VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Holy Bacchus]

Bloody hell Holy Bacchus where have you been hiding

BaDIK thread.

But what do you think? Is this a possible hint that Dylan will be her first for those going down that route? Or will Sophia pop her daughter's cherry with a strap-on?

I like both, but would prefer it to be her brother (even if I still think he's a stupid little shit with a dumbass "plan"). If L&P can perhaps make Dylan a bit less of a horny idiot, it would be nice to see him be the kind of guy that Ellie wants but hasn't had.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

1) why i'm here? i'm just chatting in a forum, comprende?
2) no no no my boy, i never take others job for free! i'm not a thief! i'm an artist myself (musician, not graphic)! i always payed l&p for his work as a patron since the first day of his work, i never ever thinked of about steal his work! and now that you told me: are you paying that dev, considering the way you defend him? if not you're the one that should stfu, not me. and just a thing, just to make it clear: i posted my thoughs in the patron channel too and several posts were simply deleted on purpose! i've always been kind and polite as always but that dev doesn't like those so he deleted those posts instead of talking about it! being uncapable of taking constructive criticism is very bad for an artist: it clearly shows not an open mind and a very poor willpower. only after the last update i turned off my patreon account with l&p, obviously i'll never download next update unless it's worth it and before i'll reopen my patreon account with him.
3) once and for all: if you can enjoy this vn it's was just for the help the patreons gave to him and me also in my little helped him in his project from the beginning of his work, so never try to tell me to stfu; apart from that everybody (if polite and kind) can talk about it, not only the people who like it. paline and simple.

I was also a Patreon and I still am. I accept that this is L&P's creation. I can and do offer constructive criticism and feedback as one of more than 1,000 Patreons and I have never had him delete one of my posts barring the accidental family relationship post which Patreon has a problem with - and that error is on me.

I don't tell people to stfu - nor did I say that to you (you might need a better English to ? translator since your response shows that this one does not seem to accurately convert my English into your native language if that was your take away from my short comment).

I simply asked why, if you are here to complain about how bad something is, why wouldn't you find something better to do with your valuable time?

?Comprende?

 

[Old Dog]

Very funny! Not everyone have time to replay the game or remember everything of previous update 5 months ago! If I'm correct, Aiden said that he will call/sms Sophia with 3-rd task. But if he assign it yet or not...I simply don't remember.

Glad you enjoyed the fun.
We don't know when he will assign it, some say on the same day some think its the next day.

 

[Old Dog]

BaDIK thread.

But what do you think? Is this a possible hint that Dylan will be her first for those going down that route? Or will Sophia pop her daughter's cherry with a strap-on?

I like both, but would prefer it to be her brother (even if I still think he's a stupid little shit with a dumbass "plan"). If L&P can perhaps make Dylan a bit less of a horny idiot, it would be nice to see him be the kind of guy that Ellie wants but hasn't had.

lol you made me chuckle there.
Females Alyssa has a good chance but Ellie has made some great advances with her mother.
The (young)males, I don't see any of them getting near Sophia at the moment.
The ladies have a much better chance

 

[Mamonetti]

Well to fair it is a great game

And Joyce is one of the hottest milfs I've seen in an adult game

 

[Old Dog]

And Joyce is one of the hottest milfs I've seen in an adult game

She certainly is

 

[Holy Bacchus]

lol you made me chuckle there.Sophia has more of a draw towards Ellie just now so I would say Ellie.Outside chance of Julia/Alyssa/Nat.

Sophia and Ellie are certainly much further along, yes, but we do have that side story with Dylan and Ellie which might bring them a little closer. Ellie says that, "all my previous boyfriends were either too crude or too clumsy", so Dylan just has to not be those things. He sort of is already, but if L&P can dial that back a bit, not make him do any more stupid shit like with the Aiden debacle, perhaps he prove himself better in Ellie's eyes and he could even become what she's looking for in a guy, and given that she seems a very open girl who has no qualms doing sexual things with her mother, it's not too much of a stretch that she may think the same of Dylan should their relationship improve and he "mans up".

I just don't think that that revelation about her virginity was thrown in there for no reason. The conversation further divulges that Logan is pressuring her and Sophia is trying to convince her that Logan isn't right for her if he's doing this, so perhaps it will lead to her not doing with it Logan and breaking up with him because of the doubts and this was the point; to save her virginity for either Sophia or Dylan on this path.

 

[Old Dog]

Sophia and Ellie are certainly much further along, yes, but we do have that side story with Dylan and Ellie which might bring them a little closer. Ellie says that, "all my previous boyfriends were either too crude or too clumsy", so Dylan just has to not be those things. He sort of is already, but if L&P can dial that back a bit, not make him do any more stupid shit like with the Aiden debacle, perhaps he prove himself better in Ellie's eyes and he could even become what she's looking for in a guy, and given that she seems a very open girl who has no qualms doing sexual things with her mother, it's not too much of a stretch that she may think the same of Dylan should their relationship improve and he "mans up".

