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VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

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GingerSweetGirl said:
I'm choosing to be positive. Yeah, it's a huge leap, but not everything in a game (or in real life) needs to follow a steady, ponderous, progression. In fact, part of why LP and the game are in this long-running limbo is because he's been so concerned with incremental progression. Sometimes things just happen, sometimes the dam bursts suddenly when it was only a minor crack a short time before.

Considering the subject material, I think we're better off ripping the band-aid off. Objectively, none of this makes sense if Sophia has time to stop and think about it. In real life this would never happen. And while I think everyone here likes the idea of AWAM being a "grounded" game, the fact is that the material limits how grounded it can be. We're up against it at this point, either things need to continue at their glacial pace, or they need to happen quickly. IMO, it makes more sense to me that Sophia's defenses and resistance would collapse suddenly as opposed to gradually. To keep using the dam metaphor, the cracks have already formed and now they need to give way quickly. Getting her over the hump, beyond the point of no return, is what the story needs. I mean, it's already happened, but let's put that aside for right now (you can't jerk Dylan off and still go back to normal). If this can FINALLY be the moment that her resistance collapses and she embraces her corruption in a dramatic way, the game will be better off for it.

To mix my metaphors, I think it's a little like being a drug addict. You do it once or twice and you're fine, but those are cracks in your sobriety. But at some point you do it and you wake up the next day needing it. Sophia has dabbled in this before, but at some point it needs to grab hold of her and not let go. She's dabbling more than ever in this taboo, and it makes sense to me that she would overdo it this time. That's fine, and I think it makes for a better story and game. My bigger fear is that she immediately regresses back to where she was at the start of the day. That's the bigger sin; and one that the game has used too much. LP needs to let her take the big swing and, like the drug addict, this time she wakes up wanting more.
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Don't get your hopes up. It's still LP. It's possible it's winds up all sizzle and no steak
 
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GingerSweetGirl said:
I'm choosing to be positive. Yeah, it's a huge leap, but not everything in a game (or in real life) needs to follow a steady, ponderous, progression. In fact, part of why LP and the game are in this long-running limbo is because he's been so concerned with incremental progression. Sometimes things just happen, sometimes the dam bursts suddenly when it was only a minor crack a short time before.

Considering the subject material, I think we're better off ripping the band-aid off. Objectively, none of this makes sense if Sophia has time to stop and think about it. In real life this would never happen. And while I think everyone here likes the idea of AWAM being a "grounded" game, the fact is that the material limits how grounded it can be. We're up against it at this point, either things need to continue at their glacial pace, or they need to happen quickly. IMO, it makes more sense to me that Sophia's defenses and resistance would collapse suddenly as opposed to gradually. To keep using the dam metaphor, the cracks have already formed and now they need to give way quickly. Getting her over the hump, beyond the point of no return, is what the story needs. I mean, it's already happened, but let's put that aside for right now (you can't jerk Dylan off and still go back to normal). If this can FINALLY be the moment that her resistance collapses and she embraces her corruption in a dramatic way, the game will be better off for it.

To mix my metaphors, I think it's a little like being a drug addict. You do it once or twice and you're fine, but those are cracks in your sobriety. But at some point you do it and you wake up the next day needing it. Sophia has dabbled in this before, but at some point it needs to grab hold of her and not let go. She's dabbling more than ever in this taboo, and it makes sense to me that she would overdo it this time. That's fine, and I think it makes for a better story and game. My bigger fear is that she immediately regresses back to where she was at the start of the day. That's the bigger sin; and one that the game has used too much. LP needs to let her take the big swing and, like the drug addict, this time she wakes up wanting more.
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Problem with the way L&P portrays Sophia's corruption is that he's made it a rollercoaster with ups and downs (which that's fine) but it always ends up at the starting line after a short ride. Rinse and repeat. Been that way since...well, basically 8 years. He's clinging to his '1 step forward, 1 step back, 2 steps forward, 2 steps back, 3 steps forward, 3 steps back..' approach. Like bigdickwaterland said, Sophia basically resets to factory settings everytime something happened. Her brain left her body years ago.

That's what makes the leaps unbelievably stupid IMO. Every goddamn PD you get these monologues from Sophia about how whatever she's done has to stop, how she doesn't want it, how it's so wrong, 'I'm a married woman and a mother'...blah blah blah. This behavior is continuously getting more ridiculous seeing how PD13+14 went on overdrive. It's wrong -> Handjob -> It's gotta stop -> Eating her daughter out -> What have I done -> More handjobs -> factory reset -> bukkake with children...

Having doubts is normal and like you said things don't always ramp up in a steady line, but in this case it never leaves any marks. Nothing stays with her. From 0 to 100 and back to 0. How many handjobs, blowjobs, bukkake's and incestuous events can a woman participate in in a single day and then act like nothing's ever happened? That's what L&P is doing and he has to stop it if he wants some type of believable progression in Sophia's corruption. Then again, I didn't play the game for a year and all my info's come from teasers and other people's comments regarding the game so anyone feel free to let me know if something's changed.
 
