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roro

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I do think the lack of sexual content is a big factor. Look, I would be ok with waiting 2 months for an update if that update had some action. Yes, I will agree the slow updates is hands down the biggest problem, but the lack of sexual content is a close second.

I have been a supporter of this game since day 1. Its story and the characters are like nothing else out there. I have always said I think the dev is in over his head. And bringing on more people to help, or just turning the game over and letting fans finish it from here would be the best option.
No one stops you or other fans from continue this game. It's not patented or password locked...
If you wish the dev stops updating the game then what are you (and all other haters) doing here?!?
 

goobdoob

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No one stops you or other fans from continue this game. It's not patented or password locked...
If you wish the dev stops updating the game then what are you (and all other haters) doing here?!?
Just expect to get sued for copyright infringement if you make any money off of it.
 

Nottravis

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There is a lot to like about this game, and heavens knows decent fem protag games are rarer than hens teeth.

I just don't see why in his third point he had to be so rude to his own supporters, players of adult games generally and other developers. He doesn't have a monopoly on quality renders or complex storylines. It seemed a cheap and unnecessary broadside.

Still, I hope he can get it together. This game still has a great deal of potential.
 

lockerxx

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L&P is like a movie director the studio give him notes and he refuses because he has his vision for it then the movie flop in the box office.years later gain cult status.
is a shame that finally the good part of game is going to start he thinks in quit the game.if the next upgrades have more scenes like the samXsophia pool scene give a try for a until day 10.
 

armion82

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L&P is like a movie director the studio give him notes and he refuses because he has his vision for it then the movie flop in the box office.years later gain cult status.
is a shame that finally the good part of game is going to start he thinks in quit the game.if the next upgrades have more scenes like the samXsophia pool scene give a try for a until day 10.
Trust me,we don't want cult status,there are BB and Dual Family both abandoned.
 

roro

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Just expect to get sued for copyright infringement if you make any money off of it.
And if it's abandoned you wouldn't get sued?
Some people just need to grow up. Why ruin this game for those who like it? I understand constructive criticism, but wishing the game to be abandoned? that's just childish imo...
 

XaGnard

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This will surprise you but not everyone is into little Hobbits.
That's the problem with this game. The author doesn't try to tell a story. He tries to tell as many stories as possible:

  • Lesbian LI for MC: Football mom, Cleaning help, Girl trainer at the gym, Massage lady, …
  • Guys who blackmail her: Son's teacher, Son's classmate, school janitor, …
  • Students with an interest in her: Son, Sons friend, Son's classmate, Two art students, …
  • Then we have the two old guys in the nursing home,
  • The guy trainer in the gym,
  • The guys in the Sauna,
  • The neighbor (also with some harassing),
  • The Hobos,
  • The director of the School (also with some harassing),
  • … I'm sure I forgot someone else …
  • ah, of course, her husband … ;)
All these are just the stories of the MC. If you look at the supporting actors you can easy double the list. All stories have one thing in common. They all have all just begun.

Sure, not everyone has the same interests, but if there are too many stories, not a single one of them really finds time to be told and we all have lost. This game needs focus. Not on just on one single story, but not on all of them either.

In my opinion, the "good wife" story makes the least sense to continue, because it is just Kind of an anti story. It is the story about what would happen, if everything is boring. The whole thing's just slowing everything else down and really not doing anything usefull.
 

Blockout

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Yeah, done quietly. Like postman, Liam' boss for now, Carl ... why not. But if any of this had a chance to blackmail her?. would they?.
Liams Boss has a higher chance of blackmailing her than some student at school.

It's simply not realistic.


And, said you are german, why "TATORT" last so long? cuz of crime.
No because they produce new episodes.



