently he is now looking for a programmer, you can only hope that it helps.

To blackmail the people with the threat "If I don't get much more money, the game dies". is just not proper behavior.

With what he earns, it's not presumptuous to expect an update of this size every month.

Pretty much. I mean, 4k a month is a lot of money to some, and not enough to survive on for others, depending on some variables.

I think hiring some help could be good and definitely help with the speed of updating. Unfortunately, the way I'm reading his post, the programmer isn't there to help with the game, but instead to help create a website (don't worry, I'm sure there will be a paywall).

This game has nice looking renders (not always perfect, but very nice) and a decent plot and character development (though the writing/grammar could use some work, also a lot of the writing makes me think the dev has never been intimate with a woman, but I still enjoy it). However, my complaint has always been the same, there is so much waste in this game. The game is 3gbs (3300+ images?), but most of those images are completely useless. There is a certain extent of fluff images needed for proper scripting and development, however, the amount of time devoted to creating a 50 render scene on a lecture about the Pythagorean theorem or going to the dentist with seemingly no point or use to the story is what causes this game to lag so hard. It's like the dev goes off and gets some new assets for Daz and creates a bunch of irrelevant renders around them whether they pertain to the story or not.

I wanted to see this game succeed because, despite the crawl, I think it has a ton of potential. I know how long it takes to come up with decent looking renders and write a script, especially as a single person, it's a ton of work. However, I'm now wondering if the dev is running out of ideas of how to advance the story, if he's just in over his head, or if he's dragging things out in hopes of getting a larger following in order to make more money (instead of creating multiple shorter yet still well-developed games and building an audience over time). At this point, I think the dev is just milking his patrons, which is why I pulled my support. I'll check back in a couple of months to see if anything has changed, but I don't expect it to.

 

[farrah]

You realise that all nympho slut needed 1 year before even going for sex with someone other than boyfriend or husband.
Here we needed 1 year for watching others have sex?C'mon that should happen way earlier.After all she don't have sex from what-half month,probably more?My bet is they need at least 1 week to pack all the things before 0.01 and during that week there is no sex too.And I don't feel it like she have 40+ filthy points.There should be much more difference between 10 FP and 25 FP and 40FP.But nothing so far.He goes this way.You have 30 points you get this scene,you don't have you get nothing.That is exactly like the realy old game books where we have only 2 outcomes and nothing in the middle.

Sophia will not be a nymph-whore, we will not even have a threesome (unless the author changes her mind and we have Patricia and Carl with Sophia).
But many indulge themselves with illusions, invent something and then shout that not have in the game, and who is to blame. Just know how to wait, the game has a clear plan and I see that it works. Tension is growing stronger and stronger. Especially gw/f points, and their sum are needed to launch events. And it is not known what their sum means anything else.I'm tired explaining all of this, especially since you have been in this topic for a long time and should know all of this, if you read posts ofc.

 

[armion82]

Sophia will not be a nymph-whore, we will not even have a threesome (unless the author changes her mind and we have Patricia and Carl with Sophia).
But many indulge themselves with illusions, invent something and then shout that not have in the game, and who is to blame. Just know how to wait, the game has a clear plan and I see that it works. Tension is growing stronger and stronger. Especially gw/f points, and their sum are needed to launch events. And it is not known what their sum means anything else.I'm tired explaining all of this, especially since you have been in this topic for a long time and should know all of this, if you read posts ofc.

The problem is the wait when there is a danger the game will be over before anything happen.Does he realy consider to abandon the game after 4 months?

 

[farrah]

The problem is the wait when there is a danger the game will be over before anything happen.Does he realy consider to abandon the game after 4 months?

It worries me too.

 

[Hlextor]

I can’t understand the discussion about L&P monthly income. I would get the point for all pledger. Yes, it could be annoying for them, not to get a monthly update. They pay him a monthly pledge. But definitely not from any person here with no money in theirs pocket

 

[armion82]

I can’t understand the discussion about L&P monthly income. I would get the point for all pledger. Yes, it could be annoying for them, not to get an monthly update. They pay him a monthly pledge. But definitely not from any person here with no money in theirs pocket

They should just go for 5$ per month and support more games with the other money.Thanks to DS I can support another 8 devs each one with 5$

It worries me too.

We must be brave and hope for the best.

 

[Radoslaw Wolf]

I can defend the game from the storyline standpoint, its 'slow' progress, the pace of events to happen, etc. I kinda like its realism, expressed zillion times. But missing the release date a few times and then publishing almost no relevant content.. is really hard to explain, even for a great game admirer..
There are currently so many open storyline branches and potential ways of development, that this better was the last 'staging' release and the next one brings some real 'action'. Otherwise, only true butt-licking worshippers will stand by it.

 

[lockerxx]

Teacher storyline" - Event
the start of the emma/sophia or the entire class?
if L&P want help with a web is because the game will be more heavy in incest content.