I just don't think that that revelation about her virginity was thrown in there for no reason. The conversation further divulges that Logan is pressuring her and Sophia is trying to convince her that Logan isn't right for her if he's doing this, so perhaps it will lead to her not doing with it Logan and breaking up with him because of the doubts and this was the point; to save her virginity for either Sophia or Dylan on this path.

I agree with you and also remember that the Logan/Ellie line will split into 3 and somehow Sophia is involved so perhaps Logan does pressure Ellie into having sex or Ellie lets slip that she is a virgin and Logan tells everybody.
A lobotomy would probably help the brother to be not so crude or too clumsy in his approach or a baseball ball to the head may knock some sense into him,as 90%of the time he has not got a clue stumbles blindly a round.

 

[Sendtoakog]

Blueballs/10

 

[Old Dog]

Blueballs/10

Only if somebody hits them with a metal baseball bat

 

[Alley_Cat]

Alley Cat,

I use the walkthrough provided by L&P.

I've ended up with a variety of saves (Dylan yes/no boarding school; Sophia 1st/2nd side job; Sophia with Ellie and Julia at the pool + yoga/Alyssa; I will eventually do the good wife route).

I never saw the need for a separate Dylan/Sam walkthrough but others may want only that.

Thanks for your response. And for not dismissing my question just because "I don't like Dylan". Is there a canon Dylan route?

So now we just need someone who plays the Sam route to speak up.

Nice... let's take something from Day 1 and show 0 growth of Dylan as a character.

There are associated Ellie pictures from the car ride to the Parkers' new house that, taken out of context, could be used to say that Ellie is immature.

Instead, since she is the older child, you would think that she is more mature.

Here is Ellie showing that 'maturity' in the render just before Dylan's response above' - which - shocking - prompted a response from her younger brother.

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So, maybe siblings fight and both can and do act in an immature fashion.

Frankly - where I come from, the oldest child, especially someone who is 6 months away from college, is expected to show maturity and not start fights - but that is just me I suppose...

I'd forgotten about "garden gnome". Cheers, I'll add that to the list.

BaDIK thread.

But what do you think? Is this a possible hint that Dylan will be her first for those going down that route? Or will Sophia pop her daughter's cherry with a strap-on?

I like both, but would prefer it to be her brother (even if I still think he's a stupid little shit with a dumbass "plan"). If L&P can perhaps make Dylan a bit less of a horny idiot, it would be nice to see him be the kind of guy that Ellie wants but hasn't had.

Considering Ellie is too afraid to use her dildo, what makes you think her first time will be with a dick, real or not?

 

[Old Dog]

Thanks for your response. And for not dismissing my question just because "I don't like Dylan". Is there a canon Dylan route?

So now we just need someone who plays the Sam route to speak up.

I'd forgotten about "garden gnome". Cheers, I'll add that to the list.

Considering Ellie is too afraid to use her dildo, what makes you think her first time will be with a dick, real or not?

The "garden gnome" I like that one

 

[Kodek]

Nice... let's take something from Day 1 and show 0 growth of Dylan as a character.

There are associated Ellie pictures from the car ride to the Parkers' new house that, taken out of context, could be used to say that Ellie is immature.

Instead, since she is the older child, you would think that she is more mature.

Here is Ellie showing that 'maturity' in the render just before Dylan's response above' - which - shocking - prompted a response from her younger brother.

View attachment 973984

So, maybe siblings fight and both can and do act in an immature fashion.

Frankly - where I come from, the oldest child, especially someone who is 6 months away from college, is expected to show maturity and not start fights - but that is just me I suppose...

From where i come, they wouldn't really dislike each other and would mostly taunt themselves out of fun or just ignore each other most of the time.

It would feel better seeing the interactions above, it feels more realistic than both Ellie and Dylan overreacting over some silly nickname.

 

[Mamonetti]

I also believe that Ellie will lose her virginity with either Sophia (using a dildo.. a strap-on looks too much for two newcomers in the lesbian world) or Dylan (if the event when he fixed her computer was really the beginning of the path that will take them to the double incest we mentioned a few days ago, and it would require an active/leading role of Sophia there).

 

[Alley_Cat]

From where i come, they wouldn't really dislike each other and would mostly taunt themselves out of fun or just ignore each other most of the time.

It would feel better seeing the interactions above, it feels more realistic than both Ellie and Dylan overreacting over some silly nickname.

Only if they were just teasing each other. But if that were the case, then it doesn't explain why in some cases still, Ellie shows her dislike for Dylan when talking to Sophia. While it's only for the boarding school route, in the last update Ellie specifically comments on how she's enjoying the peace and quiet with Dylan not being around.

