VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[crabboid]

I stopped playing the Dylan route because it feels so wrong. Is not just incest, is the fact that you know Sophia DOESNT want to do it and you still insist and insist and insist. It makes me feel like a fucking rapist and the classical simp who cannot get a no, so I cut that part out. If after years of "NO NO NO NO", you still play it, "maybe" there is something wrong with you. Bennet at least is an inmoral negotiator, "want a favor? do me a favor... I do consider sex negotiable", but Dylan is trying to make her mom do something against herself for his own hedonistic pleasure, he is way worse.

Sam is a bit better, there is some game and chemistry, but situations are a bit ackward.

So I went into the "her with the ladies" searching for other guys, and in this route Sophia doesn't look that bad, BUT, the same mistakes are happening. The author in this S2 started a Sophia bimbofication, unrealistic body, looks too young for her age, etc... And I can get over that, but the worse is the Sophia stupidification.

She has no frame, her 16 years old daughter lectures her on what to do with her life, this concept is so fucking stupid that you might like Ellie, but makes Sophia look REALLY STUPID. She has become a spineless frameless dumb character. The author can only make her play as a victim of everything, everything happens to her, she can't control herself, she is just a permanent victim with no agency, and after a number of updates on this dumb line, I'm loosing respect for the character. She is becoming a vesel with no substance at all, making me gradually disconnect from her. He tries to give her some anecdotal agency at the beggining of episodes, but as always she breaks instantly her frame, so its doubles down on the dumb factor.

Graphics,, meh, the dudes look REALLY BAD, specially Ellie's boyfriend, so many WTF ackward moments. And Sophia is starting to look like botox and implants, A LOT, fake Instagram unrealistic beauty. Those are not the breasts of someone who had breastfeeded two kids, no fucking way she doesn't have implants and a BBL.

Nah, I'm probably disconnecting from AWAM, the direction is lost here in almost every direction and the main character is broken down. I see no other line of events where the main character is a respectable human being to start off.

That’s kind of where I’m at. From the jump, Dylan’s been portrayed as kind of a creep who doesn’t take no for an answer, and constantly preys on his mother and sister. That’s some serial killer stuff, and it just makes any progression with him feel “gross” to me. Sam may be morally gray on the age front, but at least that comes off as more of a puppy love kind of thing, and most of all, they’re not related.

With all this talk about “slow burn”, it will be funny when (if) this game is ever completed to see how when irl time is disregarded, how fast the Parkers actually go from a regular upper-middle class family to a collective of the worst kind of degenerate inbred white trash who would make Jerry Springer blush. My point is that is just seems like a “slow burn” because of the glacial release schedule, and insanely bloated roadmap making it feel like there’s not much happening in the way of progression.

It’s like the Berserk boat ride, but way worse.

 

[cloudstrife]

When will people realise that the teasing is why the game is so popular? If there was pure sex scene after pure sex scene the game would be dead, people deep down like the sexual tension in the game and the buildup of it all is always better than the actual sex in games.

Yeah build up is great, and can be brilliant when done correctly. But there has to be pay off at some point otherwise what is the point? It'd be like watching a porn movie that's just teasing and no sex

 

[BillieKimochi]

One thing for sure : the model "update" for sophia is really weird and was uneccessary

 

[lucathesaint]

Yeah build up is great, and can be brilliant when done correctly. But there has to be pay off at some point otherwise what is the point? It'd be like watching a porn movie that's just teasing and no sex

ALMOST THERE!!

 

[BillieKimochi]

And apparently he's gonna do the side jobs so no AWAM for me for at least 1 year since i have no interest in that. Great ...

 

[Jinsem]

It's a good thing I always read comments first and don't download them straight away, the game started out so well and now you wait and wait and there's really nothing new, then just another Emoji

game is dead already, its not going anywhere other than abandon tag coming up.

 

[przemek998]

Is there any chance that developer will do a step back and revive the old Sophia model? Her new look ruins the whole game for me. She was the hottest MILF of all VNs. Now I hardly recognize her. There is something odd happening with her face. She looked ugly during the animated scene with Ellie. Even her hair colour is worse than at the beginning of the game. I want old Sophia from part 1 back!

 

[Skylaroo]

I feel like this developer doesn't know what to do anymore feeling more and more like he lost control of his own game to his subscribers and is too scared to even commit to a storyline

This game has been problematic since day 1, almost 7 years ago, because the dev had no idea how to manage this project. It started with something like "full 30 in-game days already written from the start to the end" which led to dev unwilling to budge from his vision, especially at the first release overpraise by some people. Making a game based on his vision is fine if it's reasonable, but that doesn't mean that one should just turn a blind eye on any feedback.

My main criticism about the game from back then remained the lack of actual plot. It's basically just Sophia's life (which is now becoming more and more switched to Dylan/Ellie's life too) of her going around doing whatever. There isn't enough hook to last for 30 in-game days because there is no plot. Yet, dev already promised and swore on 30 in-game days. So what we got is just constant random this and that instead of continuation of engaging plot. One update you get about the nursing home if you care, another update you get the neighbor, three updates later then maybe the hairdresser, and so on.

Add to the fact that it has been almost 7 years of development, we do have to wonder whether the game would be old enough to vote in an election before it could finish. Finish what? I have no idea what the end goal of this game at all. Why? Because there is no plot.

 

[KOCAYARAKLI]

Did anybody bang Sophia in last update?