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palmtrees89 said:
Problem with the way L&P portrays Sophia's corruption is that he's made it a rollercoaster with ups and downs (which that's fine) but it always ends up at the starting line after a short ride. Rinse and repeat. Been that way since...well, basically 8 years. He's clinging to his '1 step forward, 1 step back, 2 steps forward, 2 steps back, 3 steps forward, 3 steps back..' approach. Like bigdickwaterland said, Sophia basically resets to factory settings everytime something happened. Her brain left her body years ago.

That's what makes the leaps unbelievably stupid IMO. Every goddamn PD you get these monologues from Sophia about how whatever she's done has to stop, how she doesn't want it, how it's so wrong, 'I'm a married woman and a mother'...blah blah blah. This behavior is continuously getting more ridiculous seeing how PD13+14 went on overdrive. It's wrong -> Handjob -> It's gotta stop -> Eating her daughter out -> What have I done -> More handjobs -> factory reset -> bukkake with children...

Having doubts is normal and like you said things don't always ramp up in a steady line, but in this case it never leaves any marks. Nothing stays with her. From 0 to 100 and back to 0. How many handjobs, blowjobs, bukkake's and incestuous events can a woman participate in in a single day and then act like nothing's ever happened? That's what L&P is doing and he has to stop it if he wants some type of believable progression in Sophia's corruption. Then again, I didn't play the game for a year and all my info's come from teasers and other people's comments regarding the game so anyone feel free to let me know if something's changed.
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We're on the same page that something has to change, no more "factory resets". I guess I look at these teasers and see for the first time a woman who is leaning into her corruption in a very public/exposed way. Even if they don't get caught, this is different from giving a private handjob. You know that I agree with you that all the other times that it was one step forward, one step back, has gotten old. I guess my (misguided) hope is that this time it might be closer to "two steps forward, only one step back". With this update and the next update supposedly being even "hotter", I'm running out of ways for LP to continually stall meaningful forward progress. Couple this with him openly discussing starting a new game, and I think we're poised for a dam to burst sooner than we think.

I say that, but I know that there's a 99.9% chance I'm wrong.
 
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The developer said that part 3 will also be a cuckold, but it is not clear where it will take place, in the hall in front of the TV while watching the match or what the developer is showing now at dinner is part 3. Who knows, has the match viewing already taken place along the cuckold route, or is there a continuation yet? Or are Sofia's teasings now ending with teasers in the kitchen during dinner? Can someone explain?! Otherwise, it is somehow not clear what is happening there.
 
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I'm disappointed he didn't hit 60%. We are at the end of April and only God knows if he's gonna hit 55% 55% by the end of the day.

Basing myself of what L&P said, the last event is supposed to be the largest of the 5. He took almost one month to complete the 2nd largest event. How much time do you guys think he'll need to complete the BIGGEST event of this build ? I said in a previous post that I expected the update to drop in the second half of june. By the look of things at the moment, I'd add one more month to it. Mid to end of July.

He also said that the 3rd event is super short, that he already started working on it and that it would be over fast. Well, we're still stucked at 55%. Not that I'm complaining, I don't mind waiting, but I'm only stating the facts and repeating what he said himself.

Have a good day BOIS.
 
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The developer said that part 3 will also be a cuckold, but it is not clear where it will take place, in the hall in front of the TV while watching the match or what the developer is showing now at dinner is part 3. Who knows, has the match viewing already taken place along the cuckold route, or is there a continuation yet? Or are Sofia's teasings now ending with teasers in the kitchen during dinner? Can someone explain?! Otherwise, it is somehow not clear what is happening there.
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I would love to know what the percentage of players are playing the Dylan Cuck route?
I’m not even a Dylan fan and I don’t play his Cuck route.
Sophia, you don’t Cuck your son,you Cuck your lousy minute man husband!
 
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I would love to know what the percentage of players are playing the Dylan Cuck route?
I’m not even a Dylan fan and I don’t play his Cuck route.
Sophia, you don’t Cuck your son,you Cuck your lousy minute man husband!
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Count me as a fan of the cDylan route.

For the casual viewers of this thread, I believe even L&P has said that “cuck” may not be the ideal term for these events. They are more of a voyeur theme, with Dylan getting aroused by watching his mom sexually interact with other men. I really enjoyed the Salon scene with Dylan watching the creepy Devon ogling his mom’s exposed breasts. I also liked the last event where Sophia flaunted herself in front of Dylan’s teammates and Dylan had a fantasy of Sophia getting banged by Darnell. I’ll see what happens in the upcoming event.

That doesn’t mean that I prefer this route over the main Dylan/Sophia route. I’ll continue playing both routes.
 
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