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deluges

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cause he made promises that he can't keep. He said that in the next update everybody will understand why there isn't sexual content and why sophia doesn't undress after almost a year and a half of development. I doubt he can give any convincing reason cause the only one plausible is his greed.
She masturbates in the shower and is naked, so that's factually inaccurate.
 

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this world seem unjust when this teasing game could earn more than 5k a month, in other hand other great title, great graphics, great storyline and have much more content than this can only earn only 1k a month i feel bad to that developer but also i really respect him.

icstor is handled by professionals so don't compare with this game that handled by college student
I'm not going to complain about 5k a month when Summertime Saga is making 50k a month for reasons beyond my comprehension.
 

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When did the dev gave such hints about the playable day 16 and 19?
Because I read every new message in this thread and I never came across such hints.
...because it's from his Patreon post:

"Some of the events within the next 2 playable days are the reason for which I saved the "more sexy scenes" with Sophia yet!"
 

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Yeah i noticed it..But he never mentioned day 16 and 19 right?
Nothing that I could see quoting those specific days. Looking at his dev plans, I'm not sure why it (anticipation, i mean) matters anyway since it looks like every release is just going to entail 1/3 of the day anyway, so, theoretically 2 in-game days could take 6 months to release...
 

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What I have observed from this game.. it's a slow-phase game... but worth to play.. I hope the next update will give me a Thumbs up
 
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When did the dev gave such hints about the playable day 16 and 19?
Because I read every new message in this thread and I never came across such hints.
He mention that after we pass half of the game Sophia will have sex with a woman.Well with 30 playable days,pass the middle is day 16.
For the man it was in one of his comment from last month/probably deleted/.Day 19/playable day/
 

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well will this new update come in 10 days ? or we must wait more ? I honestly love to see sam's story with sophia :D
He have 2 more events to do,one of them small.After that he probably will check for bugs.Probably will need around 10 days or a little more if there is some problems.
 

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I'm not going to complain about 5k a month when Summertime Saga is making 50k a month for reasons beyond my comprehension.
To @deluges:
you're the first person who, in my view, complained of this miserable moan about the income of L & P. Thank you(y)
We live in a free market economy and not in communism (I have more than 20 years of "real existing communism" behind me - please never again).
If someone has something for what others want to spend money - congratulations and respect. Anyone who complains about it is only mad at himself (because he did not have that idea, not the talent, not the success ...).
Let's write about AWAM, not about the money!
 

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To @deluges:
you're the first person who, in my view, complained of this miserable moan about the income of L & P. Thank you(y)
We live in a free market economy and not in communism (I have more than 20 years of "real existing communism" behind me - please never again).
If someone has something for what others want to spend money - congratulations and respect. Anyone who complains about it is only mad at himself (because he did not have that idea, not the talent, not the success ...).
Let's write about AWAM, not about the money!
Exactly! I think what gets people is that they don't feel like their money is being "used" properly, i.e. not being updated enough or with the content they want to see... or they feel like they're entitled to something because they paid money, which isn't how being a Patreon works. You're paying to support the project. If things aren't moving along steadily enough for someone, they should just stop supporting it if they feel so strongly about it.
 

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Exactly! I think what gets people is that they don't feel like their money is being "used" properly, i.e. not being updated enough or with the content they want to see... or they feel like they're entitled to something because they paid money, which isn't how being a Patreon works. You're paying to support the project. If things aren't moving along steadily enough for someone, they should just stop supporting it if they feel so strongly about it.
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Yes, but I have the feeling that most hate comments are from non-supporters. And I think that's unfair. If a sponsor is dissatisfied, he can deal with the developer and then decide what to do next ...
I like AWAM. The story is not new, but completely different in structure than in similar games. It becomes difficult for the developer to tell every decision in the game in a separate branch of the story and then not to lose himself, but to return to the main path. And then also the expectations of the possible players to anticipate or implement ....
 