That's why I still believe that the bonus storyline isn't about setting Dylan up with Ellie, but explaining what he did that was so abhorrent for her to dislike him so much. And that her going to him to fix her computer is just to show that by showing a little skin, how desperate he is and how easily someone can manipulate him.

 

[Kodek]

BaDIK thread.

But what do you think? Is this a possible hint that Dylan will be her first for those going down that route? Or will Sophia pop her daughter's cherry with a strap-on?

I like both, but would prefer it to be her brother (even if I still think he's a stupid little shit with a dumbass "plan"). If L&P can perhaps make Dylan a bit less of a horny idiot, it would be nice to see him be the kind of guy that Ellie wants but hasn't had.

The BaDIK thread is as scary as ever. Too many theories all together and most make sense.

Also, i think that in the next Ellie/Dylan event we are probably going to see where it's going, maybe we are going to have options between friendship and romance (I hope).

But i still don't know how that event fit in the game since is some kind of side story yet and should not have too big of an impact on the main story (i don't know L&P comments on that, if someone knows, please kindly tell me~).
If it's indeed not intended to have a big impact, then i think Ellie's vcard is still safe. If it's made to be more impactful, then yes, it's possible to see Dylan getting there and if he matures a little bit in the middle of the event all the better.

And yes, if L&P painted Dylan as he did in the bikini show or the bed breakfast, he would be so much better as a character and even side MC.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

I agree with you and also remember that the Logan/Ellie line will split into 3 and somehow Sophia is involved so perhaps Logan does pressure Ellie into having sex or Ellie lets slip that she is a virgin and Logan tells everybody.
A lobotomy would probably help the brother to be not so crude or too clumsy in his approach or a baseball ball to the head may knock some sense into him,as 90%of the time he has not got a clue stumbles blindly a round.

For people who aren't on the Ellie/incest/lesbian path (a.ka. the boring Good Wife path), then she probably will lose her virginity to Logan since I guess Sophia isn't doing much to discourage it and Ellie hasn't gone down the lesbian path with Julia and also isn't having her "reconnecting" side story with Dylan. But for those on the Ellie/lesbian/incest path with the Dylan side story, I think that either Logan's pressure will be too much for her and she'll break things off with him or he'll prove himself to not be right for her by either blabbing about her virginity or not being kind to her about it causing them to break up.

Yes, Dylan is an idiot and it's probably too much to hope that he turns it all around in a few short in-game days such that he shows a level of maturity and caring for his sister that makes her want to jump his bones, but I think that line will be significant and I'd like to hope it refers to Dylan.

I also believe that Ellie will lose her virginity with either Sophia (using a dildo.. a strap-on looks too much for two newcomers in the lesbian world) or Dylan (if the event when he fixed her computer was really the beginning of the path that will take them to the double incest we mentioned a few days ago, and it would require an active/leading role of Sophia there).

Whilst I'm sure it would meet the specifications of "something special and with the right one" if she did it with Sophia first, I'd really like to see it be with Dylan. Seeing the evolution of their relationship from antagonistic to lovingly sexual would be great and I think it's more powerful than her and Sophia doing it for Ellie's first time. It would be a good way to end this side story too (which I believe is supposed to have about 8 events and so far we've had 1) and I don't think Sophia needs to play any active role in it either as it could be even better if she were to see them but not stop them because by that point she's done a lot more with each of them and is maybe even somewhat pleased to see them doing it.

 

[Kodek]

Only if they were just teasing each other. But if that were the case, then it doesn't explain why in some cases still, Ellie shows her dislike for Dylan when talking to Sophia. While it's only for the boarding school route, in the last update Ellie specifically comments on how she's enjoying the peace and quiet with Dylan not being around.

That's why I still believe that the bonus storyline isn't about setting Dylan up with Ellie, but explaining what he did that was so abhorrent for her to dislike him so much. And that her going to him to fix her computer is just to show that by showing a little skin, how desperate he is and how easily someone can manipulate him.

Yeah, i feel the same everytime i see Ellie and Dylan interacting. There's too much bad feeling involved to be simply dislike without motivation.

But i still would prefer if they just kind of... ignored each others existence instead of this dislikeness or had some fun banter now and then.

 

[Hlextor]

And that her going to him to fix her computer is just to show that by showing a little skin, how desperate he is and how easily someone can manipulate him.

Better play the event again before you talk such crap.

 

[Kodek]

Better play the event again before you talk such crap.

It's both Dylan acting smart instead of horny once in a while and getting closer to his sister and Ellie using her body to tease him and get what she wanted. Either that or Ellie is portrayed totally different from the rest of the game.

I really don't see any of this crap you said.