VN Ren'Py A Wife and Mother [P2 v0.225 + P1 v0.152] [Lust & Passion]

[Alley_Cat]

Better play the event again before you talk such crap.

"Again"? What makes you think I have played that far into the Dylan route to have even played it once? Everything I know about the Dylan route has come directly from the code (like that the only kiss from Sophia so far was insidious), what people have shown with screencaps, or direct quotes from L&P.

So until someone can show me say a quote from L&P that says the bonus storyline is about setting Dylan up with Ellie, I will stand by the evidence. And so far all I've seen is that the storyline is about Dylan and Ellie's relationship.

 

[Old Dog]

"Again"? What makes you think I have played that far into the Dylan route to have even played it once? Everything I know about the Dylan route has come directly from the code (like that the only kiss from Sophia so far was insidious), what people have shown with screencaps, or direct quotes from L&P.

So until someone can show me say a quote from L&P that says the bonus storyline is about setting Dylan up with Ellie, I will stand by the evidence. And so far all I've seen is that the storyline is about Dylan and Ellie's relationship.

Nope you are spot on Alley_Cat

 

[Hlextor]

"Again"? What makes you think I have played that far into the Dylan route to have even played it once? Everything I know about the Dylan route has come directly from the code (like that the only kiss from Sophia so far was insidious), what people have shown with screencaps, or direct quotes from L&P.

So until someone can show me say a quote from L&P that says the bonus storyline is about setting Dylan up with Ellie, I will stand by the evidence. And so far all I've seen is that the storyline is about Dylan and Ellie's relationship.

Say!? What kind of nerd are you? You're supposed to look at the pictures and not the codes? Or do you jerk off to your codes?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

The BaDIK thread is as scary as ever. Too many theories all together and most make sense.

Also, i think that in the next Ellie/Dylan event we are probably going to see where it's going, maybe we are going to have options between friendship and romance (I hope).

But i still don't know how that event fit in the game since is some kind of side story yet and should not have too big of an impact on the main story (i don't know L&P comments on that, if someone knows, please kindly tell me~).
If it's indeed not intended to have a big impact, then i think Ellie's vcard is still safe. If it's made to be more impactful, then yes, it's possible to see Dylan getting there.

And yes, if L&P painted Dylan as he did in the bikini show or the bed breakfast, he would be so much better as a character and even side MC.

This is just my own guess, I don't know if this is the reason for it, but I get the feeling it is a side event to show Dylan and Ellie getting closer. It triggers when Ellie sees Dylan naked on Day 4 if Sophia forgets to lock the bathroom door and then pranks him with the viagra laced burger, so they're set on this path to put aside their differences and be better siblings to one another which I think could easily lead to more intimate, sexual developments given the right circumstances and situations and that this is the point, or at least players will be able to choose if it goes that far.

So I think there's plenty of reason to assume/hope that the Dylan/Ellie side event may lead to this, especially given the events that trigger it, the key will be Dylan not being an idiot which does seem like a high bar to clear.

 

[Old Dog]

This is just my own guess, I don't know if this is the reason for it, but I get the feeling it is a side event to show Dylan and Ellie getting closer. It triggers when Ellie sees Dylan naked on Day 4 if Sophia forgets to lock the bathroom door and then pranks him with the viagra laced burger, so they're set on this path to put aside their differences and be better siblings to one another which I think could easily lead to more intimate, sexual developments given the right circumstances and situations and that this is the point, or at least players will be able to choose if it goes that far.

So I think there's plenty of reason to assume/hope that the Dylan/Ellie side event may lead to this, especially given the events that trigger it, the key will be Dylan not being an idiot which does seem like a high bar to clear.

Sorry Holy Bacchus but I do have some problems with your theory.
You are correct on the Day 4 event and how this could/will bring them to be better siblings to each other but sex with the pygmy I don't see it,and it is not because I think he is an idiot,but I just don't see Ellie/Dylan getting it on.