That's the problem with this game. The author doesn't try to tell a story. He tries to tell as many stories as possible:

  • Lesbian LI for MC: Football mom, Cleaning help, Trainer at the gym, Massage lady, …
  • Guys who blackmail her: Son's teacher, Son's classmate, school janitor, …
  • Students with an interest in her: Son, Sons friend, Son's classmate, Two art students, …
  • Then we have the two old guys in the nursing home,
  • The neighbor (also with some harassing),
  • … I'm sure I forgot someone else …
  • ah, of course, her husband … ;)
All these are just the stories of the MC. If you look at the supporting actors you can easy double the list. All stories have one thing in common. They all have all just begun.

Sure, not everyone has the same interests, but if there are too many stories, not a single one of them really finds time to be told and we all have lost. This game needs focus. Not on just on one single story, but not on all of them either.

In my opinion, the "good wife" story makes the least sense to continue, because it is just Kind of an anti story. It is the story about what would happen, if everything is boring. The whole thing's just slowing everything else down and really not doing anything usefull.
Did you seriously just say that you can't have erotic or sexual moments on a Good wife part?
Do you realise that would mean that no actual relationship unless it is based in cheating, ransom or rape can have erotic and sexual moments?


I wrote this like a year ago but here I go again...

Good Wife Route: Liam is stressed out at work, doesn't cheat and is generally just burned out.
This frustrates Sophia but not enough to cheat on him.
What could possibly happen from this situation?

- she could spice things up on her own, new lingerie, perhaps a small weekend with Liam, having a nice time and sex <- In case you are wondering, this is the norm in real life

- she could have a Bi-curious tendency, now she's doing another woman in front of Liam who the first time just watches, the next time he might join <- Also happens in real life

- after perhaps a threesome with a woman they might be more open about other people, this is where the swinging starts <- The developer lives in Germany, swinging exists here, these clubs are never that far away

That sure as hell doesn't look that boring to me.

Sure she isn't blackmailed, her son isn't trying to fuck her (which is still the most unrealistic theme about this game), the neighbours son isn't trying to seduce her (lmao a minor seducing a late 30s early 40s woman) and not everyone wants to fuck her.
But you want to know what it is? Realistic and a way to make a Good Wife route with erotic and sexual content.
 

Taker Fan

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the neighbours son isn't trying to seduce her (lmao a minor seducing a late 30s early 40s woman)
Well, there has been some movies about that. But Sam is in love with her you can feel that or see that. And in the last update, she feels attracted to him. And she will seduce him. She teased him at the pool and in the morning. Her son was like collateral Damage. It is a little bit like the movie Dreng.

L&P is like a movie director the studio give him notes and he refuses because he has his vision for it then the movie flop in the box office.years later gain cult status.
is a shame that finally the good part of game is going to start he thinks in quit the game.if the next upgrades have more scenes like the samXsophia pool scene give a try for a until day 10.
It is more like an Independent Film;).

Let's hope he continue the game.And not with the stupid idea of episodes for some of the cahracters.
But he realy need to lower his expectations.Money won't fall from the sky.That didn't happen march 2018.Now march 2019,won't happen either.
And he must realise that of course he is not getting bigger support not only because of the lack of sex/even with husband on good wife path.Seriously what is the point to be a good wife if you get 1 BJ for 16 months and nothing more?/The way he release the updates with longer and longer period between updates is what will be the thing that will end the game.And no the answer is not to split each playable day on 3 or even 4/
I agree with you!
 

Angmir

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People dont panic !

I guess the author just is frustrated with people always complaining about anything he does.
He makes no progress towards H-scenes - nothing is happening.
He makes a plot that leads to many future H-scenes - even worse.

I doubt that he will quit working on the game.
He has invested A LOT of his own time to this project allready, so it would be stupid to just let it go.
Making mini-stories instead will lead to nowhere too.

He might say otherwise but the ammount of $$ he is making right now should be reason enough for him to stay, and there is no way that dropping the game will let him make more. Half of his fanbase would leave him right away, and his reputation would be ruined.

He is inteligent guy so he will figure this out.