 

[Hlextor]

Teacher storyline" - Event
the start of the emma/sophia or the entire class?
if L&P want help with a web is because the game will be more heavy in incest content.

I guess teacher-storyline is Dylan‘s badass teacher. And yes, switch to own website means hopefully incest content

 

[farrah]

I guess teacher-storyline is Dylan‘s badass teacher. And yes, switch to own website means hopefully incest content

Be sure. The site for inc. patch/content was planned a long time ago.

 

[Calyps0]

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I was going to say, those renders look nothing like what I remember AWAM looking like in the past!! LOL. I was thinking this update was a MAJOR art overall...or they swapped artists! Cool. I LOVE corruption games from a female protag! Any others I should be turned onto? (pun intended)

 

[Taker Fan]

I guess teacher-storyline is Dylan‘s badass teacher. And yes, switch to own website means hopefully incest content

And with the Teenager (Sam or Emma)

 

[Jag Hond]

Hello to all.
On my own, I just can't realize how L&P could consider to abandon his project.
Proof of that, to me, is his last message on his Patreon page:
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Which main events to expect in the next game days (next to some little side events between of course!):
Day 15 (playable day 8):

Morning:

1) "Dylan/Sophia" - Event (Bikini Deal)

2) "Ellie/Julia/(Elena)" - Event (At the pool)

Noon:

1) "Sophia/Ellie/Patricia" - Event

Evening:

1) "Sophia/Dylan" - Event

2) Another "choosable", alternative Event



Day 16 (playable day 9):

Morning:

1) "Sophia/Dylan/Sam" - Event

2) Start of the actual teacher storyline (Sophia)

Morning/Noon:

1) "Sam" -Event

2) Sophia looks for a second side job (internet)

3) 3rd working day at the nursing home (choosable side job)

Noon/Afternoon:

1) First time at the beach! "Sophia/Dylan" - Event + "Sophia/Carl" - Event

If the "Sophia/Dylan" event takes place, depends on an important decision a few days before!!!

2) Home again. "Sophia/Sam" - Event

Evening:

1) "Sophia/Liam" - Event (you'll meet a new important character)

2) "Sophia/Ellie/Patricia" - Event (Filthy route)

Day 17 (playable day 10):

Morning:

1) "Sophia/Ellie" - Event

2) "Teacher storyline" - Event

3) "After lessons" - Event

Noon:

1) Event which has to do with the new casino character.

2.1) "Sophia/Dylan" - Event

2.2) Or: "Sophia/Amber/Dylan/Sam" - Event

Afternoon:

1) "Sophia/Dylan/Sam" - Event

Afternoon/Evening:

1) Sophia goes to a tanning salon because she had too little time for natural sunbathing

Evening:

1) "Sophia/Mr. Bennett (Dylan's teacher)" - Event

2) "Sophia/Ellie" - Event



Then: I'm thinking of uploading the next game version with unhidden files. Then I can, instead of uploading the whole game, just upload the new image/audio files plus the script. Then you'll need to download max. between maybe around 300 and 500 MB, depending on how many renders there will be in the update, and add/replace them to/with the old ones. Let's look how it will work.

Another thing: I'm starting to look for someone (programmer) who can help me to create a little website, where game versions will also be released soon!

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This, to me, is a proof he is a reliable person, thus well worth to be supported by me as his patreon in future.

Just my one cent, of course.

With best regards,

 

[farrah]

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This, to me, is a proof he is a reliable person, thus well worth to be supported by me as his patreon in future.

Just my one cent, of course.

With best regards,

You should not worry. I already laid out it on the previous page.

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[Jag Hond]

Thanks a lot, but I'm not worried :closedeyesmile:

With best regards,

 

[Jag Hond]

Oh, farrah, just one more thing: I liked your advise... let the dev decide how he will continue his novel.
It's all his hard work, he's paid for doing that, and so on... it's up to him.
And I'm satisfied for all what he's doing. We will see in the future, of course.

With best regards,

 

[farrah]

Thanks a lot, but I'm not worried :closedeyesmile:

With best regards,

I mean, i believe in this guy and find him reliable too.

 

[armion82]

Oh, farrah, just one more thing: I liked your advise... let the dev decide how he will continue his novel.
It's all his hard work, he's paid for doing that, and so on... it's up to him.
And I'm satisfied for all what he's doing. We will see in the future, of course.

With best regards,

I mean, i believe in this guy and find him reliable too.

Any idea if he will drop his studies and will concentrate on the game?

 

[farrah]

Any idea if he will drop his studies and will concentrate on the game?

Let him decide. And let's wait for his answer before you bury everything in advance.

 

[armion82]

Let him decide. And let's wait for his answer before you bury everything in advance.

Well he probably will tell us until the end of the year.