 

[nexer]

Can't believe it. Are they drooling? Go Tiger

 

[Old Dog]

Can't believe it. Are they drooling? Go Tiger
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Sophia watching her son kinky

 

[nexer]

Patricia will eat something sooner or later

 

[Old Dog]

Patricia will eat something sooner or later
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The horse riding event will be her chance with Sophia

 

[Alley_Cat]

Sorry Holy Bacchus but I do have some problems with your theory.
You are correct on the Day 4 event and how this could/will bring them to be better siblings to each other but sex with the pygmy I don't see it,and it is not because I think he is an idiot,but I just don't see Ellie/Dylan getting it on.

If anything, Ellie seeing Dylan naked is more likely to scare her away, seeing as her dildo is gathering dust because of its size.

 

[Old Dog]

If anything, Ellie seeing Dylan naked is more likely to scare her away, seeing as her dildo is gathering dust because of its size.

Yea if only his brain matched his dick size he might get someplace

 

[hzjujk]

I'm amused, but don't understand the argument that has arisen here, whether or not Dylan is fucking Elli.
Everyone seems to protect his darling here and defends his wishes as the story should go on down to the blood.
Yes, I would prefer if Dylan doesn't have sex with Elli. But as I have already written, a friendly relationship
is absolutely necessary. Dylan has to accept Elli's relationship with her mother and vice versa.
And that doesn't work if both behave like dogs and cats.
Sophia would never allow her children to fall apart completely because of their sexual desires. The way to
prefer either of the two is closed in my opinion. For me that means all future events with Dylan and Elli only
serve this goal. At least that's how I would write the story. Because it would have an emotional logic.
Both have to recognize that they are into the same woman, and if they want to be successful, and not blow
everything that is important to them, it takes accentance and maybe even cooperation. If there is sex between
the two on this route, I have no problem with it.
But I would consider the story between the two of them necessary and L&P has surprised me a few times.

 

[Alley_Cat]

The horse riding event will be her chance with Sophia

There's also the Museum event the night before. Which makes me curious how L&P will structure the event considering we know that Jason and Haru wont play a significant part.

Oh, and concerning the horse-riding event on playable day 15, it might be poignant to point out that L&P will be introducing yet another new character with Patricia's friend Zoe, which may just be for this event.

 

[sept0342]

L&P said he was going to start the next update today, right?

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Sorry Holy Bacchus but I do have some problems with your theory.
You are correct on the Day 4 event and how this could/will bring them to be better siblings to each other but sex with the pygmy I don't see it,and it is not because I think he is an idiot,but I just don't see Ellie/Dylan getting it on.

I don't see why not. If things are going to escalate between Sophia and Ellie, and Sophia and Dylan, why not Dylan and Ellie too? There's nothing that can't be achieved with a bit of creative writing and having there be some situations, circumstances, moments, etc, that push this along. There's honestly plenty of ways to make this work and I think it will happen eventually.

If anything, Ellie seeing Dylan naked is more likely to scare her away, seeing as her dildo is gathering dust because of its size.

It's not necessarily just the size of her previous boyfriends and the trepidation she has because of it that has made her turn them down, there's also the issue of trust. She may have liked these guys, but she may not have felt she can trust them to not go too far and not hurt her in the process of having sex, like if she were to ask them to stop because she was uncomfortable, she may not have felt that they would and this was part of her fears, that she wanted her first time to be good and she was worried it wouldn't be.

With family, there's generally an inherent level of built-in trust you have with them, and whilst there are some crack in that with Dylan and Ellie, repairing that and Dylan stepping up a little bit to prove himself better in her eyes, could give her that feeling that this is someone she knows she can trust for this. This side event is also likely to build some sexual tension between them to aid in that because she whilst she might be apprehensive about being with a guy with a big dick, it doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't want it, so she might actually like what Dylan's packing.

 

[Old Dog]

I'm amused, but don't understand the argument that has arisen here, whether or not Dylan is fucking Elli.
Everyone seems to protect his darling here and defends his wishes as the story should go on down to the blood.
Yes, I would prefer if Dylan doesn't have sex with Elli. But as I have already written, a friendly relationship
is absolutely necessary. Dylan has to accept Elli's relationship with her mother and vice versa.
And that doesn't work if both behave like dogs and cats.
Sophia would never allow her children to fall apart completely because of their sexual desires. The way to
prefer either of the two is closed in my opinion. For me that means all future events with Dylan and Elli only
serve this goal. At least that's how I would write the story. Because it would have an emotional logic.
Both have to recognize that they are into the same woman, and if they want to be successful, and not blow
everything that is important to them, it takes accentance and maybe even cooperation. If there is sex between
the two on this route, I have no problem with it.
But I would consider the story between the two of them necessary and L&P has surprised me a few times.