 

[COACHRIDDLA]

Well, not my type of update. How long of a vacation LnP will take? 3-4 weeks?

At this rate he is better off time skipping and focusing on Sophia's story. He can go back later to add the side characters stories as dlc.

Also, get rid of this new face wtf

 

[DHIAFAT]

A lot games by fan completely ended and this one still do 1 short update in year

 

[waltage]

see ya in 2025 for main story

 

[zitadoxoto]

This game will be soon ten years old

10 years of blue balling lmao

 

[Brazzoth]

That’s kind of where I’m at. From the jump, Dylan’s been portrayed as kind of a creep who doesn’t take no for an answer, and constantly preys on his mother and sister. That’s some serial killer stuff, and it just makes any progression with him feel “gross” to me. Sam may be morally gray on the age front, but at least that comes off as more of a puppy love kind of thing, and most of all, they’re not related.

With all this talk about “slow burn”, it will be funny when (if) this game is ever completed to see how when irl time is disregarded, how fast the Parkers actually go from a regular upper-middle class family to a collective of the worst kind of degenerate inbred white trash who would make Jerry Springer blush. My point is that is just seems like a “slow burn” because of the glacial release schedule, and insanely bloated roadmap making it feel like there’s not much happening in the way of progression.

It’s like the Berserk boat ride, but way worse.

Isn't Harley Quinn and that boy in the gray zone too?

I agree on that last part of what you said, but you know high-class does that kind of shit, the only difference in AWAM, is that there's no background of abuse so it makes the story incoherent, because to be in that category, the story have to be really perverted, that's why I was only expecting teasing and not handjobs and cumming or even oral, this doesn't makes sense or it would take some serious desperation and boldness to open up about it and actually do it. Also, to conclude I'm not wishing about the dark path to justify this element, I'm just saying that this is sadly deeprooted in it...

 

[waltage]

This game will be soon ten years old

10 years of blue balling lmao

yes should look to this game one time per year

 

[steama90]

Hi guys, can you help me? In the new update i can't play the sauna scene with Ellie, even if i'm pretty sure i did everything in the first part of the game to do so(club scene, tyler, interest in Ellie etc). Someone can suggest me a way to fix it? I know i can play the scene from the gallery, but i'd like to fix it for the future.

 

[Wbwbd85]

I just want to know what lp is feeling today since the rats still got the update in a 24hr period.

 

[alicesp]

Considering what had happened with Sophia's character in this update, he DESPERATELY NEEDS vacation, long holidays. He had zoomed into a vision of a 28yo dumb bimbo unrealistic Sophia, while trying to make the side characters important, and now is all over the place where nothing makes sense and it makes him look as lost and wandering around with no direction at all.

He connects events, he connects places and characters, but he cannot connect plots and perspectives. The characters are mutating, not developing. The main character is empty and lost acting against her own essence without a single emotion rather than remorse that last 2/3 renders, and side characters are starting to behave like sociopaths instead of respectable humans. This Ellis is unlikeable. This Dylan is unlikeable. This Liam (another fucked up character btw) is also unlikeable.

Is this "The Parkers" or The Simpsons? Maybe The Adam's Family? I don't know, at this point I don't like any of them, not a single one. It's a fully disfunctional family. Dylan will be in jail at 23. Ellie will be a club waitress abused by the 40ish owner. Liam will suicide or escape to RRDD and marry overseas. Sophia will become a cocaine addicted escort agency madame.

 

[red_plumber]

God, it's a mess. And honestly? I don't care anymore. This game and our Sophia are lodged deeply in my limbic system. During game's development I had married, I changed jobs, I moved countries, I've seen glowing peaks of joy and crumbled under stress into darkest depths. Yet Sophia was there all this time: she changed multiple times, like we all do, following illogical and irrational whims. She wanted to appeal to everyone and in the end nobody liked her.

Sophia's character reveals a meta-tragedy of a developer who started with a vision and then lost it, painfully, excruciatengly slowly, over large swathes of time. Their life over the years probably changed dramatically too, yet this one BURDEN of a game still drags behind them like a bloated corpse. The writing doesn't make sense anymore, all routes are compressed and suddenly move at lightning speed (oh, the irony) using the silliest premises, using any premise, really. Game's in-story timeline is just maddening, if you didn't experience its development timeline of months and years of waiting, of living your complicated messy lives.

Sophia emotionally whores herself 300 times a day now, yet blushes at the sight of a cock. Time skips and flash-forwards don't exist anymore either, developer doesn't allow any moments for a breath, for reflection: there is just one singular goal of dragging the corpse further. And further. And then just a little bit more. Anyone unfamiliar with the game who would play it whole in one sitting, will just scratch their eyes out. And in their newly found darkness, they will see it for what it is: broken mess of unfulfilled promises and an ugly monument to sponsors-driven development economy. When you allow audiences to vote with their wallets, it siphons the creator dry, making them a desperate rat pushing levers with heroine water. Making the fucking content. For everyone to enjoy. For everyone to hate. This what happens when you just. don't. allow. things. to. end.

It's day 21 for Sophia. while I got gray hairs already. I will grow older than her soon. I was so happy to see her eat out her little girl in the lockers. Maybe it means that the end will come soon. One day, she will be free of this game. Oh, Sophia, I hope you will.

 

[cgj55311]

Paying attention to this game is really a mistake.