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this world seem unjust when this teasing game could earn more than 5k a month, in other hand other great title, great graphics, great storyline and have much more content than this can only earn only 1k a month i feel bad to that developer but also i really respect him.

icstor is handled by professionals so don't compare with this game that handled by college student
He's every bit of a professional with how he kept our interest for the game untainted so far. Except the update delaying part! He so need a partner or he'll break the fanbase.
 
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He's every bit of a professional with how he kept our interest for the game untainted so far. Except the update delaying part! He so need a partner or he'll break the fanbase.
...I agree, but he definitely needs more money to do so. Theoretically we'd like this person to treat making the game like a full-time job, but 5k between two people, and I'm sure the split wouldn't be 50/50, that wouldn't cut it, so I think his monetary goals make sense... though I'd never advocate L&P dropping out of college to make sex games... but to each their own!
 
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maybe it would be better to let L&P explain his attitude by himself rather than speculate instead of him. unless you are his mandated lawyer.
I'm not his lawyer nor his defender. no one is perfect, and those posts he wrote and then deleted were better not written in the first place. But in the first days of the last release he got so much hatred and negative feedback, most if not all of it from non patrons, and I guess it made a bad effect on him...
Anyway, I really love this game, thats why I'm paying for it, and that's the reason I'm writing here. There are many games that made me feel like I wasted my time playing them, but I never felt that it's my duty to throw shit on their dev's in their dedicated threads, mostly because I know that there are some people who really like these games. Everybody has their right to like whatever they like, but here there were people wishing loudly this game to be abandoned or this dev to lose all his patrons. Real haters that wished for l@p failure, before his long controversial post.
and no, I didn't like his answer to the haters...
 

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I'm not his lawyer nor his defender. no one is perfect, and those posts he wrote and then deleted were better not written in the first place. But in the first days of the last release he got so much hatred and negative feedback, most if not all of it from non patrons, and I guess it made a bad effect on him...
Anyway, I really love this game, thats why I'm paying for it, and that's the reason I'm writing here. There are many games that made me feel like I wasted my time playing them, but I never felt that it's my duty to throw shit on their dev's in their dedicated threads, mostly because I know that there are some people who really like these games. Everybody has their right to like whatever they like, but here there were people wishing loudly this game to be abandoned or this dev to lose all his patrons. Real haters that wished for l@p failure, before his long controversial post.
and no, I didn't like his answer to the haters...
Having a dev who's active on here is a double-edged sword; they can be really helpful but they can also become frustrated or make changes to a game to appease the vocal minority, which really sucks. It'd be better if they just focused on what they did and answered to their Patreons and just let us fight amongst ourselves here, ha.
 

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Yes, but I have the feeling that most hate comments are from non-supporters. And I think that's unfair. If a sponsor is dissatisfied, he can deal with the developer and then decide what to do next ...
I like AWAM. The story is not new, but completely different in structure than in similar games. It becomes difficult for the developer to tell every decision in the game in a separate branch of the story and then not to lose himself, but to return to the main path. And then also the expectations of the possible players to anticipate or implement ....
I think most of his critics don't hate his work. At least I'd like to see what happens next.

It's just a pity that his story doesn't really go on, because he strangles it with more and more side stories and trivialities. The last update was just one more example of this. Instead of taking the opportunity and continiue the story with the two female masurians (he took a lot of effort to introduce some day before), he came up with even more characters (five more guys this time). There wasn't really any development this time either. Rather the daughter has got her third love interrest which will lead to even more delay in the future.

Tragic, however, was his preview image of the school at night, because almost everybody thought about how the school story would go on. Finally a progress in something and a real reaction of the MC. But no, Now we have the third guy in school who kind of forced himself on her. All in a setting that doesn't seem realistic at all.

Well, if it's one thing the author needs, it's constructive criticism. It is important in a project to seriously reflect on the progress and to make adjustments if necessary. Why not just drop one or two of the side stories? Does she really Need to have two side jobs at once? Does there really have to be so many LI in the story of the MC?