There is no argument whether or not they will fuck as I don't see it but I have no evidence to prove or disprove this theory.
Also I don't think that there is enough evidence in the game to say that they will.
Sure Dylan got Ellie to beg for help in fixing her laptop but that was payback for past deeds so at the end of the event Dylan had a smug look on his face because he got one over on Ellie.
Ellie is into smart older boys/Dylan is younger
Until I see credible proof in the game I doubt that they will have a sexual relationship

 

[Old Dog]

I don't see why not. If things are going to escalate between Sophia and Ellie, and Sophia and Dylan, why not Dylan and Ellie too? There's nothing that can't be achieved with a bit of creative writing and having there be some situations, circumstances, moments, etc, that push this along. There's honestly plenty of ways to make this work and I think it will happen eventually.

With family, there's generally an inherent level of built-in trust you have with them, and whilst there are some crack in that with Dylan and Ellie, repairing that and Dylan stepping up a little bit to prove himself better in her eyes, could give her that feeling that this is someone she knows she can trust for this. This side event is also likely to build some sexual tension between them to aid in that because she whilst she might be apprehensive about being with a guy with a big dick, it doesn't necessarily mean she doesn't want it, so she might actually like what Dylan's packing.

Yes some creative writing could create the Dylan/Ellie scene but so far we have not seen this and very very little if any evidence suggest it will happen.

 

[Old Dog]

There's also the Museum event the night before. Which makes me curious how L&P will structure the event considering we know that Jason and Haru wont play a significant part.

Oh, and concerning the horse-riding event on playable day 15, it might be poignant to point out that L&P will be introducing yet another new character with Patricia's friend Zoe, which may just be for this event.

Sophia may witness Patricia's antics or vice versa so I guess it will be more corruption points and maybe some lesbian points as well and that would leed nicely to the horse riding event,will Ellie see Patricia having fun with Sophia or will Julia tag along and they split up.

 

[Alley_Cat]

There is no argument whether or not they will fuck as I don't see it but I have no evidence to prove or disprove this theory.
Also I don't think that there is enough evidence in the game to say that they will.
Sure Dylan got Ellie to beg for help in fixing her laptop but that was payback for past deeds so at the end of the event Dylan had a smug look on his face because he got one over on Ellie.
Ellie is into smart older boys/Dylan is younger
Until I see credible proof in the game I doubt that they will have a sexual relationship

There is also the fact that we know the bonus storyline will have had its culmination before playable day 16. With playable day 15 only being the horse-riding event, and that the Dylan/Ellie event in v.15 is very small, that means that there only 2 days left for anything significant to occur between them to repair their relationship, let alone for Ellie to do a complete 180 in her sexual preferences.

 

[Holy Bacchus]

Yes some creative writing could create the Dylan/Ellie scene but so far we have not seen this and very very little if any evidence suggest it will happen.

We are still only on playable day 12 of 30 and have had just 1 of, I believe, 4 or 5 events on this Dylan/Ellie side story, so there is a long way to go and more than enough time to build something between them in a way that works and makes sense (hopefully moreso than Dylan's dumbass blackmail shit).

I honestly do think it will lead to that just as I believe that there will be action between all sorts of different combinations of the family members (Liam excluded); Sophia/Ellie, Sophia/Dylan, Sophia/Patricia, Ellie/Dylan, Ellie/Patricia, Dylan/Patricia, Sophia/Ellie/Dylan, Sophia/Ellie/Patricia, Sophia/Dylan/Patricia, Sophia/Ellie/Dylan/Patricia.

Sophia may witness Patricia's antics or vice versa so I guess it will be more corruption points and maybe some lesbian points as well and that would leed nicely to the horse riding event.

Them going off alone to some secluded spot for some sisterly "brokebacking" would be very nice.