He certainly wont intimidate anyone into supporting him out of fear that he is quitting. So that was a bit silly move of him.
All he needs to do is be patient and stick to his plan, regardless what people say. That drama was unneccessery.
 

armion82

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People dont panic !

I guess the author just is frustrated with people always complaining about anything he does.
He makes no progress towards H-scenes - nothing is happening.
He makes a plot that leads to many future H-scenes - even worse.

I doubt that he will quit working on the game.
He has invested A LOT of his own time to this project allready, so it would be stupid to just let it go.
Making mini-stories instead will lead to nowhere too.

He might say otherwise but the ammount of $$ he is making right now should be reason enough for him to stay, and there is no way that dropping the game will let him make more. Half of his fanbase would leave him right away, and his reputation would be ruined.

He is inteligent guy so he will figure this out.

He certainly wont intimidate anyone into supporting him out of fear that he is quitting. So that was a bit silly move of him.
All he needs to do is be patient and stick to his plan, regardless what people say. That drama was unneccessery.
You realise that he don't stick to the plan,right?The plan was to finish the game in 3 and a half-4 years.That won't happen no matter what he said.Last update takes 50 days for 2 big events,1 small and 2 miniatures with 3-4 renders.Next one is 4 big events and no it won't take 35 days like someone was dreaming here:(With so many stories around the updates will start to be more complex-more time to make it.Pretty soon it will take 60 days,then 70 or even more for half day.The answer is not to split the days in 3 or 4 parts.He realy need to think to get some help with renders par example.It's damn obvious he just don't have enough time to work on the game.RL,studies,family etc.We get it.But to insist that nobody is capable to help you?That is too arrogant.
We are worry because we saw plenty of examples when devs abandon their game because they don't get enough money.BTW if he realy do that this will be one of the game with biggest support to be abandoned.Usualy so far the game with around and less than 1000$ get axed.
 

satoshi36

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I dunno if you know but you can read the comments on his last post on patreon and boy there are some spicy ones...
 

Angmir

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I dunno if you know but you can read the comments on his last post on patreon and boy there are some spicy ones...
I NEVER seen so many replyies to any Patreon post.

You can literaly spend a whole day just reading through them all, and they keep comming.

If that doesnt show how many people are DEEPLY intrested into this game, then nothing does.
 

Julius Ash

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he is earning almost 5k...just 4k less than my wage:love: but for sure more than a average payroll..a good reason to continue his job...
 

Angmir

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You realise that he don't stick to the plan,right?The plan was to finish the game in 3 and a half-4 years.That won't happen no matter what he said.Last update takes 50 days for 2 big events,1 small and 2 miniatures with 3-4 renders.Next one is 4 big events and no it won't take 35 days like someone was dreaming here:(With so many stories around the updates will start to be more complex-more time to make it.Pretty soon it will take 60 days,then 70 or even more for half day.The answer is not to split the days in 3 or 4 parts.He realy need to think to get some help with renders par example.It's damn obvious he just don't have enough time to work on the game.RL,studies,family etc.We get it.But to insist that nobody is capable to help you?That is too arrogant.
We are worry because we saw plenty of examples when devs abandon their game because they don't get enough money.BTW if he realy do that this will be one of the game with biggest support to be abandoned.Usualy so far the game with around and less than 1000$ get axed.
Artistic and Story plans and game development schedue are 2 diffrent things.

Ofc he cant keep up with development. All project are like that, you loose some of the enthusisasm as you go about the project longer.
I share your concerns about the game becoming to big, to spread for its own good, with too many plotlines and choices, I allready noticed that problem in first 2 releases. And I warned him from making too many story spliting events.

How he will handle it in the end is uncertain, but it will become compleatly unsustainable at some point if he tries to go into compleatly branching storylines. So I expect him to do what every other branching game dev did before. Make the big choices in the end meaningless - still leading to the same core story with just blocking access to some scenes if you made one choice or another.
And it is allready happening. Like for the people that didnt go far into Sam storyline, they only got like a half update this time arround.
I suspect it will continue this way.
 
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