I really hope the author makes the story a little flatter. Gladly with the same depth of detail, but better concentrated on the essential.
 

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I think most of his critics don't hate his work. At least I'd like to see what happens next.

It's just a pity that his story doesn't really go on, because he strangles it with more and more side stories and trivialities. The last update was just one more example of this. Instead of taking the opportunity and continiue the story with the two female masurians (he took a lot of effort to introduce some day before), he came up with even more characters (five more guys this time). There wasn't really any development this time either. Rather the daughter has got her third love interrest which will lead to even more delay in the future.

Tragic, however, was his preview image of the school at night, because almost everybody thought about how the school story would go on. Finally a progress in something and a real reaction of the MC. But no, Now we have the third guy in school who kind of forced himself on her. All in a setting that doesn't seem realistic at all.

Well, if it's one thing the author needs, it's constructive criticism. It is important in a project to seriously reflect on the progress and to make adjustments if necessary. Why not just drop one or two of the side stories? Does she really Need to have two side jobs at once? Does there really have to be so many LI in the story of the MC?

I really hope the author makes the story a little flatter. Gladly with the same depth of detail, but better concentrated on the essential.
That's fair and there's always ways to introduce new characters, without having to actually introduce them. A casual mention here and there, but pursue the main four or five (jeez) storylines to a satisfying place and then maybe do some more world-building or whatever, so it doesn't just feel like obstructions for the sake of it.
 
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I like the idea of this game with the slow burn but the only criticism is the amount of time between updates its like 4-6 weeks per half a day update... i think he could have waited until a bit deeper in the story to introduce some characters
 

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I think most of his critics don't hate his work. At least I'd like to see what happens next.

It's just a pity that his story doesn't really go on, because he strangles it with more and more side stories and trivialities. The last update was just one more example of this. Instead of taking the opportunity and continiue the story with the two female masurians (he took a lot of effort to introduce some day before), he came up with even more characters (five more guys this time). There wasn't really any development this time either. Rather the daughter has got her third love interrest which will lead to even more delay in the future.

Tragic, however, was his preview image of the school at night, because almost everybody thought about how the school story would go on. Finally a progress in something and a real reaction of the MC. But no, Now we have the third guy in school who kind of forced himself on her. All in a setting that doesn't seem realistic at all.

Well, if it's one thing the author needs, it's constructive criticism. It is important in a project to seriously reflect on the progress and to make adjustments if necessary. Why not just drop one or two of the side stories? Does she really Need to have two side jobs at once? Does there really have to be so many LI in the story of the MC?

I really hope the author makes the story a little flatter. Gladly with the same depth of detail, but better concentrated on the essential.
That's fair and there's always ways to introduce new characters, without having to actually introduce them. A casual mention here and there, but pursue the main four or five (jeez) storylines to a satisfying place and then maybe do some more world-building or whatever, so it doesn't just feel like obstructions for the sake of it.
Don't forget that next update we will get even more new characters because of the second side job.More distractions,damn.
I still can't get it how every thing alive is into Sophia.Like realy only Liam is blind.
Hell in JOHN the only ones that have hots for Jessica from the first time we saw them,are the neighbors-Heather and Christian.And her BF Conner of course:)
For all others in the game we have to actualy seduce them:)
 

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Don't forget that next update we will get even more new characters because of the second side job.More distractions,damn.
I still can't get it how every thing alive is into Sophia.Like realy only Liam is blind.
Hell in JOHN the only ones that have hots for Jessica from the first time we saw them,are the neighbors-Heather and Christian.And her BF Conner of course:)
For all others in the game we have to actualy seduce them:)
That's the problem with a lot of (female protagonist) corruption games, they're unbalanced. While I enjoy the creeps, there's too many creeps (Bush Tetras, great song)! There should be some genuinely decent men and women in these games who aren't just looking to corrupt or take advantage of your character.
 
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